The problem is when I receive text messages from any network, the time stamp is messed up and shows up two minutes in the future (see picture below). I have done a complete hard reset about five times, tried all different software updates, went completely back to stock (unrooted), tried AOSP roms, tried Gingerbread roms, tried Sense roms with AOSP mms.apk, and whatever I try I cannot get rid of this bug. It causes all my text messages to be scrambled and not in order. I use this phone 90% of the time for texting. It's how I handle most of my business. I called Sprint and ended up getting up to their advanced tech support where they simply did a provisioning reset (completely unactivated and activated again) and after that they said there is nothing they can do. So I took it into the remedial Sprint tech in my local Sprint store (don't have enough time to travel 2 hours to get to a corporate store), and they did another master hard reset where they completely reloaded the software (I guess). Still not fixed. I am outside of my 30 days so i cannot do a swap. I cannot send my phone in to HTC because I simply cannot live without a phone for 2 weeks, and I don't have a backup. I've done all types of searching on google and the only thing I could find was about 6 months ago people were having this problem but the times were delayed by an hour or two. The texts are not delayed they show up on time, they just have the wrong time stamp. It has to be something with the network and not the software. My immediate suspicion is that is has something to do with my MMS provisioning to the network but I really don't know how to look into this.
This is probably one of the weirdest problems you will ever see. The picture at the bottom shows the right time in the corner but look at the time on my last incoming text. Off by two minutes in the future. Can anybody offer my some advice I am up for anything. I can also post or send anybody anything. I need this fixed but I just can't deal with Sprint anymore. I realized they are a business but if they support a faulty product, they should fix it without taking anything away from their customers. I always feel like Sprint is trying to take something away from their customers. Oh also one of the Sprint techs said the EVo would not get an official gingerbread update because Sprint wants to push other phones.........most likely a fib but who knows....sounds like Sprint and HTC. Anyways
Just a thought, what if those texts really are coming from the future? I mean for all you know you are caught in some sort of weird time vortex thing that distorts your perception of time, making it seem like you are in the present when actually you are two minutes behind everybody else. That would make any text coming in to you be from 2 minutes in the future. I know this sounds far fetched but I wouldn't discount it as a possibility.
This is a bug in android. Search the market for sms time fix and see if that helps.
Usually it's off by hours and not minutes though. There is also a setting somewhere that will let you use the local time instead of network time but I don't remember where it is at. You could also try disabling roaming, I keep mine locked to Sprint's network and never lose a signal.
Never heard of this fix, but I got the same bug. I just installed chomp sms, works perfect now.
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Try CM7. Perhaps the bug was fixed in Gingerbread (2.3.1)
I tired gingerbread....and the funny thing is this only happens to some phones because my roomate has an evo right now and it does not do any of this....so it is not a problem with android......it has to be the Sprint servers or something. I'm on fully stock right now (no root). I tired gingerbread (CM7) and it didn't help anything. I'm taking my phone back into Sprint today but this time I'm going to give them hell. I payed 350 dollars for this phone I will not settle for "Oh, well we can't do anything about it." You shouldn't have to install anything extra on your phone. I tried that SMS fix but the funny thing is, it messes everything up because my Sprint texts are fine but my verizon and att are all futuristic. And no I am not in some weird wormhole or time continuum the phone is just messed up. It happens with electronics but there is usually this thing called a warranty that allows for direct replacement and for some reason cell phone companies have avoided this whole customer based process. I'll get back in about an hour.
Alright went to my local Sprint Repair Center and they could do absolutely nothing. However I did have the manager push through a priority claim ticket to the network engineers and hopefully, and I do mean hopefully, they call me back. Apparently the last few times I've called they told me they started a ticket, and actually didn't. I think they think I was telling them a lie or something. The manager there was actually extremely helpful and told me he would make sure I get a new phone if this doesn't work. If anybody has any other suggestions please let me know.
I'm curious if this would fix it...
