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Why is it that there is such a lack of nice apps for WinMo? I love my phone, but i always want something new. A few of my mates have iPhones and some of the apps are amazing, and some more mates have Magic's and the G1. Even Android which is new OS has loads of apps. There must be a reason?
It's so frustrating!! I thought of switching the operating system to Andriod but the Andriod they have now is not perfect for Xperia. I really do not understand whats wrong with Winmo!!
its because its from the 80s
are You guys serious?? there's like sh.. loads of apps 4 winmo. are You looking for some particular app or You are moaning in general? like what important prog do You need? maybe someone in here will care to help...
oh my god...
to think of it there are two websites that can help u..i dont no for sure but just maybe ul find what ur looking for
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rotastrain said:
to think of it there are two websites that can help u..i dont no for sure but just maybe ul find what ur looking for
xda developers
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ROFL nice one ...
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ROFL nice one ...
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Was thinking the same thing!
LMao. I was like is there another OS called WinMo? cause Windows Mobile has an a$$load of apps, Im afraid Im gonna fry my Xperia the way I install and uninstall apps
I think what they are suffering from is "crappy site" syndrome.
Whilst XDA is great, the websites selling WinMo software are uniformly awful. Mainly when you google something you get a crap load of 'link' sites the eventualy lead back to Handango etc.
The reason iphone. Android etc seem to have good apps is their app stores which make finding and getting apps incredibly easy.
We just have to hope that Windows Marketplace will be a success, and weed out the 'dross' that clogs up the winmo scene (Not to mention the overpricing)
Microsoft reports more than 18.000 apps for WM.
And I can imagine that a lot more goes un-noticed...
How is that not enough?!?!?
What do you need to do with your PDA?
I sold my home PC, my PDA do all that I need when at home!
As #10 mentioned, there is certainly no shortage of apps but it's just very annoying to have to find them thanks to an absence of a centralized app store. To find apps you want with any efficiency basically requires the use of a PC for WinMo, which is needlessly annoying what with ActiveSync's nonsense and whatnot.
Basically i mean such things as decent games. As in ones that have been thought out and with nice clean graphics and maybe some quirky ones. I like playing games when im bored and i can never find decent ones, or ones as good as the iPhone or Android. Are there some decent games out there for WinMo or not? Ones as good as the iPhone or Android? I think deep down some agreement lies within you all. If not you must know something i dont?!
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Basically i mean such things as decent games. As in ones that have been thought out and with nice clean graphics and maybe some quirky ones. I like playing games when im bored and i can never find decent ones, or ones as good as the iPhone or Android. Are there some decent games out there for WinMo or not? Ones as good as the iPhone or Android? I think deep down some agreement lies within you all. If not you must know something i dont?!
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Yes and No....the problem with the X1 is the WVGA resolution. The majority of the current games use vga/wqvga etc. and so there are not really alot of games that support our resolution natively.
If you wan't a glimpse of what's possible install XTRACT a game specifically designed for the X1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=497425&highlight=games
and below is another link to games that run in WVGA resolution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=506420&highlight=games
Oh, i didnt realise the res was the problem. I have the Xtract game, which is pretty cool. Ill check out the link though.
lack of apps?? are u mad. lol. this site alone boasts 6700 winmo apps!
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/
i think its more a case of having a proper look, the apple apps are there all handed out on a plate. whereas the winmobile platform has more people writing their own stuff so its more spread out on the internet.
Lack of apps LMAO.... there is a certain bias on this bs.
I think he is right. Maybe there a lot of apps for Windows Mobile, but what about their quality and compatibily? A lot of them doesn't work on the Xperia cause it's WVGA and even more look like they are from the 80s.
iPhone has a lot of **** apps too, but all of them looking stylish and da compatible.
Only SpB is bringing very nice apps for Windows Mobile!
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I think he is right. Maybe there a lot of apps for Windows Mobile, but what about their quality and compatibily? A lot of them doesn't work on the Xperia cause it's WVGA and even more look like they are from the 80s.
iPhone has a lot of **** apps too, but all of them looking stylish and da compatible.
Only SpB is bringing very nice apps for Windows Mobile!
