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Dopod Test ROM striped Down For Download..

Well peeps i like to take the ROM we have here and pretty much take all the crap out of them that i can. So here you go! here is the dopod test rom that can be found on this forum with a 4MB pagepool and almost everything you dont need taken out of it. below are some screen shots I have tested this rom for a while now and its damn fast and has great battery life plus with 62.00 of program memory you can add lots of your own sh*t and still have room left over on the first boot you will have 31MB free of memory... trust me its a really nice rom i didnt build it but like i said just took stuff out that i never use so enjoy folks...
download link from rapid share-
http://rapidshare.com/files/32239884/MyTestRom.rar

Alas, your screen shots didn't seem to come through correctly.
Can you quickly describe
what's in / what's out
how much storage ROM / program RAM
what versions of OS (plus any hex editing you may have done)
Thanks in advance!

CE OS 5.2.1236 build 17741.0.2.1
sorry about the screen shoots... errrr
No Ext-rom removed that and the auto run for it.
all ringtones are removed pagepool set to 4MB like i said. All Sim mangers removed plus other apps that no one ever uses
there is 62.86 storage memory and on a freash reboot 32.oo memory free. Sorry i didnt make a list of everything i took out its just pretty much the dopod test rom vannilla
Still has the old office in it maybe later today i'll put 2007 in but there seems to be huge issues with that. for some reason but i'll post a working cab of OneNote for everyone.

Fast is everything to me!
so thanks!
Right now im on Sleuths Lsvw derivative and it smokes.seriously!
to be honest I flashed Dopod roms twice and was really disappointed...very sluggish performance for me.
Looking forward to feedback here!

look its fast flash and see lol..... i noticed that with the apps i run custels and JJ's rom's slow down a bit with this one they stay up to speed plus the storage memory is huge. if you dont like it flash back to what you have now

I agree....its the only way to tell.
Need to start a like, 5pt poll on every rom and rate 1-6 or whatever.
Dutty's and Lsvw's blazed.....I cuncur on JJ's slowed for me......even when buzzin (just love the aesthetics.....use the today page on every Rom)
But was just pointing out that the dopod based Roms were slow(est) for me....which is why I look forward to feedback.

Memory problems with roms.

Hi have tryed a few differnt roms the last weeks. But it seems that most of them have some sort of memory leaks. The one om using now is shaps 4.01 and it has the same issues.
Can anybody sugest a rom that does not leak?
Just to clear things up.
When i first boot my device it has lets say 25mb free memory. But after some time it is doen to 20 at the most. I even use oxios closeapps but it does not seem to help. After e reboot it is ok agin. But it does not last long.
Are the original roms any better?
Is there a rom that does not have this issu?
Please somebody give me some advice.
Witch rom would you recomend? For memory and stability (least reboots)

I recommend Edhaas' superD-lite. It is snappy, has tons of space, and very, very stable. As far as memory leaks, I haven't really had any issue with memory, so I never really checked. As of now after a few days of use without a soft-reset I have about 23mb free with no progs running except being connected to the pc via activesync. I use wktask to close programs.

Austinsnyc's 3.62 clean also has very very little/no leakage. Im still waiting for his 3.62.03 version.

flippy said:
Please somebody give me some advice.
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OK, here's some: Stop being so neurotic about your free memory value and only worry about it if your device becomes unstable to the point of requiring a reset. I've seen WM eventually reclaim what appears to be "lost" memory many times....

vp3G said:
OK, here's some: Stop being so neurotic about your free memory value and only worry about it if your device becomes unstable to the point of requiring a reset. I've seen WM eventually reclaim what appears to be "lost" memory many times....
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LOL i get your point and will take it
No more memory gages for me

Short-term remedy
Check out my posts here (Memory freeing cab located here) and here (Brief description here).
Hope this helps!
Quakie

I already tryed that. But im now gonna stop worrying about memory.

I am looking for a specifc ROM- can you help?

