Do you like it?
I'm not sure, we will have to see how it turns out. But it would be a shame if Blue Angel users stop reading the Himalaya, Wallaby posts. Because a lot of those guys have experience/answers on those machines.
M4io said:
Do you like it?
I'm not sure, we will have to see how it turns out. But it would be a shame if Blue Angel users stop reading the Himalaya, Wallaby posts. Because a lot of those guys have experience/answers on those machines.
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Point is the old hack with two different phone types was both unmaintainable (or at least not on the current time-budget), and it would become unworkable as well when there's 5 or more phones: a 2D matrix of messages would have resulted in a giant mess as well.
More on this later, first some more work...
Peter, thanks for all the hard work!
I have a remark, though.
With the partitioning of the forum in the various HTC phone types, I feel I'm missing a forum entry with a name like "Software" or "Applications". Threads on applications like Zendrui's PocketZenPhone (an app. that runs on at least Wallaby and Himalaya), aren't really at home with one specific phone type.
Of course, there is the "General" forum. But that's so ........... general.
Is that an option?
Regards
Albondigas
... I have neither the XDA1 or 2, I have the 2i (which is technically a different model, right?)... But there are many other forum users who have a totally different model oF XDA, specifically the smartphones or the later models, JasJar, the other one which is going on the market soon... Can't remember the name - just a small point of keeping the forum current really, has someone forgotten to add more choices of phone to the user profile page, or is it a limitation with the mod which is being used?
More curious than anything else...
Am I the only one who is bloody damn tired of opening a thread that appears on the first page of a forum, thinking it is new, only to find that it is six, eight, ten months old?
Wouldn't it be reasonable to have a column in the forum listings that indicates the original posting date of each thread, so that just because someone posted to a five-year old thread, which bumped it to the first bloody page of the forum, we don't have to waste time reading old news?
Ideally, old threads would just fade away to page two, then three, then four, etc. until they ride off into the sunset. What sense does it make for them to take center stage six months after their birth, just because some noob comes along and posts a "downloading now" to LVSW's WM 6 v. 0.1?
Ah, that felt good. Thanks for letting me vent. That means I won't have to stalk the dark, foggy streets around the port of Miami looking for another victim.
Ben
I mostly agree with you Ben. I look at the number of replys and views to try to determine how old a thread is. Then comes the bouncing from page to page to find the posts I haven't seen yet.
I'll admit that I'm new to XDA, so maybe there's a way of only showing the unread threads and/or posts? Then again, sometimes the older posts jog my memory about what is being discussed.
Guess with such an active message board, these sorts of issues come up. Anyone have tips they'd like to share on dealing with it?
Gavin
mikechannon said:
At the risk of becoming one of your victims on a dark and foggy night -
The approach you suggest sounds like the AT&T forum one where threads get closed when they reach a certain age. This is not the approach here. In fact we actively encourage members NOT to start new threads if an old one exists. Who wants new threads on the same thing springing up all over the place (though it seems to happen anyway!). It is a pain when searching if numerous threads turn up on the same subject - and of course there may be good info in each one but not all in the same one.
I would only make one or two exceptions to the "search and use an existing thread" rule and that might be where a thread has become dozens of pages long or has become spoiled in some way or other
Mike
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Michael, it's an honor to have a reply from you. I always enjoy your posts.
And no, you will not become one of my victims around the foggy port of Miami. Aberdeen, perhaps Actually, it is rarely foggy in Miami. Come on over and enjoy the nice weather, friend.
I take your point. However, what about the idea of a column showing the original posting date? Or, could that date somehow be made to show up in the balloon when one places the cursor over the thread's title?
I wasn't really suggesting closing out a thread, Michael. Just letting them drift to the back of the line, perhaps. But even that is not necessary. Let them come to the front page when someone posts to them, that's just dandy. But let us know that they are a week old, or a year old.
Cheers for your contributions to the fora, Michael.
By the by, PLEASE do not accuse me of proposing something that emulates the AT&T forum! Ugh. That will bring out the Mr. Hyde in me. I had a terrible experience there with the appropriately named Mod Moose over a year ago and have not been back sinece
@gavink, thank you for your reply, too. This issue is a pet peeve of mine. It doesn't seem to bother many members, though, so it looks like we will have to live with it. A very old thread can have many, many posts, or very few, by the way, so that's no help.
Regards,
Ben
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In the threads list, the thread will be highlighted in dark blue if there are new posts and to the left of the thread title is a grey box with an arrow that takes you to the first unread (by you) post.
Mike
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Thanks for the tips, Mike... Didn't know what that box was for!