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Windows Mobile has the BEST alarm software (Connective Tools Alarm Master), BEST music player (Pocket Player), BEST automated software such as wi-fi scheduling (PhoneWeaver), BEST and RELIABLE backup software (Sprite Backup), BEST interface software (WisBar Advance), BEST maintenance (SKTools).
Of course, not only do I think these apps are better than their Symbian, and Iphone counterparts, I think they are best of the best. I am sorry about GA-Alarm I personally prefer alarm master. I have never owned a google OS yet.
And the rest of the other applications are just as good as Windows Mobile but except are made for other system but really there is no difference.
to F-styla: You don't know much about '80s, do Ya? whatever... all I can say is that every single app that I was using on my kaiser is back with me on xperia. vast majority of applications works on xperia, the only problem is when app or game (let's be honest, moaners are talking mainly about games) doesn't have graphics scalling, read: it's not future proof.
well now that windows mobile 7 is coming out there wont be anything left fot the old phones (softwares -rom develpment - ect...) i was extremely happy when i heard its coming but i was extremly pissed when i found out it will have a diffrent installing system no more cabs . i have a a blue angel (imate pda2k) and this is why i hate the new windows 7
what do u guys think
Im the same mate, seems very iphoney,.......... can see everyone switching to android or buying windows 7 phones and installing 6.5 on them (like people where doing with xp when vista came out)
8 posts and already pissed? And the no cab installation thing is nowhere confirmed so far!
I think the lack of backwards compatability is overblown. It was time for MS to change their entire structure and get back to developing software...which HTC has been doing for them for the last few years. Here's a longer posting I did on it earlier: http://www.mobilitydigest.com/windows-phone-7-is-leap-forward/
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Windows Embedded CE 6.0 features a completely redesigned kernel, which supports over 32,768 processes, up from 32 process support of the previous versions. Each process receives 2GB of virtual address space, up from 32MB.
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So what? It doesn't matter one bit how many trillions of processes the OS supports, when third party developers are not allowed to make their applications run in the background!
The way things are going with Windows Mobile 7, I can't see it lasting as a platform.
I understand why Microsoft wants to do this. The real money is in the marketplace, like how Apple is doing it. The problem is, the iPhone is a success not just for it's features or UI, but because it's an Apple product.
For example, there's been way better players then iPod, but people bought it for the status symbol it gives. Just like the iPhone.
If Windows Phone 7 isn't as open as Windows Mobile 6.5, then my next phone will certainly be based on Android. I expect a lot of other people to make that decision as well.
You can't expect iPhone or Windows Phone 7 to succeed? No Flash support, not allowing emulators, and complete control of what software you can install.
Dont panic guys, we still dont know much about the application side of WP7 ... Wait till next month March 15 for the MIX10.
Me personally, I dont mind "rebooting" myself to use WP7 new OS and app scheme.
I have no problem with semi-multitasking or no-cab as long as it could get the job done and has tons of very good useful applications.
Android is nice, but being in Europe, I feel pain to not having Nexus ... to not having Google Voice ... I feel not complete. I know, I will get that eventually (Nexus, but dont know about Google Voice), but if I have to wait, then it would be long due before I got WP7.
Yes true, we also dont know if there are some US specific services for WP7, I hope not.
Apple? No, I dont like it ... it is too common nowadays ... I am Windows and Linux user
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The way things are going with Windows Mobile 7, I can't see it lasting as a platform.
I understand why Microsoft wants to do this. The real money is in the marketplace, like how Apple is doing it. The problem is, the iPhone is a success not just for it's features or UI, but because it's an Apple product.
For example, there's been way better players then iPod, but people bought it for the status symbol it gives. Just like the iPhone.
If Windows Phone 7 isn't as open as Windows Mobile 6.5, then my next phone will certainly be based on Android. I expect a lot of other people to make that decision as well.
You can't expect iPhone or Windows Phone 7 to succeed? No Flash support, not allowing emulators, and complete control of what software you can install.
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I am also afraid that Microsoft will take away to many of our beloved freedoms (open for everybody to write programs, multi-tasking, customizing...). I have always looked at WM as a pocket computer rather then a simple smartphone. I fear this will not be the case with Windows Phone 7. There are just too many things threatening the mentioned freedom.