Go to your time options. Settings-Date/Time If automatic is ticked, untick it. If its not, tick it. I would think the bug is caused when a text is sent with a timestamp via the network, at lets say 6:00 but your phone is registered as 5:58. Your timestamp would get all different kinds of backwards in your text app. I'm not sure if time on a phone would be on a BIOS chip like a computer, but it would make sense that your phone is just simply registering the time wrong. If you check/uncheck that and it still does it, simply hard-set the time two minutes ahead.
Recently I've started having the same exact problem, except I have the Samsung Epic. Called customer support once and they "reset messaging" which didn't help at all. Installing any third-party messaging apps haven't helped, and neither has switching between local and network-provided time. Also, its random, so most incoming messages are messed up, but some are actually correct.
I'll try manually setting the time ahead two minutes and bugging some people to text me.
Edit: No luck, with the time set ahead two minutes, incoming timestamps are two minutes ahead of the new setting as well.
av91 said:
Recently I've started having the same exact problem, except I have the Samsung Epic. Called customer support once and they "reset messaging" which didn't help at all. Installing any third-party messaging apps haven't helped, and neither has switching between local and network-provided time. Also, its random, so most incoming messages are messed up, but some are actually correct.
I'll try manually setting the time ahead two minutes and bugging some people to text me.
Edit: No luck, with the time set ahead two minutes, incoming timestamps are two minutes ahead of the new setting as well.
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Please call technical support and get everything into the Sprint system. Ask them to push it to a network engineer. I have to wait until one of them get a hold of me but they may end up just replacing the phone. I'm glad to hear that other people are having the problem also. Also an update, it is text messages from all networks that do this, including Sprint. I will keep this thread updated because I need to get this problem solved. At this point, I don't think there is anything left for me to do from the user end. I just have to wait for Sprint to get it all figured out. I do have insurance and they said they might just put in a request for a new one at no cost to me......also sounds like bs because I thought you had to pay a 100$ deductible no matter what. The Sprint tech said you don't have to pay for the deductible if its a software or network issue and there is no screen crack or water damage. My EVO is in perfect condition but the software doesn't work. Hopefully they will give me a reconditioned one that actually works.
This is a Sprint network problem. Various sprint phones (not just Androids) are notorious for this type of behavior (wrong time stamps, messages out of order, delay in receiving and sending messages, etc etc). It's very frustrating indeed.
For the time being, try using one of the SMS apps on the market like Handcent or ChompSMS. You may still get incorrect time stamps from time to time, but your messages will arrive/send in order.
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This is a Sprint network problem. Various sprint phones (not just Androids) are notorious for this type of behavior (wrong time stamps, messages out of order, delay in receiving and sending messages, etc etc). It's very frustrating indeed.
For the time being, try using one of the SMS apps on the market like Handcent or ChompSMS. You may still get incorrect time stamps from time to time, but your messages will arrive/send in order.
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I appreciate the response but I really don't like using aftermarket apps that don't go along with the theme of the phone. I'm real OCD like that. I don't even like apps that have free next to their name. If you pay 350$ for a piece of electronics, everything should work on it, including software and hardware. The sprint engineers need to get this figured out. This is unacceptable. The amount of money they are getting from their customers is ridiculous so why can't everything work. I realize their stock has taken a murdering but you have to keep your customers happy, that's number one. Anyways, I'm waiting too hear from Sprint but they said 72 hours not including the weekend so If I don't hear from them by next Tuesday, they will be getting a nasty call.
Exact same problem!
It has been driving me crazy. I will receive a text at 9:05, respond to it, and it will say it's 1-2 minutes earlier.
Another thing: we have four Sprint phones in the house. If we're all looking at them at the same time, they don't all say the same time. So, I tend to think that the time that shows when I receive a text is actually the time the sender's phone says. (Is that confusing enough for you?) Could that be the difference?
It only started recently, probably when I updated my phone last month.
