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I've owned a couple of these HTC phones, formerly a Cingular/Siemens SX66, and also a small one by Audiovox...can't remember model but WM based, now got a Tmobile Dash.
All based on Windows Mobile, and my question is: HTC PHONES DO THEY REALLY WORK???
In the Forums I read nothing but problems, my experience's not good either. My first SX66 was defective, the replace froze way too often/needed reset (WM froze, CONNECTIVITY was POOR as it was on the Audiovox (I threw it against the wall and smashed to pieces) and STILL IS on the Dash..maybe not as BAD
I want to install a new language support on the Dash....doesn't seem to be possible
I "upgraded" to WM6 but I think I actually lost rather than gained in terms of versatility features and feel...
I'm thinkin of gettin a TyTn....but is it worth the aggravations and headaches, since I'm going to need to unlock and most likely extra language support for text messaging.....Is it possible to Add???
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THANKS
Sounds like you'd be happier with a iPhone...
Probably I'd be happier....
with an iPhone...if it was a 3rd Gen but still lags behind
BTW in the list I forgot to include the Treo 750....another flop...I've had it for some time and it's a waste
Just out of curiousity, what are you expecting from your phone? So far the dash has handled a lot of what I threw at it.
And yes, HTC phones work...at least as well as WM6 lets them.
I would recommend a title change for this thread. The question "do they really work" is a really stupid one.
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I've owned a couple of these HTC phones, formerly a Cingular/Siemens SX66, and also a small one by Audiovox...can't remember model but WM based, now got a Tmobile Dash.
All based on Windows Mobile, and my question is: HTC PHONES DO THEY REALLY WORK???
In the Forums I read nothing but problems, my experience's not good either. My first SX66 was defective, the replace froze way too often/needed reset (WM froze, CONNECTIVITY was POOR as it was on the Audiovox (I threw it against the wall and smashed to pieces) and STILL IS on the Dash..maybe not as BAD
I want to install a new language support on the Dash....doesn't seem to be possible
I "upgraded" to WM6 but I think I actually lost rather than gained in terms of versatility features and feel...
I'm thinkin of gettin a TyTn....but is it worth the aggravations and headaches, since I'm going to need to unlock and most likely extra language support for text messaging.....Is it possible to Add???
INPUT/OPINIONS WELCOME
THANKS
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Of course you're only going to hear about problems on forums, that's what they're there for: to find answers to your problems. People don't normally spend time praising something they own, there's no need for it.
As far as HTC goes, I have been pretty happy with my Dash. After getting all the nuisances tweaked, I can't picture the phone being much better.
PS - **** the iPhone. Worst device I have ever used.
PPS - I agree with changing the title of this thread. It is silly.
perhaps this is more the OP's speed?
I wouldn't get a Tytn.
I was so happy changing from a tytn to the Excalibur. There's still problems with the stability of WM professional vs WM standard.
Standard seems more robust and usable as a phone.
Also 3G on the tytn although is nice drains the battery.
I used to change phones every six months. The tytn only lasted 3 months before I was fedup with it. The excalibur is a phone which might actually be used for the full 2 year contract.
Well can't understand what's silly about the title, but the question is: 1) As with the "normal" Windows...xp-mill...etc" the OS suckes!!!
Microsoft spends so much money on developing but still SUCKS! keeps freezing and it's very unstable...I had so many fights with my GF because she couldn't hear me while using a "Blue Angel"..."this only happens with your phone...etc"
as for the connection quality these HTC if don't have a GOOD connection you're very likely to be stuck with an UNUSABLE piece of hardware.
I hate when the person next to me 's talking madly and I can't even connect.
Last but not LEAST, I think companies try too hard to limit/direct people's free choice! If there's a contract in force leave free choice how I want to use MY phone, therefore they ought to be HIGHLY CUSTOMIZEABLE...
In other words they only do a GREAT JOB @ screwing you around.
If someone 's satisfied with that, well...their choice...I know I'm not
Best Wishes
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HTC PHONES DO THEY REALLY WORK???
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Nope.
This is why there is a dedicated website, forum, community, etc revolving around them.
I'm a huge fan of the Elmo walkie talkie myself.
-Mc
Choose something non-HTC for yourself, this forum will thank you
ReverseImage said:
Well can't understand what's silly about the title, but the question is: 1) As with the "normal" Windows...xp-mill...etc" the OS suckes!!!
Microsoft spends so much money on developing but still SUCKS! keeps freezing and it's very unstable...I had so many fights with my GF because she couldn't hear me while using a "Blue Angel"..."this only happens with your phone...etc"
as for the connection quality these HTC if don't have a GOOD connection you're very likely to be stuck with an UNUSABLE piece of hardware.
