Does anyone else's memory seem to disappear after the phone has been on for awhile?? If so is there any fixes??
corygillespie said:
Does anyone else's memory seem to disappear after the phone has been on for awhile?? If so is there any fixes??
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Start\My Tools\Free Memory or you can use CeleTask or SKTools, you will not regane all the RAM so a soft re-set once in a while will gain it back.
M$ phones tend to have leaks no matter what ROM you use.
memory leak.
Stylez is right, I use rick's v24 and I use the celetask to free up memory after closing apps with task mamager just to keep the mem. fresh, but also after a while you start getting less and less free memory back so a soft reset gets you back to the most memory like stylez said.
Try decreasing your page pool with the method described by stylez in their ROM thread... Currently the low amount of RAM is the only thing that sucks about the excalibur as a phone I'm glad I got the Touch Pro where that's no longer an issue at all.
i had the same problem with the rose rom. Even closing all tasks and freeing memory didn't help after a few hours....it was either reboot or I couldn't open programs. I eventually went back to the other rom I had..... I like the Rose rom though....very clean...very simple. Just couldn't do with the memory problem.
Well the problem with the high memory utilization of the Rose ROMs, guys, is that all the applications in the Rose ROMs were intended for the S740 "Rose" device which has 256Megs of RAM. Our Excaliburs only have 64... While on a S740 this wouldnt be a problem at all, it is for the Excaliburs. My advice is to kill all the apps you dont need running the background, including all extra processes, like the htc weather service... etc
NRG, is the htc weather application removed from the superlite rom of yours? that ROM looks good, might have better battery life than regular rose roms. thanks.
It's not removed, but it can be easily disabled with a registry edit
Or you can always reboot your phone if you tend to have a decline in memory... this is what I always do and it has worked out for me just fine...
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I have built a ROM using Pandora kitchen. When I start I have 20MB of free memory.
I was getting problems with programs not starting due to lack of memory. When i checked the free program memory it was down to 2MB.
I had no programs running and use 'x' button to clsoe all programs not minimize them. On a soft reset I am back to 20MB.
Where is all the memory being used and is there a way to stop it?
No surprise there... It's windows!
I think it is because of WM6 not releasing memory properly or in a timely manner. I use Pandora 9.5/3.62.3 and I still see it myself. What I do is that I run Oxios Hibernate or Oxios CloseApps every now and then. Best that I could get back is up to around 15-18mb after a full day's usage. Just do a reboot every now and then.
Oxios is quite good. It allows me to reboot less often now. I've included the cab file below. Hope this helps!
Quakie
lochindaal said:
I have built a ROM using Pandora kitchen. When I start I have 20MB of free memory.
I was getting problems with programs not starting due to lack of memory. When i checked the free program memory it was down to 2MB.
I had no programs running and use 'x' button to clsoe all programs not minimize them. On a soft reset I am back to 20MB.
Where is all the memory being used and is there a way to stop it?
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Addendum...
By the way, Hibernate frees memory without closing applications or disturbing the internal state of running programs. CloseApps frees memory by closing applications that can be closed and by GCing as much as possible.
Quakie
Quakie said:
I think it is because of WM6 not releasing memory properly or in a timely manner. I use Pandora 9.5/3.62.3 and I still see it myself. What I do is that I run Oxios Hibernate or Oxios CloseApps every now and then. Best that I could get back is up to around 15-18mb after a full day's usage. Just do a reboot every now and then.
Oxios is quite good. It allows me to reboot less often now. I've included the cab file below. Hope this helps!
Quakie
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More on Memory leak here.
I tried Oxios and it isn't helping.
I get such fast memory leakage I get about 1/2 day use before a reboot.
Is this caused by the base ROM or by one of the apps I'm loading with Pandora.
By doing a trial and error install with various programs on the same ROM could I find an app causing me the problem?
I think its because of the ROM, maybe do a hard reset or try other ROMs. I have never used pandora, but the ROMS I have used and using now, has about 28 on cold boot. It usually stays around 23 - 24 with limited use.
Also, check the page pool size. I prefer 4MB as I run GPS program which needs a lot of free mem.
memleak
lochindaal said:
I get such fast memory leakage I get about 1/2 day use before a reboot.