Hey all -
Great forum, and happy to be a member, here's my story, perhaps you can help.
I have just received a TYTN few weeks ago, and I am trying to make the best of it.
So far - I am frustrated, very frustrated!
Why? since I was a Palm OS user, which was so simple and fast, its nothing to compared to windows mobile.
I have tried over the past month several ROMs, per this forum's advice -
1) Black Satin Medium and Light
2) Schap's
3) Faria
4) Shadow 2.1
5) K's
and maybe a few more...the problem is that for each and every one of them I tackled, slowness and major memory problems - ones which forced mt to a soft reset to continue my work.
So what I am looking for - a ROM that will fit my machine's HW, not something too special or packed with apps, something simple that will have the basics, but will be fast and full of memory for programs, over 40 MB after cold boot.
any idea - which one for me?
BTW - up until now, Black Satin Medium was the best option.

I've got a couple of options for you.
#1, SuperDLite by Edhaas is very stable, good with program memory and has lots of storage memory. Has most of the things most people need, and very little fat.
#2, A newer ROM that I have been trying out lately is Shamanix's Ultimate V2 Final. It has a newer base than SuperDLite, and seems to be a very well-polished ROM. However, I have only tried it for about a week and can't speak of how it may fare in the long run.
Give those two a shot. I've a feeling one of them will be to you liking.

Thanks
I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...

i use Pandora Naked 9b1 w/Big Storage - WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604
Memory Details:
Storage: 79 w/MMS, 82 w/o MMS
Program: 30
its fast and clean but u have to install progs when u need more dont forget to install .NET CF 3.5 if u wanna add extra progs

ofird said:
I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
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Think of big storage as having an 25 gallon gas tank on your car. Sure, you only drive your car to work and back everyday, so you don't need a very big tank. But who knows? You might want to travel cross country someday.
Anyway, just like there aren't many cars without big gas tanks these days, there aren't many ROMs without big (or super) storage these days.

ofird said:
I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
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With a Lite ROM you may just get a little over 30MB RAM after a cold boot. You will never see anything like 40MB and 50MB is purely in your fantasy.

Thanks
Hi All,
Thank you for the responsiveness, I will give those 3 ROMs a shot.
I simply cannot face the fact that from time to time I run iGo and get a message: "iGo needs at least 6MB to run"...
then I look at the memory usage and see that I have about 4 MB left - I am wondering how come? nothing is running, but there's is probably a Mem leak somewhere which I cannot for see.
I tried also to use Close Apps and Hibernate to free RAM, and I will use MemTools as well.
For now, it seems to be a "complicated and slow" OS for this machine, perhaps WM 5 (what originally came with it) is more appropriate for HTC TYTN (Hermes 200) hardware.

Wanna bet $$??????

ofird said:
Hi All,
Thank you for the responsiveness, I will give those 3 ROMs a shot.
I simply cannot face the fact that from time to time I run iGo and get a message: "iGo needs at least 6MB to run"...
then I look at the memory usage and see that I have about 4 MB left - I am wondering how come? nothing is running, but there's is probably a Mem leak somewhere which I cannot for see.
I tried also to use Close Apps and Hibernate to free RAM, and I will use MemTools as well.
For now, it seems to be a "complicated and slow" OS for this machine, perhaps WM 5 (what originally came with it) is more appropriate for HTC TYTN (Hermes 200) hardware.
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Oh yeah baby, I'd bet that's a mem leak. Hibernate will help, but you had best hunt that sucker down. Check your Today plugins first.
And I think what ultramag was trying to say is that WM6 runs very smoothly on Hermes hardware. I have flashed many WM6 ROMs and there have been some real stinkers - but none were slower than the stock WM5 that was on my device.
Of course, you aren't the first person I have heard of complain that WM6 is slower than his WM5 stock ROM. You are the second. If a fresh install of your WM5 is running smoother and faster than the ROMs I recommended above then I want to know where I can get that ROM.

I think you'll find IGO is the problem. I had it on wm5 and wm6. Its a memory hog. keep clearing all the destination and trip lists and you shouldn't have a problem. This is why I moved to Tomtom 6. Its so much more stable and I've NEVER had a memory problem again. Hope this helps....