I hate when the person next to me 's talking madly and I can't even connect.
Last but not LEAST, I think companies try too hard to limit/direct people's free choice! If there's a contract in force leave free choice how I want to use MY phone, therefore they ought to be HIGHLY CUSTOMIZEABLE...
In other words they only do a GREAT JOB @ screwing you around.
If someone 's satisfied with that, well...their choice...I know I'm not
Best Wishes
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In Short: Yes they do work
But I have had a HTC Blue Angel (SX66), Faraday (2125), Tornado (sp5m), Wizard (8125), Tytn (8525), Excalibur (dash), Treo 750, Star Trek (8500), Vox (s710), Cavalier (c730). All phone have some issues, but I can tell you seriously they work better than any other phone on the market. And you shouldnt be worried that people complain about them you should be excited that these phones give you the freedom to log onto a website like this in order to solve problems instead of just complain.
I had my cavalier for a month before all of a sudden I just upgraded it with full youtube integration because of this website.
Be happy you have a phone that gives you the ultimate ability to do everything.
Plus HTC knows how to make a phone teh sexy
ReverseImage said:
Well can't understand what's silly about the title, but the question is: 1) As with the "normal" Windows...xp-mill...etc" the OS suckes!!!
Microsoft spends so much money on developing but still SUCKS! keeps freezing and it's very unstable...I had so many fights with my GF because she couldn't hear me while using a "Blue Angel"..."this only happens with your phone...etc"
as for the connection quality these HTC if don't have a GOOD connection you're very likely to be stuck with an UNUSABLE piece of hardware.
I hate when the person next to me 's talking madly and I can't even connect.
Last but not LEAST, I think companies try too hard to limit/direct people's free choice! If there's a contract in force leave free choice how I want to use MY phone, therefore they ought to be HIGHLY CUSTOMIZEABLE...
In other words they only do a GREAT JOB @ screwing you around.
If someone 's satisfied with that, well...their choice...I know I'm not
Best Wishes
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If your computer freezes or gets blue screens it's 90% of the time your hardware that fails. And if you are so unhappy about windows xp then I suggest you use linux..see what you can make of that.
As far as i'm consurned the Windows mobile phones are quite customizeable as long as you have some sense of what you are doing.
IGNORANCE IS BLISS!
How much will we wait until htc will public android for are S620 (if it will ever come out).
This is a call to all:
IS THERE ANYBODY WITH SKILLS THAT WOULD LIKE TO START WORKING ON ANDROID S620
I know its not easy but a lot of you have great programming skill, and I'm 100% that something will come out.
You're not going to get it from HTC if it even comes to the Excalibur. HTC have pledged not to "recycle" old Windows Mobile phones for Android. They're planning on issuing different phones with different hardware specs for each respective OS.
besides android is solely based on touch screen and i just dont see how it will work on a non touch screen device which specs are like 2yrs old...im sorry to say but the s620, while is/was a great phone (i have one), technology wise its out of date..most phones that are coming out now(well the good ones)will mostly be touch screen..they are the way of the future and im just waiting to update to the htc touch pro/ raphael
now a phone like that should be more customizable than how the s620 was!!
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besides android is solely based on touch screen and i just dont see how it will work on a non touch screen device which specs are like 2yrs old...im sorry to say but the s620, while is/was a great phone (i have one), technology wise its out of date..most phones that are coming out now(well the good ones)will mostly be touch screen..they are the way of the future and im just waiting to update to the htc touch pro/ raphael
now a phone like that should be more customizable than how the s620 was!!
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Unless the device have a keyboard or keypad, i would never consider a device with on-screen dialer (even the one on iPhone didn't impress me).
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My buddy has a HTC Touch and I hate using it. Texting is such a pain with that onscreen keyboard.
Just my own personal bias, but I'd rather see things like openmoko and qtopia take center stage. Google has the corporate money behind it to put out yet another cash cow. The only difference between Windows Mobile and Android in terms of freedom is the company behind it. There will still be deals with carriers and manufacturers as well as measures in place to limit what you can do with your phone.
I don't understand how people even have phones running Android yet. Google's license agreement for downloading the SDK is so strict, you can't even install it on current hardware without incurring legal action.
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Just my own personal bias, but I'd rather see things like openmoko and qtopia take center stage. Google has the corporate money behind it to put out yet another cash cow. The only difference between Windows Mobile and Android in terms of freedom is the company behind it. There will still be deals with carriers and manufacturers as well as measures in place to limit what you can do with your phone.