For example the leaked documents state that to use full multi-tasking you will have to let Microsoft approve your program. Given the history of MS I dont think they are going to approve anything without charging a fee. And why would someone even think that any of the many developers that have contributed freeware for Windows Mobile will be willing to pay for beeing allowed to use certain features of Windows Phone for their programs?
But sure we dont know everything yet. Lets just hope that future unveilings will bring some positive facts to daylight.
Well in those leaked docs, it looks like you'll only be able to install apps through the marketplace. I can understand how that will help developers and their security.
But if those developers are still charging ~$14.00 for programs, then that makes it totally pointless. I will not dish out that kind of money for a game that will finish in one sitting. No matter how great it is.
If they implement this, I hope they think it through. 0.99c releases, and if they allow cab installation (which I do hope), then downloading the cab from developers website would could cost the normal ~$14.00 instead, because it's a fact that it will be broadcast everywhere.
Marketplace is way too overpriced. Fix that, and you'll have a winner.
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i dont get it ..
i dont understand what the problem is.. WinMo7 will be great for microsoft..
if everyone thinks multitasking and the ability to install cabs are so important.. iphones wouldnt be as popular.. and NOT everyone buys an iphone for the STATUS symbol.. it's popular because it has a lot of useful APPs.. and the UI is logical and useful.. unlike the current WinMo 6.5
I am currently using a diamond 2 and if WinMo doesnt have all these non finger friendly feathers i wouldnt have to tweak it. So i dont see such a major issue with WinMo7 not being as customizable, because if it's functional it will be FINE.
Another issue i see people having is not being able to multitask.. it's not like there isnt any at all... and plus what type of multitasking are you doing on your phone anyways...? it's not a computer, as long as you can listen to music when your doing other things isnt that fine..? and plus if i were to choose between UI speed to multitasking .. SPEED would win in a land slide... it's no use to have multitasking ability when your phone isnt moving...
i think the general population will welcome this change in WinMo7. It will be finger friendly, have more useful apps, and better UI.. this alone will win back the most important sector to microsoft.. which is the GENERAL public...
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i dont understand what the problem is.. WinMo7 will be great for microsoft..
if everyone thinks multitasking and the ability to install cabs are so important.. iphones wouldnt be as popular.. and NOT everyone buys an iphone for the STATUS symbol.. it's popular because it has a lot of useful APPs.. and the UI is logical and useful.. unlike the current WinMo 6.5
I am currently using a diamond 2 and if WinMo doesnt have all these non finger friendly feathers i wouldnt have to tweak it. So i dont see such a major issue with WinMo7 not being as customizable, because if it's functional it will be FINE.
Another issue i see people having is not being able to multitask.. it's not like there isnt any at all... and plus what type of multitasking are you doing on your phone anyways...? it's not a computer, as long as you can listen to music when your doing other things isnt that fine..? and plus if i were to choose between UI speed to multitasking .. SPEED would win in a land slide... it's no use to have multitasking ability when your phone isnt moving...
i think the general population will welcome this change in WinMo7. It will be finger friendly, have more useful apps, and better UI.. this alone will win back the most important sector to microsoft.. which is the GENERAL public...
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the only thing that i want is: porting wp 7 or android 2.xx to touch pro.
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i dont understand what the problem is.. WinMo7 will be great for microsoft..
if everyone thinks multitasking and the ability to install cabs are so important.. iphones wouldnt be as popular.. and NOT everyone buys an iphone for the STATUS symbol.. it's popular because it has a lot of useful APPs.. and the UI is logical and useful.. unlike the current WinMo 6.5
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See this is part of the problem here, most of the iPhone users got it for a few reasons like because they wanted a smart phone but, didn't know better, it's a cool looking apple product or their friend has or talked about one. The iPhone had coolness factor, so that is why people grabbed them. A good chunk(most) didn't have a clue about a smartphone. I am diehard WM but, I'll admit the iPhone has some coolness factor and features I have been dreaming about for WM for a long time....