Looking at SuperDLite I see a few versions, which one would you reocmmned for speed:
DopodLite1.0HermesWM6.zip
DopodLiteV1.1-6mbPP-WM6.zip
DopodLiteV1.1WM6.zip
DPLHermesWM6V1.2a4mbPP.zip
DPLHermesWm6V1.2a6mbPP.zip
SuperD-LiteWM6Hermes4mbPP.rar
SuperD-LiteWM6Hermes6mbPP.rar
?

Re: speed
They're all quick. Theoretically the 1.2 and Super-D versions may be slightly faster because the windows directories have been minimized. Some people feel the 4mb page pool roms are slightly quicker than 6mb, but I prefer the 6mb (just "feels" better to me). Check the thread for more details.
Have fun!

I used the 1.2 version, its pretty quick, I am missing the "profiles" of V6.1 and the "today" screen features - is there a plgin to add them in?
In addiotn, touchFlo SL does not work on this ROM - any idea why?

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Not sure what the profiles thing is, or what today screen features you're talking about exactly...
If you post a link to Touchflo SL I'll check it out.
I was going to suggest you post these questions on the Super-D thread, but then I see you're the OP and it's your thread to do what you want with!
Best wishes,

Thanks Ed, I will follow you request, so far the ROM is fast and snappy. I have a feeling that WM 6 are doing better on my TYTN then WM 6.1.
Just to clarify - By "profiles" I mean the feature in the today screen which give you the option to "vibrate" the phone ringer by schedule, i.e - if I have a meeting then the phone will automatically switch to vibrate.
Touch FLO (not SL) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143

Possibly n00b q: roms that use memcard instead of rom?

I've seen a lot of those great roms that unfortunately are using up all but about 20MB of my Hermes phone's memory. But I've noticed that some of the apps that come with it could be installed on the memory card instead of main memory, freeing up a lot of memory.
An example is google maps, which is using up an extra 2MB of main memory. Why can't rom authors make a rom that then instructs you to install as many of the apps as possible manually, so that you can specify to have the app install on the memory card instead of main memory?
I'd like to uninstall google maps and other apps, then install them manually onto the memory card, but unfortunately since they're cooked into the rom, uninstalling them doesn't release any mem.
Any no, I already know about the 'lite' versions; I'm using a lite version, but even lite versions have apps that could be better installed on the memory card.
And no, I already understand that if I don't have the memory card installed, the phone might not operate properly. I know that. I don't plan to remove it (and never do).
I guess what I'm after is a Manilla build that has all the main functions available, but then gets you to install the rest on the memory card.
A cool way to do this would be to have a zip file that has all the apps installed on the memory card, and all you have to do is place them on your card before flashing the rom. The rom could already assume (be configured) to expect the files to be on the card already. Provided the mem card drive is running before any dependencies run, it would work.
It would be great to free up 5MB of main memory and still use Manilla and other memory hogs.

Intresting point, and i fully agree how useful this would be, i guess i always tried to get a lite version as well, and then manually install any apps after, just so i got as much memory left to run m2d itself. Look forward to hopefuly an answer on this one.

M3NF said:
Intresting point, and i fully agree how useful this would be, i guess i always tried to get a lite version as well, and then manually install any apps after, just so i got as much memory left to run m2d itself. Look forward to hopefuly an answer on this one.
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Ummm - you mean like a naked build? :|

You have to remember too, some apps install to main memory even though you choose the sd card. Some don't give you the option and some apps, no matter where they are eat up ram simply for being installed...

That would be great for testing roms.. For example, i installed custom rom for my Canon Ixus70 digital camera, and it works perfect.

There are loads of naked builds, but you have to remember that the SD card is slower and uses more power than the internal flash rom. (As far as I know).
Also, things like Manilla 2D only work with everything installed on-board.
The other problem is that TF2D Is slower when not cooked in, a lot so (Again, in my experience).

veyka said:
There are loads of naked builds, but you have to remember that the SD card is slower and uses more power than the internal flash rom. (As far as I know).
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You are absolutely right about this one )))

Ok, sure, there are trade-offs, but I'd happily trade speed for just being able to use a Manilla build without Opera killing everything and visaversa. Just as an option.
But I'll look for a naked Manilla build. Perhaps a cook might try exploring this different approach as an interesting offering. It might gain traction with those that want more memory and don't care if Opera runs slower.