I don't understand how people even have phones running Android yet. Google's license agreement for downloading the SDK is so strict, you can't even install it on current hardware without incurring legal action.
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I like the openmoko idea but its since forever that's on beta and its a year that they sold out the beta ones. Will the openmoko OS work on S620?
I don't think that android will be available only for touch smartphones, plus I'm sure someone is going customize it for its own phone and he is going to share it.
Your right about the google corp. and restriction even with android will have them, but I think it will be much easier to go around them. I'm looking forward to by the sgh i780 (even if I prefer HTC) they said its going to be 1st phone with android I wonder what price it will hava, I heard that phones with android are going to cost much less but I'm worried about this. How much do I have to wait to see that phone in stores or internet, they said it would of been out by mid jun but still no trace on the web.
I'm doubting anything is going to be ported to the S620. The Xanadux project has been working on Linux-based software for HTC phones for years, and nothing has come out for the Excalibur yet.
I'm not looking to buy an Android phone. Some members of the Android community have said that, even this phone with a free OS, will cost almost the initial price of the iphone. I don't have one of those either
I an a tech junkie, computer geek through and through, but I feel like a complete n00b when I come on here. If you can help, I have a few questions that I think you can answer, or at least point me in the right direction.
First, I haven't dealt with WM since...I think 5.0 that I had on my HTC 8125 back in 2006 so please cut me some slack. I am going to buy a new phone but ATT has sh*t for good smart phones and unlocked HTC phones are expensive so I'll probably go with a chinese smartphone. I have 2 lined up, the first is a clone of the Touch Cruise called HTY T4242+ and the second is the HTC P3470 clone called Flagship P660+. Can you give me a hint which is better? I get the specs but I'm wondering if anyone has actually dealt with actual hardware of these 2 clones before.
And second, I'm looking to upgrade one of the phones to 6.5 but I have no idea how, is there any step by step tut out there that could help me or could someone throw one together? I have a Zune HD, and the Zune 4.0 software that runs on it is basically a simplified version of the main screen of 6.5 and I love it, but looking forward to Manila.
I may not be a guru, but I will say this: It's extremely unlikely that a chinese clone will get an official upgrade to 6.5, and being that there is probably not a huge enthusiast community for either of those, I'd say that an unoffical upgrade is out of the question. Not to mention that the methods detailed on this forum are only valid for HTC manufactured devices. I'd say that if you want a phone with 6.5, you'll have to at least purchase a clone that comes with 6.5, or buy a device with a large community of developers.
On another note, I'm on AT&T, and I really like the AT&T Tilt2. It comes with 6.5, and has tons of cooked ROMs and support here at XDA-Developers. Also, rumor has it that the high spec Sony XPERIA X10, running android, will make it to AT&T sometime next year. Hope that helps
Helped some, thanks. One comes with 6.5 and that sounds good right now. Do you know of any clone that has a good dev following? I can't afford a 400 dollar unlocked phone, ATT has a bogus concept that you have to buy the data plan to even get a smart phone.
I do hope they get an Android phone though, I hope someone comes up with a way to replace Windows Mobile with Android to it's very roots, not just an app but to be able to swap OSes through replacing files on actual hardware.
A local guy here is selling his used but excellent condition AllTel TP2 for $150. 1. Can AllTell TP2 be unlocked and used on Sprint network? I have SERO.
2. What's the best Android ROM for TP2 out right now? What's not working?
3. I have Myn's ROM on my touch (vogue) and love it very much. Will Android TP2 give me much better phone than the one I have?
Sorry I haven't had much time to research this. I need to make decision to buy quickly before he sells it to someone else. Please help. Thanks a lot!! Hoping to join TP2 community soon.
Android is not completely working on the TP2, not flawlessly .. so if you want to buy this phone so you can run Android flawlessly on it, than you should reconsider
I used an Touch Vogue for a few weeks before getting a TP2. I ran Android on the Vogue, in my quest to make the device halfway modern and usable. I don't miss Android at all on the TP2, because HTC has done a good enough job providing their own interface layer on top of WM 6.5. It's not perfect, but it's good enough that I don't feel like I need to hack the device to death, like I did with the Vogue (ended up with WM 6.5 and TouchFlo 2D on the Vogue, which was okay, but the hardware sucked too bad). I've been following Android development on the TP2, and it's way too alpha right now for real day to day use. Last I checked they didn't have data going yet. They're making good progress, but it will probably be months before it's really stable and robust.