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Normally I have to pay large sums of money for that sort of thing
Miami I know is fabulous - not that I've been there. Weather is undoubtedly better than here - althoughwe do like our Scots mist now and again, provided we get a decent summer.
I can suggest this to site Admin. I agree that some threads eg early threads speculating about the price of the Tilt/Kaiser are pretty usless now. Presumably though these threads just die naturally. If a thread has new posts, why does it matter what date the original post was? Just curious about this 'cos quite often I refer people to threads I and others made over a year ago - if the answers were good then, most often they still are - don't you think?
Hah! I too have fallen foul of Mod Moose. I did go back though (not often). There was a time when the mere mention of XDA on the AT&T forum was seen as something worthy of cruel and un-natural punishment.
Possessing a "pet peeve" is a breach of forum rules. In accordance with the new policy on stronger Moderation you are ordered to be a happy, contented person. Mind altering drugs are available via download from the FTP - should they be required.
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Hello, again, Mike:
As always, your replies are cogent and witty. Large sums, indeed. Please, let it be in US $, not Euros, eh? Be kind.
Well, yes, Miami is pretty fabulous. If you ever get over here, please let me know ahead of time, and we will open our house to you.
OK, I am not requesting any threads be deleted, or even re-ordered. If it were possible, all I would like to see is the date of the original posting. This would help us to avoid wasting time reopening a thread we saw six months ago. For those of my generation, who cannot remember what we did ten minutes ago, this would be very helpful.
Making the original date of the first post available just seems to make sense to my time- and whisky-addled brain. Not to be able to see the date is like publishing an old news article and hiding the date.
From the traffic on this thread, or, more accurately, paucity thereof, I guess it doesn't amount to a hill of beans, so I am going to go pour myself a wee drap of the Glenlivet now and then forget about the whole damn thing. (You see, like you, Mike, I too like the Scots "mist")
But before I sign off, forgive me the breach of forum rules. With the cup of Glenlivet, I shan't be needing any other mind-altering drugs, however.
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A wee drap o' whisky I tak' when I'm weary
My blood for to warm and my spirits to cheer
And when I sit doon I intend to be merry
So fill up a bumper and bring it round here.
(First verse of a traditional Scots song)
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One last observation that has absolutely nothing to do with nothing. Your country's flag, (displayed in your personal information at the top of your e-mails, is practically identical to the U.S. and British Navy signal flag "M." And "M" when spoken in those Navy's, and the international phonetic alphabet, is "Mike."
You have a right to be doubly proud when you see your flag, Mike.
Cheers, brother Michael!
Ben
Mike, I think we have lost the rest of the "crowd" that were already not looking at this thread. Ah, well.
The history and pictures of the whisky mills were an absolute treat. It's amazing how rustic they seem (the sheds, that is)! Thanks for sending those. I will put them into my archive. I really would like to see them in person some day. Made it to London once, but that was a long time ago, and it's not Scotland, where some of my ancestors came from (along with some from Eire.)
I've not run across Macallan. Now I have a mission to find it.
That last picture is a gem. Give me the guy's contact information. From the looks of things, I don't suppose he has an e-mail, eh? I would buy a case of his brew without thinking twice, ha, ha!
As to the "Mike" flag, just Google "Navy Signal Flags." You are in for a treat when you see Scotland's proud flag identified as "Mike. Here is a table that shows both the flags and their phonetic names:
http://www.navsource.org/archives/sfpa.htm
Regards,
Ben
Thank you, Michael. Nothing should be done if there is a cost in money or time. Clearly, not many people are very worked up about about the issue.
Kind regards
Ben
You've a good sense of humor, Mike. Uh, is the photo typical of how the Scots bring up their wee ones? No wonder they are such a feisty bunch
Cheers
Ben
Well, well, well. Methinks you have to much time on your hands, Mike. Of course, here's Ben answering you, so who am I to talk?
Check out my new avatar. I was going to use this when I joined the forum, but never got around to it. The website photo you sent me was too much to resist.
In spite of my age, as revealed now by my mugshot, I still have a bit of "bong" left. I have been feeling less "feisty" the past few months, however. Reading the article you sent, now I understand. Big Ben had lost its "bong."
Not sure those workers scurrying around the face of my, uh, inspiration are going to do much for me, though. Perhaps if one of them were "bonnie Jean" from "the streets of Aiberdeen...."
Ben
(There go my chances of getting my "original post date" request implemented by our dear Webmistress, eh?)
thats too much. you think its a good idea to cut back to something like 120?
stuff to consider
1-archiving many old forums
2-combining old device subforums into one
3-combining accessories forums of all devices.