douginoz said:
Ok, sure, there are trade-offs, but I'd happily trade speed for just being able to use a Manilla build without Opera killing everything and visaversa. Just as an option.
But I'll look for a naked Manilla build. Perhaps a cook might try exploring this different approach as an interesting offering. It might gain traction with those that want more memory and don't care if Opera runs slower.
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I think there are TF2D roms without Opera?
for example this rom by Josh is a lite tf2d one!
removed from rom:
MS Office 6.1
Flashlite
NetCFg config
PimBAckup
Pshutxp
GOOGLE MAPS -latest
Bright screen
eXtraDlls
OSX Blue keyboard skin to match theme!
Jade random access
HTC YouTube
Ringtone Plugin 3
Opal ShareDll
Raphal Dshow
WKtask Manager
Screen Rotate
FTP for bluetooth packages, Bluetooth Printing
RSS Hub
Opera 9.5
AudioManager, and Audio tab -removed
Internet Tab pointing to PIE
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Anyways, he cooks lots of custom flavours for people, if you chucked him a donation im sure he would cook you one

There are very few naked m2d roms thou, i guess thats the problem most as listed have alot of added extra like keyboards, opera and pim backup, i guess i personally like as said a naked version but only the needed m2d system items and then no extras so i can just the install what extra personally used to myself, again others could also do this.
I love the roms that are out there, but they all come with these extra and not a naked version that i can find.

M3NF said:
There are very few naked m2d roms thou, i guess thats the problem most as listed have alot of added extra like keyboards, opera and pim backup, i guess i personally like as said a naked version but only the needed m2d system items and then no extras so i can just the install what extra personally used to myself, again others could also do this.
I love the roms that are out there, but they all come with these extra and not a naked version that i can find.
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i hear you dude... i think i'm feeling the need to do a bare bones build up somtime soon.

Thats great to hear josh, i liked you builds so far, and there fast, but personally to much is added that i would not use. A fully working m2d, but take out all the extra apps apart from crc update. This would give a great speed but also allow everyone else to add easyly anything else.
I tested a few roms now, but finding one that has a real naked version is so hard. I know making roms must be hard, and take time. Chefs like you do it for the people, and there is no way to get a rom a personal way when so many people would like it different items on it, happy to please us all

douginoz said:
Ok, sure, there are trade-offs, but I'd happily trade speed for just being able to use a Manilla build without Opera killing everything and visaversa.
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Opera is killing everything not because of ROM but not enough RAM. I agree with you on both points and this is the reason I don't use any Manilla2D ROMS due to not enough ROM and RAM.
I need a ROM with as much RAM free as possible as IGO8 etc can use a lot of memory. Everything superfluous and surplus to the ROMS running should be left for CAB installs or left out of the startup. (I don't need start clean)
Josh's ROM in my sig is good but it could still do with getting in the gym and being a bit leaner. (Office can be installed as a CAB) and after going to 4MB pagepool from the default 6MB I had 28MB straight after install.

HTC TP2 Slowness problem

Hi,
i'm looked on google for any slowness problem of the TP2 in all the pro reviews they all give it a + for speed , but my phone isn't really fast actually
When i'm running HTC Sense UI its sometimes slow like i'm typing a message , i typed allready a line while the phone is still showing 1 per 1 the letters so i need to wait till i got the full line that i typed and than send it.
Anyone having too some slowness problems with the HTC TP2? Because its really annoying me.
(While running nothing actually not Windows Standard , not HTC Sense, just nothing with only msn and all the rest of buttons if you know what i mean.)
Memory Info :
Storage :
Total : 219.57 MB
In Use : 104.17 MB
Free : 115.41 MB
Program
Total : 187.35 MB
In Use : 114.91 MB
Free : 72.43 MB
(While using HTC Sense)
Storage :
Total : 219.57 MB
In Use : 104.17 MB
Free : 115.41 MB
Program
Total : 187.35 MB
In Use : 135.73 MB
Free : 51.62 MB
I'm using no HTC Sense or Windows Standard now because it has less that slowness piep. But it still has it sometimes but not so many as the other 2.
I hope anyone can find a solution for this. I allready tryed reinstalling ROM etc..
Note : i got the newest ROM running from HTC

Have you tried installing SSK dynamic resource proxy and nopushinternet? Those should help out a lot.

burtonsnow8 said:
Have you tried installing SSK dynamic resource proxy and nopushinternet? Those should help out a lot.
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No i don't where can i find that dll?