Now we move to Windows Mobile, there is tons of people who have these phones, why ? Because we can do what we want with them, tons of 3rd party apps, we can install them as we want to, on our time, taking after the model of a Windows PC. It allows us to make them our phones, not what the provider gives you and you have to deal with it.
The MarketPlace was a great idea and WM has needed it for a while. It also needs a way to manually install apps, like WM has always done to make everyone happy. It wants to hit the user market and the corporate market, it will need both. This will make both people happy, the people like us, who want to play, do what we want and the people who want a easy to use phone with the marketplace to get all there apps.
In this model, if the marketplace is kept up (always getting new apps), a newbie user would NEVER have to even install a cab for the entire time of owning a phone. This will allow a developer to be able to sell an app on media or on their own website for users to download and install as well as the marketplace.
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i think the general population will welcome this change in WinMo7. It will be finger friendly, have more useful apps, and better UI.. this alone will win back the most important sector to microsoft.. which is the GENERAL public...
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Yes, WM needed a major overhaul, no question about it. Most experts think this is it, if they don't make it with the next version, they should get out of the game. The finger friendly thing is HUGE now, the iPhone showed it and they started some of it in 6.5, something that has been needed for a long time.
They have a good chance with this to bring the public back in, let's see if they can but, lets not abandon the people, like us, who made WM what it is today (we on here and PPG make good % of WM owners).
Time will tell and it will be interesting to see what happens here...I do look forward to the change but, still want it all, like it is now but, a lot better...
Dukenukemx said:
The way things are going with Windows Mobile 7, I can't see it lasting as a platform.
I understand why Microsoft wants to do this. The real money is in the marketplace, like how Apple is doing it. The problem is, the iPhone is a success not just for it's features or UI, but because it's an Apple product.
For example, there's been way better players then iPod, but people bought it for the status symbol it gives. Just like the iPhone.
If Windows Phone 7 isn't as open as Windows Mobile 6.5, then my next phone will certainly be based on Android. I expect a lot of other people to make that decision as well.
You can't expect iPhone or Windows Phone 7 to succeed? No Flash support, not allowing emulators, and complete control of what software you can install.
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Except the iPhone is already a success! I think Windows Phone 7 takes the best of the iPhone and the best from Windows Mobile.
You don't seriously think Microsoft should have left Windows Mobile in the same path as 6.5 do you? or even Photon? It would have left Microsoft stagnant with the same marketshare at best.
Remember, the iPhone hasn't stolen from Windows Mobile (its market has actually stayed the same to a slight growth) but the iPhone has brought so many more people into the smartphone market.
It also amusing that you judge so quickly when nothing has been said about development except for leaked documents that do infer multitasking. Perhaps you can spread more judgement after MIX next month.
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Windows Mobile, there is tons of people who have these phones
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If this was true, you wouldn't be saying
DavidinCT said:
Yes, WM needed a major overhaul, no question about it. Most experts think this is it, if they don't make it with the next version, they should get out of the game.
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Microsoft's market share was plummeting, yet everyone here on XDA acts like it was all good and now is when it will fail after their "freedom" is removed
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i have a a blue angel (imate pda2k) and this is why i hate the new windows 7
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I don't understand that sentence at all
why microsoft will continue with wm6.5
is they not satisfy for wp7s or the partner ( HTC, SAMSUNG, ...) not like it?
does WP7S made only for microsoft phones? same strategy of iphone?
like they say spain restaurant not have all the data on the net, who have?
i think WP7 not finished yet but they announce it early.
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why microsoft will continue with wm6.5
is they not satisfy for wp7s or the partner ( HTC, SAMSUNG, ...) not like it?
does WP7S made only for microsoft phones? same strategy of iphone?
like they say spain restaurant not have all the data on the net, who have?
i think WP7 not finished yet but they announce it early.
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2 pathes, 6.5 is for business business users (Pure business & no fun) while 7 is for having fun and doing SOME work done.
No iphone strategy (vertical strategy as steve ballmer said) "We sell software to people who make devices".