This happens randomly on my Evo. Certain people I'm texting with, the time stamps will be out of whack, ranging from 2 minutes off, to over an hour off. My time stamp is always accurate, it's just the other person's that is inaccurate. I can be texting with a different person, at the same time, and the other thread will be perfectly normal. It's annoying. My phone also thought it was somewhere in Amsterdam (i wish i was there with it too) for a few hours, and nothing I tried would get it to show my actual location. I attribute all of this to google issues, and not actual problems with the phone.
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This happens randomly on my Evo. Certain people I'm texting with, the time stamps will be out of whack, ranging from 2 minutes off, to over an hour off. My time stamp is always accurate, it's just the other person's that is inaccurate. I can be texting with a different person, at the same time, and the other thread will be perfectly normal. It's annoying. My phone also thought it was somewhere in Amsterdam (i wish i was there with it too) for a few hours, and nothing I tried would get it to show my actual location. I attribute all of this to google issues, and not actual problems with the phone.
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Alright still not fixed as of Monday....I have one more day until I can call Sprint and give them hell which I love...not....but anyways I've been doing some testing on when actually the time stamp is off. The time stamp is off from any network including Sprint only when the phone is asleep (or the screen is off). Then the time stamp comes in 2-3 minutes in the future. When my phone is on everything comes in fine and one time and all the time stamps are good. It seems like when the phone is asleep its grabbing things from the network 2 min ahead for some reason.
Alrigth just an update on the situation.....called Sprint back they said they had no recollection of my callings the last couple of days....completely unacceptable. Anyways I got real nasty with them and got sent up to retentions (I told them the iphone for verizon looks really good right now.) Walked all over the retentions people and they said just go to a store and get a warranty swap (since I pay the 7 dollars a month or whatever.) I went to the local store (Lafayette, IN 47909) and they said that I was the first one with this problem but not the last. Apparently right after I left the store the first time I went, about 10 to 15 people came in right after that with the same problem. The manager at the store finally got a technician ticket in and apparently the problem has reached a ton of people all the way down to Indianapolis. Even some of the workers at the store are having problems with their EVOs and Epics. The explanation I got was it has to do with android and the text messaging server within the Sprint Network. If anyone else is having this problem...PLEASE CALL SPRINT AND ***** TO THEM. They need to fix this as soon as possible but they won't recognize it as THEIR problem unless a bunch of people call in about it. It should be getting fixed but I will check back on Friday.
I noticed this same problem on mine. Looks like I'll be calling Sprint tonight and stopping by my local store. Maybe I'll just go to Sprint World HQ here in KC and talk to them about it.
pscalett said:
I noticed this same problem on mine. Looks like I'll be calling Sprint tonight and stopping by my local store. Maybe I'll just go to Sprint World HQ here in KC and talk to them about it.
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Please do....I'm wondering if there is a bug in the sms server that is causing this and it is slowly spreading nationwide. I call dibs on pointing this out if this is the case. This was from the mouth of a Sprint Employee. "Sprint will not do anything on an individual level but if the problem spreads to more than enough people, they will jump on it immediately." Now how much people is the real questions? I think the Sprint people thought I was crazy and now they are gonna be like....damn we should have listened to him. It's been going on for about 2 weeks now and I'm hoping it gets fixed before the end of the billing cycle.
Hey OP...as you may have figured by now your not the only one. I get it too. I kind of just let it go since it was minor. Mine also, when someone sends me a pic it goes to the very top of the conversation as opposed to in line with the rest of the texts...again i kind of let it go, but i do understand that we all paid our money, we should have perfection or at least 99.9. Thing is i dont want to swing by sprint and them see warm 2.2!!!! Then i'm really screwed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just do a backup and flash a stock RUU.....sprint needs to know about this..It has nothing to do with our phones but everything to do with their servers and they wont do anything until enough people complain. Anybody in the midwest that is getting text message problems, please call Sprint and complain. Explain to them exactly what is happening and tell them to give you a ticket number and tell them you expect a call within 72 hours. Get you case in so this can be fixed for everybody.