4-combine software and temes forums of diamond,diamond2,touch pro, Tpro2,X1,HD. all devices are QC7200 based and are almost the same internally
I think it's completely organized. As long as your search it should be fine. I've gotten used to it lol
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thats too much. you think its a good idea to cut back to something like 120?
stuff to consider
1-archiving many old forums
2-combining old device subforums into one
3-combining accessories forums of all devices.
4-combine software and temes forums of diamond,diamond2,touch pro, Tpro2,X1,HD. all devices are QC7200 based and are almost the same internally
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Person 1:
Member Name: The GRIZZ
Join Date: February 2009
Post Count: 56
Person 2:
Member Name: JimmyMcGee
Join Date: January 2008
Post Count: Over 2000
Someone wants to make sweeping changed to the forum, even though the forum has been the same for many years. Guess What, It is Not Person 2!
The Grizz, you are relatively new to XDA. Why do you keep wanting to change it? I'm not saying your opinion doesn't matter. I'm just saying you are only "one month old" as a member here. Give it some time to realize the importance as to why XDA is the way it is.
When I start at a new Job, I don't rearrange the furniture the first day I get there, or ever for that matter. I take the time to get to know where the furniture is and adapt to it.
And if for some reason I totally cannot accept how the business owners have the furniture set up, then maybe that's not the place for me.
XDA has 170 forums because we have 170 legit reasons to provide 170 different types of information. And believe it or not, there are still people who have and use the Blue Angel (or other older device) forum.
if its that hard for you to locate the threads for your device from the main page just bookmark the relevent device threads its not hard or learn to use the scroll button/ page dn
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Person 1:
And believe it or not, there are still people who have and use the Blue Angel (or other older device) forum.
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Like me, for starters
Besides, don't say "BA" like it is a useless device... we just got a new version of WM6.5 (latest leak) with a working copy of Titanium... so for the most part, we still have an up to date BA
Just so you know, I also have a Wallaby, which I might pick up at some point...
@The Grizz,
The fact that there are 170 forums shouldn't matter to you unless you have to search for your stuff throughout the 170 forums, in which case, I would suggest to use the XDA search function or Google.
With your criteria, maybe someone should reorganize the dictionary because it has too many categories (letters)...
Just take it and enjoy it as it is
After impatiently scrolling all the way to the bottom of the Expanded Index to find the Motorola Droid Razr forum, I thought "god there has to be an easier way..." I found the Compact index and it's a little better, but still takes a lot of scrolling to get thru. Can we have an even more compact index, with only the phone models and not their sub-forums listed? I'm OK with having to click thru to get to the list of sub-forums. I was thinking of just a calendar/grid style layout. It could be a picture gallery, with the model names as the caption, or just text. Anything to reduce the amount of vertical scrolling needed to find a phone model.
And on a slightly related note - I would really love to see an index organized by chipset/phone architecture. Mainly because I'm playing with my Droid4 and want to see what other phones' software I could possibly take advantage of. I've found a lot of interesting items in the Droid Razr forum already, but there's obviously more out there that I haven't discovered yet.
For another example, there were whole series of phones built on the Qualcomm MSM720x chipset, both WinMo and Android. It appears that the XDAndroid builds for HTC Rhodium et al were also useful across non-HTC phones like the Sony Xperia 1.
It would help us, as developers, to know what hardware out there is similar to each other. It would allow us to better leverage all of the software development work that's taking place, and we would all make progress faster.
It could help reduce the clutter in the index page, if forums were divided by phone architecture, not Carrier-branded model names. E.g., I don't really see why the AT&T Captivate / T-Mobile Vibrant / other Galaxy S phones needed separate main forums.
My $0.02, after a few years of working with this stuff...
Mostly good ideas..
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After impatiently scrolling all the way to the bottom of the Expanded Index to find the Motorola Droid Razr forum, I thought "god there has to be an easier way..." I found the Compact index and it's a little better, but still takes a lot of scrolling to get thru. Can we have an even more compact index, with only the phone models and not their sub-forums listed? I'm OK with having to click thru to get to the list of sub-forums. I was thinking of just a calendar/grid style layout. It could be a picture gallery, with the model names as the caption, or just text. Anything to reduce the amount of vertical scrolling needed to find a phone model.
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So I agree with you on just about everything you said, that would definitely improve the site. I even agree with the revamping of the index. What I don't understand is why you're complaining about scrolling though. You could either use the provided search bar or even use Ctrl-F while in the index. Either way will get you to a specific phone pretty quickly, no scrolling needed. Unless I completely misunderstood you...