This is a good time in MWC10 (FEB) to announce WP7 so they can announce the Development tools in MIX10 (MAR) and release the stuff to develop with VS2010 (APR)
jaxouk said:
Im the same mate, seems very iphoney,.......... can see everyone switching to android or buying windows 7 phones and installing 6.5 on them (like people where doing with xp when vista came out)
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I think you need to get over it if Microsoft didn't make this move, Windows Phones would be stuck in the same state they are now: old, retarded, slow and inconsistent.
This change is NEEDED and people like you are the folks that'll hold it back. Buy a new phone.
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If this was true, you wouldn't be saying
Microsoft's market share was plummeting, yet everyone here on XDA acts like it was all good and now is when it will fail after their "freedom" is removed
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WRONG. They needed to make this move. The iPhone hasn't got much freedom and look at the HUGE adoption there.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=5475&tag=content;col1
As HD2 owner I am dissapointed.
Again!!
But its just a spokeperson.. so we can't track the source... wich makes it a rumor..
Who cares what someone says at microsoft......they keep saying "No No No" like Amy winehouse....... HD2 can support it with EASE.
The reason why they say "No" is that microsoft has promised manufactuers that NEW OS equals Great Sales.....extacly how they did with the VISTA series !!!
What ever I say to microsoft......they like it or not....WE WILL get WP7S on out HD2 phones.....I love XDA !
One of the main reasons I got the HD2 was that I thought it would be upgradeable... I'm still hoping that it'll happen, one way or another.
I'm passing on the HD2 just beacuse of this reason I got my TP2 and when the HD2 came out I said I would just wait to see what WM7 is going to look like before I upgrade. I'm glad I waited. Guess you guys should have done the same. No one nows if porting to the HD2 will be possible yet so I wouldn't get too excited.
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The reason why they say "No" is that microsoft has promised manufactuers that NEW OS equals Great Sales.....extacly how they did with the VISTA series !!!
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Existing hardware on desktops is upgradeable and Microsoft even gave free updates for systems purchased within the months leading up to release.
It's funny how they still leave the door slightly open with their statement.
The first device that has WP7 on it (as long as it doesn't suck) I'll be buying. My Touch Pro is due for retirement.
if you have read the article you will clearly see that the Microsoft spokesperson said that they currently dont have plans to update the HD2...key word being currently. but WP7 wont be out until around christmas....so curruntly they may not have have an update, but by release time they might. sometimes u have to read in between the lines...its something they are deffinatley working on, because if they werent, they could just give a straight answer instead of beating around the bush.
as a owner of an hd2 I would he dissapointed but I am really positive about this for simple reasons. i may be wrong about this but still ill say my opinion .
as a lot of ppl have seen on YouTube there is a video of someone from Adobe with hd2 with flash 10.1 and a (new kind of IE) which according to me is available on wp7s (according to MS a renewed browser with pinch to zoom )
BTW the home button of hd2 can somehow be reprogramed as the search button.
ok on YouTube you see the start menu but you don't see him opening the browser.
as i said I may be wrong but its my opinion.
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the Microsoft spokesperson said that they currently dont have plans to update the HD2...key word being currently
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No, the key word is "don't".
Yeah when someone says they currently don't have any plans it means they aren't going to do it unless it has a major effect on their business if they don't.
really?
Then that means all the 6.X device can not update to windows phone 7 severies !
Hope some oone could tans 7 to 6.X.
I am waiting
If nothing could do to refresh i will think about android or other os.........
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I'm passing on the HD2 just beacuse of this reason I got my TP2 and when the HD2 came out I said I would just wait to see what WM7 is going to look like before I upgrade. I'm glad I waited. Guess you guys should have done the same. No one nows if porting to the HD2 will be possible yet so I wouldn't get too excited.
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Not really... I'm really annoyed that I, (probably) won't be able to get the new OS on my new 'phone, but let's not forget that the HD2 is still one kick-ass mobile, and I am still seriously impressed with it.
The only thing that annoys me is the amount of people who, on seeing my phone for the first time, say "Ooh, is that an iPhone"
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as a owner of an hd2 I would he dissapointed but I am really positive about this for simple reasons. i may be wrong about this but still ill say my opinion .
as a lot of ppl have seen on YouTube there is a video of someone from Adobe with hd2 with flash 10.1 and a (new kind of IE) which according to me is available on wp7s (according to MS a renewed browser with pinch to zoom )
BTW the home button of hd2 can somehow be reprogramed as the search button.
ok on YouTube you see the start menu but you don't see him opening the browser.
as i said I may be wrong but its my opinion.