I just got the phone. I have probably had it 2 weeks. It doesn't happen alot but every once in a while the phone seems to be getting clogged up. To the point where I couldn't manipulate the phone at all. I would have to wait a few minutes for the phone to catch up. I'm not running very many apps when it happens. I've had 3 different apps going and listen to music and it hasn't happened. Then other times I can be running one app and it starts to lag. It doesn't seem to have any kind of pattern. I was going to just deal with it as it only happens every one in a while. But today it froze so bad the phone restarted it's self. What app was I running when this happened? Feebly I was reading a news article. Hardly a process intensive app.
So my question is. Do you guys think I should get a new phone? Or I was thinking a factory reset could fix this?
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I just got the phone. I have probably had it 2 weeks. It doesn't happen alot but every once in a while the phone seems to be getting clogged up. To the point where I couldn't manipulate the phone at all. I would have to wait a few minutes for the phone to catch up. I'm not running very many apps when it happens. I've had 3 different apps going and listen to music and it hasn't happened. Then other times I can be running one app and it starts to lag. It doesn't seem to have any kind of pattern. I was going to just deal with it as it only happens every one in a while. But today it froze so bad the phone restarted it's self. What app was I running when this happened? Feebly I was reading a news article. Hardly a process intensive app.
So my question is. Do you guys think I should get a new phone? Or I was thinking a factory reset could fix this?
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If you are within your exchange time period, I would definitely go ahead and swap it out. If you are outside of that then I wouldn't because you will probably get a refurb if you do a warranty exchange through Verizon. The main question is, How time do you have left before you cant exchange it in the store....
Mine doesn't stutter at all even after running a ton of apps when I first got the phone. I read another thread just a few minutes ago that mentioned if you have any stutter or slow downs return it immediately. The original poster mentioned it was a night and day difference when he exchanged it.
Something I found odd with this phone. Is that it has the download Booster. Last I heard Verizon was taking that out of there phones.
We have two Note 4s in our house. One of them has the correct time, and the other one is suddenly off by 1:07. Both of the phones are set up exactly the same way:
Automatic Time Zone - Check
Automatic Date and Time - Check
Both of them show the time zone as GMT -6:00, Mountain Daylight Time
Both phones are running 4.4.4, N910VVRU1ANI1. I haven't taken any OTA updates on either phone.
I have installed nothing on either phone in at least a week.
I've tried rebooting the phone a couple of times, but it hasn't made any difference.
Both phones are sitting right next to one another, so they're on the same tower.
WiFi is on for both phones. Both phones have location with high accuracy turned on. I have tried shutting off wifi and location and rebooting, it made no difference.
I've run out of ideas. Anyone else have any ideas for me to try?
Thanks
Also tried battery pull and safe mode. The time is still off. I've noticed that when the phone boots, the clock will flash a couple of times and then set itself to 8:41am. It's now 10:03.
Never mind. Apparently this is a Verizon issue. I just rebooted the phone that wasn't having the problem, and it is now 8:49 on that phone. In the meantime, the one that was having the problem is now working correctly.
Whatever, Verizon. At least it's happening on my phone, instead of my wife's. I couldn't care less what time my phone says. I never even pay attention to it.
Ok, now it's happening on both of the phones on my account. It is 7:09am on 4/21, but my phone thinks that it's 5:58am on 4/20. Yesterday, my wife's phone was bouncing all over the place. After trying everything to fix this, I called Verizon. Because I'm not on Lollipop yet, they refused to help me. I mentioned that I always wait for a few months after an update comes out for any electronic device and that I've seen a lot of people with battery issues, and he said that there's an easy fix for the battery issues and that he couldn't help me any further until I do the update. Probably because he can't get to the next page in his script until he clicks the button that says that I have the latest updates installed. Ridiculous.
The so called easy fix for battery issues is wiping and restoring the phone. Unless I'm missing something, that's not an easy solution to anything. I've spent hours getting my phone where I want it. I don't want to start over again because Verizon can't put out a good update.