As far as the hardware goes, the TP2 is so far ahead of the Vogue it's insane. Granted, there is still better hardware than the TP2, but you'll feel like you went from the 1990s to 2000s when you upgrade. It's hard to believe the Vogue was released within months of the iPhone, because the comparison is laughable.
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I am what you would call a "fanBoy" of WinMo and have been for many years, but for the right reasons. It has provided me with the tools I need and understand with minimal to no trouble, though it may be due to the fact I actually know what my devices are for and can do.
For years now, I have been waiting to replace my HTC Diamond with a WinMo device from either HTC or SE for my current carrier Sprint, we all know the latter isn't happening. The Diamond serve me as much as it was going to, so it was necessary to replace it and since no HD2 or WinMo EVO like device came to sprint I had to suck it up and get the EVO with Android.
Don't get me wrong, Android is a pretty powerful OS in its own right, but not my cup of tea, too "stupid proof" if you asked me, just like IOS... what I need is a WinMo device, of course Windows Phone 7 device, on Sprint. I know Sprint will eventually have one if not late this year early next, but I already have the EVO and came across this article SO I COULD NOT POST A LINK (Google HTC Oboe) and saw an EVO-like CDMA HTC phone. This brings me to the my questions: Do you think replacing Android with workable ROMs of WinMo/WP7 will ever be possible (I know a dual boot on Android device has been proposed yet nowhere to be found), and if so where in XDA could I suggest or request this to be started by some of the developers? I mean the Oboe seems pretty close to the EVO, I am just not sure if the internal components are so compatible when it comes to running a different OS.
Moderators, please excuse my "n00bidity" and my English (not my first lang.), but while I try to be respectful and keep a decent online etiquette, some times I don't know what I am doing. I tried to find the best spot to talk about this idea and ask questions and this area seemed to be the most reasonable one... If there is a better spot, I don't mind it being moved there. I searched and couldn't come up with a conclusive answer so I hope that at least this question helps others asking it as well. Thanks.
Sure I would imagine its possible I mean almost anything is possible. The problem is I highly DOUBT any developer would waste their time porting WM to the EVO.
Its been asked many times before..here is just one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712599
Does this question get asked every other day...or is it just me?
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Does this question get asked every other day...or is it just me?
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i call troll. this is at least the 3rd thread ive seen.
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You can skip to the actual question below if you do not want to read.
I am what you would call a "fanBoy" of WinMo and have been for many years, but for the right reasons. It has provided me with the tools I need and understand with minimal to no trouble, though it may be due to the fact I actually know what my devices are for and can do.
For years now, I have been waiting to replace my HTC Diamond with a WinMo device from either HTC or SE for my current carrier Sprint, we all know the latter isn't happening. The Diamond serve me as much as it was going to, so it was necessary to replace it and since no HD2 or WinMo EVO like device came to sprint I had to suck it up and get the EVO with Android.
Don't get me wrong, Android is a pretty powerful OS in its own right, but not my cup of tea, too "stupid proof" if you asked me, just like IOS... what I need is a WinMo device, of course Windows Phone 7 device, on Sprint. I know Sprint will eventually have one if not late this year early next, but I already have the EVO and came across this article SO I COULD NOT POST A LINK (Google HTC Oboe) and saw an EVO-like CDMA HTC phone. This brings me to the my questions: Do you think replacing Android with workable ROMs of WinMo/WP7 will ever be possible (I know a dual boot on Android device has been proposed yet nowhere to be found), and if so where in XDA could I suggest or request this to be started by some of the developers? I mean the Oboe seems pretty close to the EVO, I am just not sure if the internal components are so compatible when it comes to running a different OS.
Moderators, please excuse my "n00bidity" and my English (not my first lang.), but while I try to be respectful and keep a decent online etiquette, some times I don't know what I am doing. I tried to find the best spot to talk about this idea and ask questions and this area seemed to be the most reasonable one... If there is a better spot, I don't mind it being moved there. I searched and couldn't come up with a conclusive answer so I hope that at least this question helps others asking it as well. Thanks.
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Why do we have at least one of these threads for every phone released. Short answer, no. Long answer, it is theoretically possible but nobody on here is going to head up a project to do this. We are Android "fanboys" and find it to be much better than WinMo. However, if you would be interested in doing this you would have to first modify the bootloader to allow it to even boot WinMo. After booting you would need to make sure all the drivers work with it. Since, unlike Android, WinMo is closed source this is near impossible.
just do me a favor, BUY my HD2 thats sitting in the dust since u love windows so much.
searching does you good.
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