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Really have no idea what you're talking about, mate.
what a fail...and right before tmo usa will launch their touch hd2...i wonder how this will impact sales. I know I won't switch fully to tmo because of this and unless there's a beta on xda developers very soon, I will not go to touch hd2. I will wait
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what a fail...and right before tmo usa will launch their touch hd2...i wonder how this will impact sales. I know I won't switch fully to tmo because of this and unless there's a beta on xda developers very soon, I will not go to touch hd2. I will wait
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I'm definitely waiting. I was thinking about upgrading to HD2 but I'll just stick with my Touch Pro2 til the holidays.
I've wanted the HD2 from the second I put my eyes on it. It's everything I wanted in a phone minus the slide out keyboard, but the screen size made me willing to bypass that. Then I saw Windows Phone 7 and realized I wanted it on my HD2. Not being able to have it on the HD2 is surely making me reevalutate my future purchase of the tmo HD2 which is released on 3/24.
I may not get the phone at all and I really find that to be a sad thing for myself, HTC, Microsoft and TMobile USA.
Not a huge disappointment. I love the HD2 the way it is. WM 6.5 with HTC Sense does a very nice job in everything I need and use the phone for.
What I don't need is a closed OS with a lot of eyecandy (well, one can argue about that) and xbox integration. Microsoft can state "everything what ppl care about directly at the homescreen" as often as they want. But what I actually care about is efficiency on how I can use the phone. And having big colored blocks on the screen for every possible program/contact/bookmark/pictures/appointment etc. is neither very efficient, nor very effective ...
So glad I didn't wait
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Not a huge disappointment. I love the HD2 the way it is. WM 6.5 with HTC Sense does a very nice job in everything I need and use the phone for.
What I don't need is a closed OS with a lot of eyecandy (well, one can argue about that) and xbox integration. Microsoft can state "everything what ppl care about directly at the homescreen" as often as they want. But what I actually care about is efficiency on how I can use the phone. And having big colored blocks on the screen for every possible program/contact/bookmark/pictures/appointment etc. is neither very efficient, nor very effective ...
So glad I didn't wait
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Well... I should have waited for a good Android phone instead of the HD2.
I'm not at all interested in the dumb iPhone copycat OS that WP7S is. Good UI, but other than that, they've just copied Apple's bad bad policies (out of envy, I think).
I'm not going to adjust myself to an OS that doesn't multitask, doesn't let me install the stuff I want because of Marketplace censorship, doesn't let me manage my files on my own etc.
With Android, like WM6.5, I can have an OS that simply does what I want it to do. I don't have to adjust myself. That's how it should be.
Thus, the only regret I have is that I've not waited for a good Android phone, because WM6.5 is doomed and now nobody will develop anymore for it, whereas the quantity AND quality of the applications on Android has now surpassed Windows Mobile, and the OS itself is almost there.
I'm not sorry either... I change my phones every year - as flashy and useful and nice as they are, they don't last as long as $50 Nokia dumbphones did.
I use my HD2 very heavily and, apart from increased tear, this toy is much more important to me than a regular phone. As such, it absolutely needs to be the best toy around.
Also, the earlier I sell my phones, the more money I'll get.
I love it and enjoy using it for the most part, but by the end of the year I'm sure there will be devices available that I'll want more, and the love affair with HD2 will be pretty much a thing of the past.
Finally, even though I like what I see as regards to WP7, I'm not at all sure it will have the essential apps I need or that it will live up to the promise in its v.1 incarnation.
Android... I can't force myself to like either the OS or the phones carrying it. Yeah, they have multitasking and all, but I'm not buying a principle, I'm buying a phone.
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Android... I can't force myself to like either the OS or the phones carrying it. Yeah, they have multitasking and all, but I'm not buying a principle, I'm buying a phone.
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So Android buyers buy a principle?! Nonsense... they buy Android phones. Simple as that.
