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Hello,
I update my MDA pro to the new imate ROM but my emailaccount keep vanishing after a softreset has anyone any clue?
Thanx
same here
but on my device it was like this also before the upgrade?
which device dou you have, and which rom you had before upgrading to the jasjar rom?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=161019#161019
dont soft reset using a stilys. Use a program to allow flush the file bufferssss
yeah, thanks but.
i know that and honestly i still have to try it. BUT:
I just want to know WHY this happens, and WHY other users with the same ROM as mine is DONT have this problem.
And, if i incidentally do a Softreset or maybe take out the battery, i lose my account again! thats not a solution for me.
Anyways thanks for your hint . apreciate that.
can you confirm my thought about the battery? or maybe its REALLY losing the accounts just after a Stylus reset?
It hapened to me time ago.. Some programs, like outlook, dont flush their databases buffers each moment. So, if you create a new account, or delete some mails or sms (this actions modify the database files managed by outlook) and then you reset your pda using the stylus, many buffer may be not empty so you loose that information. When you reset your pda using a program (it uses a API funcion that allow the buffers to be flushed to their files) all the information is saved in disk and you wouldnt hava to loose anything.....
thnx
thats was a clear explanation, thank you.
Any ideas why this happens only on some devices, even if they have the same rom?
I ve repeated the test right now. I have sent a email to my account in gmail(this account is configured in my jasjar). I ve connected using UMTS an and i ve downloaded the mail. then a i ve soft reset using stylus. When the device has booted i have launched pocket outlook and the mail wasnt there. I ve downloaded the mail again and a i ve done soft reset using a program (handy meny). When the system has booted the mail was there. Conclusion: I supose Outlook use the api fuction "CeWriteRecordProps" to update or insert a new record in the outlook database and probably Windows Mobile 2005 uses a buffer policy to reduce the access to these databases. so, if windows hasnt written this records fisically to disk then you can lose some information if you reset using stylus. When you use a program to reset, windows informs to the device drivers that "sleep" is in progress and they have to save the unsaved information so the disk driver has a chance so save all.
I hope Microsoft change this policy soon.....
so you...
...think this happens on all HTC Universals?
I think it happens in all Windows Mobile 2005 devices....
ok, i´ll let you know in the next days...
...then i´ll receive some more universals. and also one of a freind of mine, who told me that he hasn´t got this problem. i don´t know if its true, but we will see...
I don't know.I ve repeteated this test with my jasjar and my himalaya(with magneto) with same results
i can confirm...
...your description to 100% !
with a "soft"-softreset everything is fine.
and i´ve found out why other devices semmed to do NOT have the problem. Those users setted up their account, and had serveral (100+) mails ond their pop-server. Poutlook took a few minutes tu download headers and part of the messages. in this time the "buffer" was "written back" to the mail-db.
So: I think that for now, all the WM5, or at least all UNIVERSALS got this problem. Some user just don´t realize it.
Now that we (well,i) now that it is not a problem of just my device, FOR NOW i think i can live with this solution. btw, i use Pocket Plus 3 as task manager and Softresetter.
thnx dherrero.
Thanx DHerrero
After your tip I used spb pocketplus 3.0 and the softreset works wonderfully!
Thanx for the workaround hope they'll fix it soon because pocketplus makes the system very slow.[/list]
strange....
With Pocketplus my system runs fast as always, no problems at all.
Pocketplus
Probably due too a combination of software then.
I'll work it out if you say its not due too SPB Pocketplus
Thanx
you re wellcome. There are many programs to soft-reset the device "softly" and thye dont brake the system.... For example Hany Menu and much more.. :lol:
Hello. I've checked the previous pages and didn't see anyone having the same question. That probably means i am the only one so dumb in here)))
Basically, last night i was playing with overclocking my XDA Orbit being insured that all the contacts are syncronized. At some point (273MHz) the device stopped responding so i had to soft reset it. Later i found that nothing got lost BUT my contact list with all the numbers. Next, I open Outlook and see that none of them were saved there. WTF is ActiveSync is doing then? And another problem is that i cannot use backup of my old WM2003 contact list because there is no such option as Backup/Restore in WM6. Any ideas? Please,HELP. I really need those numbers back...
dj NJoy said:
Hello. I've checked the previous pages and didn't see anyone having the same question. That probably means i am the only one so dumb in here)))
Basically, last night i was playing with overclocking my XDA Orbit being insured that all the contacts are syncronized. At some point (273MHz) the device stopped responding so i had to soft reset it. Later i found that nothing got lost BUT my contact list with all the numbers. Next, I open Outlook and see that none of them were saved there. WTF is ActiveSync is doing then? And another problem is that i cannot use backup of my old WM2003 contact list because there is no such option as Backup/Restore in WM6. Any ideas? Please,HELP. I really need those numbers back...