K, i found them and installed them , i have around 65 MB free with the HTC Sense loaded now , it helps not so much but it does a little =D
Anyone more suggestions to get my HTC TP2 at top speed with HTC Sense?

My advice would be to flash the rom in my singnature It's really speedy.

Lennyz1988 said:
My advice would be to flash the rom in my singnature It's really speedy.
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Hmm , ok but you got any pics of how the rom looks like? i mean the main screen (today screen) , menu screen etc... ?
Cuz i want a speedy gsm , with a nice look.
I really like the android build too but it has some bugs and isn't complete so i'm waiting for that one to be fully completed for my HTC TP2 .

Lukas320 said:
K, i found them and installed them , i have around 65 MB free with the HTC Sense loaded now , it helps not so much but it does a little =D
Anyone more suggestions to get my HTC TP2 at top speed with HTC Sense?
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I know what you are facing friend, I have been through all of it, Slowness, Low RAM/Program Memory et al
There is one fact that some of the TP2 users have come to accept and is that this is a device meant to run WM6.1 although HTC also have officially announced an upgrade to WM6.5. But all it does it hog on a lot of RAM.
I have been through Official ROM Updates and many many custom ROMs available at XDA but there is nothing faster and better than WM6.1 for my TP2 (Well its only my opinion - No offense to any of the Great Chefs cooking ROMS for our TP2s.
I use the one in my signature & love it changed through a lot and then am again back to it. I would suggest you read all the posts on any custom ROM that you are planning to flash before actually go ahead with it.
My TP2 just cant handle WM6.5 & above that coupled with Sense2.5 (Impossible for Me)
Let me know if I can be of any help.
Regards,
P.S. Hey by the way I am just posting a screen shot of my Sense 2.1 Home Tab.... I know its nothing much but I love to flaunt it whenever I can.

Here is the thread. The screens are a little bit old, but you get a good impression. Just give it a try and you can always go back to you're stock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=569507

K, i'm getting problems with these ROM's i'm always stuck when its at 0% and than it does nothing anymore and i so it automaticly disconnected my sync.
I've so you needed Hard SPL to be able to do another rom , so anyone got a link for the Hard SPL download?
thank you

nileshvedi said:
I know what you are facing friend, I have been through all of it, Slowness, Low RAM/Program Memory et al
There is one fact that some of the TP2 users have come to accept and is that this is a device meant to run WM6.1 although HTC also have officially announced an upgrade to WM6.5. But all it does it hog on a lot of RAM.
I have been through Official ROM Updates and many many custom ROMs available at XDA but there is nothing faster and better than WM6.1 for my TP2 (Well its only my opinion - No offense to any of the Great Chefs cooking ROMS for our TP2s.
I use the one in my signature & love it changed through a lot and then am again back to it. I would suggest you read all the posts on any custom ROM that you are planning to flash before actually go ahead with it.
My TP2 just cant handle WM6.5 & above that coupled with Sense2.5 (Impossible for Me)
Let me know if I can be of any help.
Regards,
P.S. Hey by the way I am just posting a screen shot of my Sense 2.1 Home Tab.... I know its nothing much but I love to flaunt it whenever I can.
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I agree, 6.1 all the way. All you really lose is a couple of useless finger-friendly enhancements and the scattered stat menu. And the less Sense the better.

Lukas320 said:
K, i'm getting problems with these ROM's i'm always stuck when its at 0% and than it does nothing anymore and i so it automaticly disconnected my sync.
I've so you needed Hard SPL to be able to do another rom , so anyone got a link for the Hard SPL download?
thank you
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Anyoneee? i'm waiting for answer

Lukas320 said:
Anyoneee? i'm waiting for answer
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You really shouldn't even be trying to flash a ROM until you've thoroughly read all the info in THIS thread (and yes, it includes a link to the HSPL you need....along with info on all the ways you can brick your phone by not following the directions exactly as they should be)