And of course, they buy them because they prefer them to other phones.
And of course, Android's features are reasons to prefer Android phones to other phones - and multitasking, for example, is one of them.
I don't like Google, I don't like Java... but if Google's OS is the only one to suit my needs, then I buy a Google phone. Because I'm not buying a principle (i.e. not Google or not Java), I am buying a phone (i.e. the phone that does what I need it to do).
I have a friend who just got a Droid unit and it seems like every day he comes up with what's considered some cool, neato app. He found a scanner program that will link up to a bargain price website, today he was showing me an app that will listen to music and find it on the web and give you all kinds of info on it.
I'm really not jealous of his droid, but it just got me wondering where all these things are for our Windows Mobile type phones. It would seem that since it's been out for years compared to the likes of Droid and Even the iPhone there would be more out there readily available. Or maybe I just don't know where to look.
I was wondering this myself...
Both of those apps you named you can find for windows mobile. The scanner app is called Barcoma and the music app is called Midomi . A quick search and you can find what your looking for 90% of the time!
Apps like "Weightbot or Ocarina" this is what I mean, I dont mind paying for apps like this, tough, I cant find it, only for iphone app store ofc... Grrr.
if it's apps you're looking for you're on the wrong platform. wm6.x has some, but the majority are not giong to look fancy and most like aren't available. iPhone is an app phone... i'd say android is inbetween iPhone and winmo... like the middle ground. But hey you can run android on a winmo phone now if you want and run android apps...
orlandojumpoff said:
if it's apps you're looking for you're on the wrong platform. wm6.x has some, but the majority are not giong to look fancy and most like aren't available. iPhone is an app phone... i'd say android is inbetween iPhone and winmo... like the middle ground. But hey you can run android on a winmo phone now if you want and run android apps...
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But I wonder why, is WM a bad platform for developers or what?
why?
most users of wm, also the developers, have passed the children age. they make more apps with actual usage, for making wm flaws less visible, and extending it's possibilities.
all these apps/games/programs you are telling about originate from iphone. users of it are pretty much lazy american couch potatos who like entertainment, and they like to pay for it. so motive is money. but in WM there is not a lot of money, didn't see anyone getting rich from WM apps. it's relatively small market of advanced users, but alot of kids who just see phone with big tochscreen were lured in, becouse they thougt it can play awesome games.... it can, but it doesn't pay off to companies to make them.
I understand what are you saying,
I think you being a bit unfair, just cause a software looks good does it mean it not good or don't have "actual usage"??
You should test Weightbot for example, it looks awesome and it's of great usage.
And as far as iphone been for lazy fat young people, are you for real man?
Seriously...
Now, sense you seem to be an expert in WM, I really would like your help if you have the time or the patience, and point me in the right direction?
Not all of us are born with full knowledge of everything...
I'm starting to love WB, but I really need content for it, and sense I'm no "coder or programer"
I need to start from somewhere.
Peace out.
Back just a few short years ago, there were alot of games and apps out there. My favorite still is Age of Empires. I used to play that on my Axim until the battery died, then I'd plug it in and keep going. There were magazines out there and websites that did more than show the latest and greatest hack or port for our WM Devices. It just seems now that unless you're looking to port Droid over or install someone elses WM OS onto your phone, there really isn't alot out there.
Back, when I first started using PDAs, I was able to find anything I wanted/needed for my device. Admittedly, after I'd gotten the programs I wanted and used, I stopped looking. Now that I have a newer device, I've discovered that many, if not most of the programs I used don't work well or at all with the newer OS. Now I'm starting all over again looking for programs to do what I want to with my Smartphone. The only upside to this for me is that now I have 2 Axim x51v's to play with and learn how to port and play with. If it had phone capabilities, I'd still be using it....
Like iPhone, Windows Phone 7 Won’t Fully Multitask
Read More http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/03/windows-phone-7-multitasking/#ixzz0iSYY3asp
Because it's new, pretty and expensive.
But most importantly, it's because we can't have it yet.