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The contacts in the Orbit are gone...
The contacts in the Outlook not sync'ed hence they too gone...
Cannot import 2003 backup into WM6 - different structure
Option 1 - if you have old outlook backup - you can re-import into new outlook file and they re-sync again
Option 2 - Manually enter all the numbers you remember
Option 3 - Nothing
Basically the fact is if you cannot see the contacts in the fone - they are gone! If you cannot see in outlook they are gone - only option is to get from another source!
You mentioned 2003 backup - what did you take the backup with? Maybe you can still read using the same software and try to retrieve the number - or use another 2003 model to import into it
The backup was taken using Backup/Restore feature of WM2003. But I really wonder now, WHY Microsoft decided not to include this option in WM6? If anything happens, you're properly f****d, like me now.
BTW, WM2003 Contact list backup can be accessed with Notepad, but the data looks a bit messy that way.
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The backup was taken using Backup/Restore feature of WM2003. But I really wonder now, WHY Microsoft decided not to include this option in WM6? If anything happens, you're properly f****d, like me now.
BTW, WM2003 Contact list backup can be accessed with Notepad, but the data looks a bit messy that way.
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Am not in the same situation...was letting you know your options....
Good luck with the retrieval...
don't take it personally, i meant "You" in general
I analyzed the chain of events and it seems like i found the root of the problem. It's was nothing to do with overclocking or the device itself. Its ActiveSync. As I usually don't use Outlook, the contact list there was always empty. And this blessed child of Microsoft instead of copying contacts from XDA to Outlook did it other way round thus erasing everything on the phone. Don't know what to do, laugh or cry, but it's so... so... ridicilous!
Thanx for your help anyway, much appreciated
Hi all,
I'm in serious trouble. I just used active sync 4.5 to sync my hermes to a new install of Outlook and have lost all my contacts.
Is there anything I can do to get these back? I'm using binky's verion 3.9 and version .25c of pocket cm..
I have no backup of the contacts, unfortunately... Am I in serious trouble and lost the lot?
Mmmm. This happpened to me a long time ago. One of the causes is that the date of your new outlook (date of your system) was younger than the date of what was on your PDA. The system thinks that you erased all in outlook and makes the modifications on the PDA accordingly. Moreover, most of the time the sync is in the mode "replacing the elements on the PDA". You end with all your contacts lost.
In my case, when i sync a new flash on the PDA, i take care that the date of the PDA is older than the date of my PC (just change the "year" for ex.) So outlook will update my PDA and nothing is lost. Moreover, when I do that, i copy the "outlook" directory (in user/yourname/appdata/local/microsoft. You have to enable the seeing of hidden files) somewhere. So i have at least a backup.
I believe you cannot recover your data unless you had a backup. But i am not an expert
Hope this helps
Are you sure your contacts isn't in the "deleted" folder in Outlook?
This is why everybody always says. Watch what you are doing and take a backup. When it was asking you what to do. You should have choose to combine items on both devices.
The only way now is to check in the deleted folder of outlook if you have not already reinstalled office. Or the only way is to check if you have any contacts left in your sim.
Or better to start over in getting all the contacts from the persons you meet. Hope you didn't lost the number you met in the club last night.
Chill
The funny thing is that I didn't get the usual popup asking the question if I wanted to combine like one does when first time syncing. I figured it kept my previous sync's data with the phone. Thought I had a backup but don't.
I got my backup working eventually...
All back working... Thanks for the comments.
i just had the same thing happen to me last night. i loaded a new system and put office on it and synced it to my phone and all gone. i really really hate activesync. i really wish there was a good alternative.
Pim Backup. 2.8 is the latest version. You will never lose your contacts again.
Pim backup is slightly different to Activesync though. It is more of a static backup (though you may be able to schedule backups).
Its always good though, to use a backup program as well as activesync for these little accidents that happen.