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when applications does not free malloc'd memory and terminates, WM does not do any clean up (at least not immideately).
so if you have a badly written application you are using quite often, free memory drains fast.
to simulate this behaviour you can execute the attached applicaton.
it allocates 1mb of memory displays a senseless messagebox ad then it terminates (it does not free the malloced memory). when you started the application ~20times your memory is no longer available and you have to restart your phone.
Using the NRG 1.4 ROM and loving it! Also, the built-in CeleTask util is awesome!!! Still, I would love to have the memory management happen more automatically. Is this possible? Anyone know how to schedule a nightly "close all tasks" on the phone, or a "free memory" task that runs a few times per day? Can I assign the CeleTask "free memory" task to a speed dial or shortcut?
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Using the NRG 1.4 ROM and loving it! Also, the built-in CeleTask util is awesome!!! Still, I would love to have the memory management happen more automatically. Is this possible? Anyone know how to schedule a nightly "close all tasks" on the phone, or a "free memory" task that runs a few times per day? Can I assign the CeleTask "free memory" task to a speed dial or shortcut?
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Two choices:
1. Write a Mortscript (requires learning how to write scripts, not all that hard)
2. install SKTools, it has an automatic cleaning option that closes tasks, cleans temp files and the like.
Thanks, Bupahs. I wasn't aware of SKTools, but it appears that they have a tool called FreeUP RAM service that is available for free with their "lite" suite.
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?m_downloads.html#lite
I'll check that out!
on the RAM note, my NRG rose rom 1.7 by ricky and styles seems to leak memory while its on sometimes and im always forced to restart when i havent ran anything besides starting it up. sometimes this can happen in less than an hour! help?
renegadedj said:
on the RAM note, my NRG rose rom 1.7 by ricky and styles seems to leak memory while its on sometimes and im always forced to restart when i havent ran anything besides starting it up. sometimes this can happen in less than an hour! help?
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I think you will find something else to it as still only a handful of users state this, i personally have not been affected by a leak needing a reset in less than an hour, same as many users who are still in contact with myself and are happy users, i know there has been reports and also am aware that the Rose has more available memory so will use more since it's ported, but since i play music and have weather diaplayed i can't say that you can state this to be a leak in the ROM, 2000-3000 uers of 1.7 alone and still only a handfull of users complaining of this issue.
Not at all stateing you and users some other don't have issues, just stating that i think there is more too it than meets the eye.
I recently upgraded from a Fuze to a Tilt 2 (AT&T). I am running the stock AT&T Tilt 2 Rom. I have applied the hot fixes on their site though.
It is the same processor as the Fuze yet it is much more responsive, I love that. But I have a question. Even when I am not running anything (other then the TouchFlo interface) it is hovering around 80% of program memory usage, and there is only ~40mb free.
The fuze had the same amount of memory, and in the stock rom it was only using ~40% of program memory.
I am monitoring this after reset, so I am not looking at memory leak.
Is this normal for everybody? Any idea what is running in the background to waste so much memory? The task manager (windows default) does not show anything else running.
HKLM\Software\HTC\ResProxy
"ShareMemSize"
Change this value to zero
I found this in this link if you want more info on it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588764
enahs_ said:
I recently upgraded from a Fuze to a Tilt 2 (AT&T). I am running the stock AT&T Tilt 2 Rom. I have applied the hot fixes on their site though.
It is the same processor as the Fuze yet it is much more responsive, I love that. But I have a question. Even when I am not running anything (other then the TouchFlo interface) it is hovering around 80% of program memory usage, and there is only ~40mb free.
The fuze had the same amount of memory, and in the stock rom it was only using ~40% of program memory.
I am monitoring this after reset, so I am not looking at memory leak.
Is this normal for everybody? Any idea what is running in the background to waste so much memory? The task manager (windows default) does not show anything else running.
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There's a couple of settings common to all models of the TouchPro2/Rhodium (which the Tilt2 is one of) that help to reduce the base memory footprint of running WM and Sense (aka TouchFLO3D). Cabs for them are attached below (SSK TP2 Dynamic Resource Proxy and NoPushInternet).