No Htc Sense, no dice... then i'll raher use android... hopefully we'll be able to dual boot WM 6.5 and android soon =D
by the sound of it... WP7 is about as locked down as iphone... and then why shouldent i get an iphone? its way more established than WP7 (waaay more apps)
Nah... i'll stick with Wm 6.5 with HTC Sense...
The fun thing is (if the rumors are true) that apple are starting to open the iphone more and more, while MS wants to start back at the iphone's first days
Why would we like Windows Phone 7? we don't
Why?
It looks ugly.
Doesn't support any apps we use now.
Doesn't support sd cards.
Doesn't do multi-task.
It looks ugly.
Doesn't do copy / paste.
Doesn't fully support multi-task (won't be ready at release)
Doesn't do 3D correctly (won't be ready at release)
It looks ugly.
It's the first step towards mobile cloud computing (my sh1t is mine, it should be on my stuff, not in big brother*s wallet). *(corporate edition)
It's a sorry attempt at fixing what they did wrong the past years by making it like something Apple has. (sound familiar?)
Only apps from their store allowed, dictating what you do with your device and how you do it.
Software can be removed from your device at will.
Doesn't allow customizing.
It looks ugly.
Tell me, why is wp7s a good thing? It makes me f*ck1ng puke. Wouldn't be wourthy of my piss if it was on fire.
wp7s on my HD2? You don't curse in church either do you?
Because we are CONSUMERS. We spend money. That's why there's Netflix and Zune pass and iTune and eBooks and App Store..etc. It appeals to people who like/love those features.
MS wants to get more money and so they target the people who like to use services that will generate them money.
I don't particularly want wp7; looks stupid and as locked down as the iphone.
I want the developers that it's trying to poach from 6.5
i like it because of its future support for games directx9 ,flash , apps ,and more
No C&P... I'm happy with my HD2 without WPS7.
Windows Mobile 7 is the Vista mobile version. Crap from start to finish. MS will back away from it within a year.
Handheld games don't appeal to me.
I'm rarely bored enough to play games while I'm on the move.
But then I don't play games as much as I did a couple of years ago...maybe I'm just getting older and losing the grasp on videogames?
I just want WM6.5.5 with Zune and Xbox integration and that would be perfect for me
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Handheld games don't appeal to me.
I'm rarely bored enough to play games while I'm on the move.
But then I don't play games as much as I did a couple of years ago...maybe I'm just getting older and losing the grasp on videogames?
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Same. We're getting old. I usually find myself reading the latest news or articles on the browser.. or a book. The HD2 will be my bigger screen to read on.
I wish people would put Windows Phone 7 crap in the correct forum. I'm getting pretty bored of thread after thread of it, when it's totally unrelated to the HD2, the REAL topic of this forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=590
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I've asked a mod to move it to the correct place.
zSpinner said:
It looks ugly.
Doesn't support any apps we use now.
Doesn't support sd cards.
Doesn't do multi-task.
It looks ugly.
Doesn't do copy / paste.
Doesn't fully support multi-task (won't be ready at release)
Doesn't do 3D correctly (won't be ready at release)
It looks ugly.
It's the first step towards mobile cloud computing (my sh1t is mine, it should be on my stuff, not in big brother*s wallet). *(corporate edition)
It's a sorry attempt at fixing what they did wrong the past years by making it like something Apple has. (sound familiar?)
Only apps from their store allowed, dictating what you do with your device and how you do it.
Software can be removed from your device at will.
Doesn't allow customizing.
It looks ugly.
Tell me, why is wp7s a good thing? It makes me f*ck1ng puke. Wouldn't be wourthy of my piss if it was on fire.
wp7s on my HD2? You don't curse in church either do you?
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I whole heartedly agree... except for the church, that can burn along with wp7 in the same fire
what about the photon build?
What i would love to see now is the original windows mobile 7 build on an HD2. Perhaps this will be windows 7 classic, but with all the restrictions that have came with WPS7 i want to see how far we can take windows mobile.
Dont really care.Its just amazingly UGLY. Havnt read many articles about it,but the screenshots that i have seen,give it away(that its going to be sh*t!)
We cannot like it! We hated iPhone and WP7S is is a clone of it.
Think it confirmed I'll be switching to android instead of another wm device....HTC Desire me thinks