In any case, this isn't a PHONE issues, it has to be a service provider issue. Otherwise it wouldn't be happening on all phones on my account.
So I guess I get to have unreliable phones until the find and fix the actual issue on their own.
The issue is not the phones it is the tower. The phones on a CDMA network set the time be the tower that's why normally you don't have to worry about setting or updating the time on your phone unless the tower is screwed up. If you take the phone somewhere else where it can hit another tower it will most likely fix that. I do see something like this on my wifes tablet but that is because she turns off the LTE radio and only uses the WIFI so it can't synch.
I havent had any issues, but a guy here at school mentioned the same thing with his Verizon phone (not a note 4)
So maybe Verizon is having issues?
When I contacted Verizon this morning, that's what I told the guy. If it was only happening to one phone, then I could see how maybe something on the one phone was somehow screwing up the clock. But both phones? The Verizon rep asked me if I was on the latest update. I told him that I wasn't. He asked why and I told him that I never update anything when an update first comes out. I wait a couple of months. Plus I'd heard that there were battery issues with it. He refused to help me until I was updated. He actually laughed at me and told me that there was a simple fix for the battery issues - resetting and restoring the phone. Yea, that's so simple. Anyway, as I was walking out of the room, I caught sight of my network extender. That little box that has been plugged in and working just fine for over two years. The GPS light was flashing purple. I restarted it, waited for all lights to go blue, and then restarted the phones. The time has been perfect ever since.
So yup, it was the tower - the little tower in my house. That thing has been so reliable since I got it, that I forgot that it was even in the equation.
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When I contacted Verizon this morning, that's what I told the guy. If it was only happening to one phone, then I could see how maybe something on the one phone was somehow screwing up the clock. But both phones? The Verizon rep asked me if I was on the latest update. I told him that I wasn't. He asked why and I told him that I never update anything when an update first comes out. I wait a couple of months. Plus I'd heard that there were battery issues with it. He refused to help me until I was updated. He actually laughed at me and told me that there was a simple fix for the battery issues - resetting and restoring the phone. Yea, that's so simple. Anyway, as I was walking out of the room, I caught sight of my network extender. That little box that has been plugged in and working just fine for over two years. The GPS light was flashing purple. I restarted it, waited for all lights to go blue, and then restarted the phones. The time has been perfect ever since.
So yup, it was the tower - the little tower in my house. That thing has been so reliable since I got it, that I forgot that it was even in the equation.
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Wow, what brand is the extender since it was so reliable?
KruseLudsMobile said:
Wow, what brand is the extender since it was so reliable?
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It's this one:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/samsung-network-extender-scs-2u01/
It was a refurb, but I got it for free. When I first started with Verizon, I had all sorts of issues with dropped calls at home. They said that they could give me this, or I could cancel. Where I used to live, Verizon was the only real reliable choice, so I stuck with it and took the extender.
Looking around the forum, I think I already know the answer, but thought I'd put the question out there. Ever since installing the newest firmware, both my aftvs have been acting a little funny. It's nothing I can pinpoint just little observations like the home screen takes a bit longer to fully load, after using an app i have glitches in the UI like the manage apps section will hang on the screen with nothing else, pin code definitely takes longer to validate (sometimes), and being a new member of prime I never experienced this before but twice I got the message "internet too slow". The last time I got this message I decided to reboot modem and router so I can't say for sure it wasn't the network but my speedtest clocked 142 mbps down. A long time netflix subscriber, aftv user for 14 months and until 2 days ago I didn't even know this message existed.
A lot of the things I'm describing could probably be attributed to network troubles but I can't really make sense of that given the fact it was fine before the update. BUT, like I said, I just started using prime too. Common sense wouldn't even nudge me in the direction of thinking that might be the culprit, however, I remember when netflix was having issues, one of amazon's own solutions involved clearing data in amazon video so who knows...
Really I might be making this post too long. All I really want is a consensus that people aren't having the same problems I am. Thanks.
Guess its just me. Lol
Well at least I can probably rule out firmware issue.