There's also a number of resident apps/programs that AT&T packs into their stock rom that are unnecessary and can be cleaned out. They won't make much difference in your available RAM (unless any of them get started and are running in the background), but cleaning them out can free up a significant amount of storage memory. There's a utility that's been built to help you clear them off, here's the link with info on it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper
EDIT: The first cab I attached does the same thing as the registry entry vnb28 mentions above
The biggest memory saver is disabling Opera from running in the background on start up. This uses 8-10 megs or so it appears on my phone. There are lots or registry edits and cabs out there that will do this.
InRBigness said:
The biggest memory saver is disabling Opera from running in the background on start up. This uses 8-10 megs or so it appears on my phone. There are lots or registry edits and cabs out there that will do this.
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I was under the impression that was the net effect of the NoPushInternet cab I've been using (attached in my previous post)...I haven't used any other cabs for that purpose, and it doesn't load for me anymore.
Thanks guys! You are brilliant! That free'd up a bunch of memory (Share Memory trick). I am going to leave Opera running in BG for now because I use it a lot, but will remove it if need be later. I am staying around 50% usage right now, which should be plenty of free program memory.
And thanks sirphunkee, I was wanting to remove some of that crap (like stupid game demos) but could not. I tried to deleting the large exes but that was not allowed either.
My system is running great now thanks to help from these forums!
If there was only a way to get weather (no fancy animation) on home screen of Touchflo 2.1 !
enahs_ said:
Thanks guys! You are brilliant! That free'd up a bunch of memory (Share Memory trick). I am going to leave Opera running in BG for now because I use it a lot, but will remove it if need be later. I am staying around 50% usage right now, which should be plenty of free program memory.
And thanks sirphunkee, I was wanting to remove some of that crap (like stupid game demos) but could not. I tried to deleting the large exes but that was not allowed either.
My system is running great now thanks to help from these forums!
If there was only a way to get weather (no fancy animation) on home screen of Touchflo 2.1 !
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Glad to help You might want to also throw a thanks over to pyromosh who created crud scraper: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper
so im running Jackos OldSchool WM 6.1 ROM for the sake of RAM, running 120mb on fresh start but what i noticed is after listening to music for about 2 hours and leaving the phone sit for an hour its at 109mb without any programs running....whats the cause of this?
i noticed with 6.5 ROMs as well
unsure of the reason. but.
why not try cleanRAM app?
free. and cleans up ram space.
Hey XERO, just to be sure, you're saying that over that time the amount of available memory drops by about 11MB, correct?
It sounds to me like the music you're listening to was loaded in RAM but didn't get unloaded when you closed the player maybe? I know that music eats RAM in that way...might just be best to try the cleanram sweep like sh4d0w suggested
Clean ram like like the other responses say. you can schedule it to run at a schedule or you can run it when you feel you need to. you can get it here>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514333
thats still decent memory left. clean ram will wrk, but its always going to fluctuate. even when not in use. as long as it dont drop below 50mb, u good..lol ull be clean ramming all day trying to get it to stay at the startup ram mem left...lol some other ones that might help is Clear temp or advanced task manager. advanced task manager will show u every process running. u might be able to find the culprit there.
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Hey, I'm running the stock rom on a At&T Tilt 2, most of the time I am using TouchFlo3D, once in awhile I'll switch to SPB Pocket Plus (Demo Version).
I notice when using TouchFlo3D I start with ~70MB of Ram after a soft-reset, but as I go throughout the day this takes a Very Fast dive, just using the program for messaging, etc.
When using SPB Pocket Plus (Demo version) I start with ~90MB and it keeps it up for much longer throughout the day...no need to soft-reset all day to bring it back up.
I know this would happen with my Samsung Epix running WM 6.1...but never to the extent of the Tilt 2, barely anything would fall off, I would never need to soft-reset just to get my Ram back throughout my day.
I always check my task manager too, making sure nothing stays running in the background.
Is this normal with the TouchFlo3D interface?
Anyway to free up more?
Thanks
it's a common issue with windows mobile phone to have these leaky ram. The stock rom seems to have more issue in my opinion. I think mail and also windows media will never fully close themself after you launch them.
Stock rom uses a bit more memory because of some bloatware that often got loaded. Though the latest rom (not officially out on att or htc site) seems to have less issue with slownees but still has leaky ram.
My opinion is that if you are concerned about hte ram leaky or slowness, try one of the custom roms, they often works better, faster, and took out most of the bloatware.