Pim Backup is faster (I have about 700 contacts), easier to use and eliminates all the problems you get when you have a new flash. It is my choice to use and many others. I no longer sync my contacts with ActiveSync. Oh yeah - I store my pim backups on my SD card.
ms = s&*^
yeap new laptop then connected my htc and now want to bin all ms disk and apps i have, i can dream but need it for my work , unfortanly they now have a box that says ok no sinc but no contacts as i have had above problem but unticked the box to get round it before but no ms have f^&* that up now u dont even have to sync it to lose them well done ms.. fyi all ms serport to rant to cost £1.50 a min lol this is a big joke and its not funny "im a pc and i wish i could have linux" although ms is now going the way of self develipment as there help site is just others that are in the same boat and try to fix ms problems ow and yes no backup well on a working pc that is, any one know how to rip off old hdd? come on team linux, now i have no contacts, going to have a look at that pda google linux on here from what i remember looks good allthough i will lose copilot
ow any one want to join a jount law sute under the banner of dpa (fail to handle personal data responsably) and lose of time at cost of wages and extra programs to protect agenst this problem, i think each of us at one pount has lost a fuw hours with this and maby even lost custom becouse of this, that big contract that you bump in to that key giy get his info and now no lead companys can not be allowed to make such programs as to be poor function. i would be so mad at my self if i had made this program with out redundance or thort. anyway rant over any help with old hdd out look rescue i would be most greatfull
I agree, I use Pim Backup to my storage card every time before I flash a new ROM. It even saves all your call history as well as calendar and contacts
i picked up the new TILT 2 yesterday, and I'm trying to get my contacts (545 of them) from my old tilt. I tryed the Sprite back up way and it didn't work, is there another way to copy the contacts over ? Thanks for your help in advance.
bwnotredame06 said:
i picked up the new TILT 2 yesterday, and I'm trying to get my contacts (545 of them) from my old tilt. I tryed the Sprite back up way and it didn't work, is there another way to copy the contacts over ? Thanks for your help in advance.
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Just sync it up with the pc that you used for your previous Tilt and in the async setup screen, make sure that it has the contacts box checked(default on mine), and the contacts should transfer over just fine.....at least it did on mine!
Later..............
If syncing with PC does not work for you then try MyPhone by Microsoft.
Dotfred's PIMBackup worked perfectly for me.
The one caveat is that it's a bit tricky when trying to restore threaded SMS - there's a HOWTO on that somewhere on these forums.
At0mAng said:
If syncing with PC does not work for you then try MyPhone by Microsoft.
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Thanks I actually got PPCPimBackup to work great, and i tryed the myPhone it work as well. But i'm going to use the PPCPimBackup from now on.
You can also use SPB Back Up 2... Select advanced and restore only the PIM data...i.e. uncheck system box.
SPB Backup2 can be downloaded as a trial for 5 uses full functionality.
Good luck
Hi all.
My Touch Pro 2 has suddenly stopped connecting to any wifi sources
I can still detect wifi networks, and I have recreated all of my previous wifi settings but no joy.
I can't think of anything that I've changed however I did recent "reset to default" my installation of "Advanced Configuration". Wifi worked fine before I installed "Advanced Configuration", after I used it to make changes.
Any suggestions on what I can do to fix this for the next couple of months before I move on to a new phone?
thanks in advance.
You did not tell us what rom you use. Have you tried a hard reset? Try that and see if it works again.
Apologies - vanilla WinMo 6.1 mod
Lennyz1988 said:
You did not tell us what rom you use. Have you tried a hard reset? Try that and see if it works again.
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Apologies - it's a standard HTC WinMo 6.1 ROM no mods or updates.
I'm trying to avoid a hard reset if at all possible. It's a lot of hassle having to set the phone up again - configuring bluetooth, wifi, contacts, etc
In any event I'm planning to get a replacement on another OS in a month or so.
Problem solved!
Dumped the WinMo Touch Pro 2 in favour of an Android device.
SpartanGrey said:
Dumped the WinMo Touch Pro 2 in favour of an Android device.
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So, how well does it synchronize your calendar and contacts with your PC?
stevedebi said:
So, how well does it synchronize your calendar and contacts with your PC?
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Do you actually do that ?!
This is my 3rd wm device. I tried once and never again.
You have to have windows on your pc, use outlook and remember to do it. Why would you when there's online solutions now that involve MUCH less restrictions / effort ?
SpartanGrey said:
Apologies - it's a standard HTC WinMo 6.1 ROM no mods or updates.
I'm trying to avoid a hard reset if at all possible. It's a lot of hassle having to set the phone up again - configuring bluetooth, wifi, contacts, etc
In any event I'm planning to get a replacement on another OS in a month or so.
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Id follow the advice and do a back up of your contacts and what not and just do a hard reset. Its amusing that you'd rather get a new device then take the 20 minutes it would take to hard reset the phone and resync everything back on and get it back to where you want it though
stevedebi said:
So, how well does it synchronize your calendar and contacts with your PC?