I had the tilt2 for about 6 months, I noticed some memory leak, but no concern, since I never had an issue with it, but since a few days ago I noticed that after turning the phone ON I have 35mb storage ram and 80mb program ram free but I can see the program memory going slowly down to 40mb and sometimes to 24mb in 20-30 min. Without ruinning any app!
What's running there? that I can't see.
I have stock At&t ROM and the 8gb MicroSD with as much I as can, pictures, videos google, bing, music, recordings etc. QUESTIONS
How I delete some of the at&t garbage with out using a custum ROM? (I don't know too much to do that)
Is there an app to manage the stolen ram?
I have over 1000 contacts, and gmail,live, hotmail and msn emails, can I move that to the microSD? how?
I would appreciate your help.
Pinguino1 said:
I had the tilt2 for about 6 months, I noticed some memory leak, but no concern, since I never had an issue with it, but since a few days ago I noticed that after turning the phone ON I have 35mb storage ram and 80mb program ram free but I can see the program memory going slowly down to 40mb and sometimes to 24mb in 20-30 min. Without ruinning any app!
What's running there? that I can't see.
I have stock At&t ROM and the 8gb MicroSD with as much I as can, pictures, videos google, bing, music, recordings etc. QUESTIONS
How I delete some of the at&t garbage with out using a custum ROM? (I don't know too much to do that)
Is there an app to manage the stolen ram?
I have over 1000 contacts, and gmail,live, hotmail and msn emails, can I move that to the microSD? how?
I would appreciate your help.
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I have a lot of contacts...but keep them all on the sim memory, I only copy over my main ppl that I talk with daily, so I can have their pics and set ringtones for them individually...a start to help with memory.
I have an 8GB card too...my memory isn't that low...the ram goes down throughout the day...faster than my last windows phone....try installing apps on the storage card verses the main memory...what I do when I can...have about 120mb of memory left on the device.
Download Crudscraper to remove nearly all traces of bloat AT&T added.
See my sig for results.
Consider investing in Mem Maid to keep on top of maintanence.
No program can remove things stored in ROM (including CrudScraper, which basically only deletes the shortcuts from the Start menu). The only way to actually get rid of the bloatware is with a custom ROM.
TF3D is a known memory hog with a lot of leakage. The new OEM ROM's version of Sense is just as bad. That's the price you pay for pretty home screens. The free CleanRAM is a good way to reclaim RAM during the day, but soft resetting is still the best way.
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TF3D is a known memory hog with a lot of leakage.
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Not true.
Miami_Son said:
No program can remove things stored in ROM (including CrudScraper, which basically only deletes the shortcuts from the Start menu). The only way to actually get rid of the bloatware is with a custom ROM.
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There's 226.05 MB of RAM used for Storage and 187.07 MB RAM used for Programs. ANYTHING within either CAN be deleted to free up space. Some badly decided removals (most) will cripple Windows, some sit taking up huge amounts of RAM. Games and music preloaded in particular.
Removing anything via Crudscraper (nothing vital) IS GONE. Watch the Storage RAM available increases to validate.
ONLY a hard reset will make Crudscraped items reappear. Otherwise they ARE erased from current OS.
Use freeware Treesize to breakout every RAM MB into tree-view directory. The "bloat" IS in user's control done carefully or just auto-magically running Crudscraper.
ROM is NOT same as RAM.
bmhome1 said:
ROM is NOT same as RAM.
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If you know this, then why are you so wrong about everything else? Nothing in ROM can be deleted manually. It may disappear (as in the case of Manila mods that overwrite files, for instance), but it isn't actually deleted. The OS and some of the carrier addons are in ROM. Crud Scraper does not delete anything in ROM. All it does is delete the shortcuts (*.lnk files) and any parts of the program that are in Storage Memory, but the parts that are in ROM remain taking up space. The only way to remove something from ROM is to install a custom ROM that has had those items removed. Much of the stuff users want to get rid of, like the AT$T crap, is in ROM and can't be deleted.
RAM! RAM! RAM! is the topic. NOT ROM (READ-ONLY)! One CAN increase available RAM deleting what's been previously written to it. Period.
Crudscraper reclaims 40-50MB if you actually read ANYTHING about it.