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I use microsoft myphone to back up everything every night.. that said I use outlook to do all my calandar stuff which syncs to the phone so I have my contacts and mobile favorites etc back up to that too.
dik23 said:
Do you actually do that ?!
This is my 3rd wm device. I tried once and never again.
You have to have windows on your pc, use outlook and remember to do it. Why would you when there's online solutions now that involve MUCH less restrictions / effort ?
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I suppose it depends what you use your phone for. Like I said.. calandar sycnronization is a must for me.... I would hate to have to type everything out on my phone when I can just change stuff on my computer. Pop it in the dock and away I go!
It's easier than when I had a WinMo device....
stevedebi said:
So, how well does it synchronize your calendar and contacts with your PC?
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It's easy - actually a lot easier than when I had a WinMo device. The new Android phone comes with HTC Sync which allows for syncing with my Outlook install and still allows me to choose what t do with conflicts.
In addition I sync automatically with my online calendar and contacts.
I've been very pleasantly surprised
interesting ideas
Aaron McCarthy said:
Id follow the advice and do a back up of your contacts and what not and just do a hard reset. Its amusing that you'd rather get a new device then take the 20 minutes it would take to hard reset the phone and resync everything back on and get it back to where you want it though
I use microsoft myphone to back up everything every night.. that said I use outlook to do all my calandar stuff which syncs to the phone so I have my contacts and mobile favorites etc back up to that too.
I suppose it depends what you use your phone for. Like I said.. calandar sycnronization is a must for me.... I would hate to have to type everything out on my phone when I can just change stuff on my computer. Pop it in the dock and away I go!
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Interesting ideas.....
I did try a hard reset in the end - it made no difference. In addition I was fed up with trying to update to WinMo 6.5 for better finger tip functionality.
Btw I tried that in the past and spent many long hours "convincing" Outlook not to duplicate appoints since it couldn't recognise existing items.
I tried the myphone service and it was quite good - took a bit of time (I couldn't connect to wifi remember ) but quite good.
I agree about the calendar sync that's important for me too...but so is the wifi access when I'm at home.
In the end the choice of wasting more time trying to fix the WinMo device and get it back to where I started was outweighed by the more flexible, finger friendly and app happy Android device.
And the Android device does a automatic backup to a local sd card by default for all my apps and their settings....
dik23 said:
Do you actually do that ?!
This is my 3rd wm device. I tried once and never again.
You have to have windows on your pc, use outlook and remember to do it. Why would you when there's online solutions now that involve MUCH less restrictions / effort ?
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I DON'T use outlook on my PC. All my stuff is on my phone. But I do use outlook to create new appointments. When I receive an email that involves a meeting, I typically paste in the details and then sync my phone, which receives the data.
It is also easier to manage contacts with outlook.
I also use Outlook as a backup to my contacts and calendars.
As to why? I prefer to have my information available regardless of network access. On-line means I have to have a data connection available. In my travels I have been to places that do not support T-Mobile or a roaming GSM connection. So my phone has it all... and of course it will sync with my laptop as well.
SpartanGrey said:
It's easy - actually a lot easier than when I had a WinMo device. The new Android phone comes with HTC Sync which allows for syncing with my Outlook install and still allows me to choose what t do with conflicts.
In addition I sync automatically with my online calendar and contacts.
I've been very pleasantly surprised
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Well, I intend to have my TP2 for a long while, but after that I may have to decide between Android and WM7. Right now I'm not too big on WM7 because they won't allow customizations to the OS.
this dude obviously didn't take the time to find out the basics of his phone...myphone and a hard reset would have solved his problems in about 5 min...lol...
What's the point?!?!
da9th_one said:
this dude obviously didn't take the time to find out the basics of his phone...myphone and a hard reset would have solved his problems in about 5 min...lol...
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Thanks for your contribution - you must be a real blast at parties.
If you had nothing useful to add why bother adding anything at all...?
I tried hard reset and it made no difference - stated that above.
I tried myphone - interesting service but I found it a bit slow - also stated above.
If you're the best the WinMo crowd can offer I'm quite glad I've moved on to the Android patch.
To everyone else thanks for your suggestions.
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Thanks for your contribution - you must be a real blast at parties.
If you had nothing useful to add why bother adding anything at all...?
I tried hard reset and it made no difference - stated that above.
I tried myphone - interesting service but I found it a bit slow - also stated above.
If you're the best the WinMo crowd can offer I'm quite glad I've moved on to the Android patch.
To everyone else thanks for your suggestions.
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The point is, don't come in here posting an android commercial...lol...your context clues are subpar at best...lol...
i bid you good day...