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Will there be one set up? It is an HTC device.
Question has been asked, answer is no for now. If there's enough buzz in the General forum about the Treo Pro the moderators/administrators may change their minds, but they're aware of the desire and they've made a decision. Talk about it in the General forum.
Black93300ZX said:
Question has been asked, answer is no for now. If there's enough buzz in the General forum about the Treo Pro the moderators/administrators may change their minds, but they're aware of the desire and they've made a decision. Talk about it in the General forum.
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I'm all for rules and clear cut policies, so we all know where I stand. The ONLY criteria given consistently, for years, for creating device-specific forums on XDA-dev, was that they had to be made by HTC. Fair enough, everyone understood that. That's one reason xda-dev, and its mods, have always been respected as a sensible forum.
Now we have the Treo Pro, we are told that being made by HTC device doesn't count, and its the number of posts and "buzz" that matters (to a threshold which is conveniently not defined). Yet a single General/Palm Treo 850 thread has almost as many posts as the whole G1 section. The X1 has a forum under "Other HTC manufactured phones". Come to think of it, shouldn't the Treo 750 and G1 be in that section too?
Where's the transparency and clarity gone?
I have re-raised this issue with the mods and admin. It does seem that the Treo Pro is gathering quiet a following now...
Regards
Dave
Ineedtoys said:
I'm all for rules and clear cut policies, so we all know where I stand. The ONLY criteria given consistently, for years, for creating device-specific forums on XDA-dev, was that they had to be made by HTC. Fair enough, everyone understood that. That's one reason xda-dev, and its mods, have always been respected as a sensible forum.
Now we have the Treo Pro, we are told that being made by HTC device doesn't count, and its the number of posts and "buzz" that matters (to a threshold which is conveniently not defined). Yet a single General/Palm Treo 850 thread has almost as many posts as the whole G1 section. The X1 has a forum under "Other HTC manufactured phones". Come to think of it, shouldn't the Treo 750 and G1 be in that section too?
Where's the transparency and clarity gone?
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Okay, don't get all bent out of shape. First of all Black 93 300ZX is not an administrator or representative of any steering committee of XDA-Developers.
Here's how I would recommend you follow through on this. Find definitive proof that its is made by HTC, then send the request to the Site's Administrator.
At that point you will probably get a forum.
EDIT: Here have a leg up courtesy of me. http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/7868/treo-pro-manufactured-by-htc/
Thank you Dave and Jimmy, good to know someone is listening. Several people have already provided this evidence and PM'd the mods and the only response seen so far has been "no".
For others who are interested, the main Treo Pro discussion thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419354
and the Wiki is here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PalmTreoPro
All contributions welcome.
Ineedtoys said:
Thank you Dave and Jimmy, good to know someone is listening. Several people have already provided this evidence and PM'd the mods and the only response seen so far has been "no".
For others who are interested, the main Treo Pro discussion thread is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419354
and the Wiki is here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=PalmTreoPro
All contributions welcome.
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What is the reason given for the not having a Treo Pro thread? Seems to me that alot of people want it. It's made by HTC. It's not hard to open a thread. What gives?
I hope this isn't a case of phone envy
stevebrooks said:
What is the reason given for the not having a Treo Pro thread? Seems to me that alot of people want it. It's made by HTC. It's not hard to open a thread. What gives?
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No reason has been given. That's because no representative of xda-devs has said "no".
It is under consideration at the moment, forums don't just spring out the ground you know.
I'll update you when I know more...
Dave
DaveShaw said:
No reason has been given. That's because no representative of xda-devs has said "no".
It is under consideration at the moment, forums don't just spring out the ground you know.
I'll update you when I know more...
Dave
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Actually I think Flar said "no" but whatever.
Who is Hyins? and why did they move the Palm Treo Wiki to "Skywriter"?!?! Skywriter was the code name for the CDMA version.
lewcamino said:
Actually I think Flar said "no" but whatever.
Who is Hyins? and why did they move the Palm Treo Wiki to "Skywriter"?!?! Skywriter was the code name for the CDMA version.
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No idea, Drop Hyins a PM and ask. It is a wiki, so anyone can edit it
I couldn't find any post by Flar with regards to the Treo Pro Forum (unless you go back to the old treos) nor could anyone else It must have been lost somewhere.
As I said before, it is been considered and an update will be given when available.
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
No idea, Drop Hyins a PM and ask. It is a wiki, so anyone can edit it
I couldn't find any post by Flar with regards to the Treo Pro Forum (unless you go back to the old treos) nor could anyone else It must have been lost somewhere.
As I said before, it is been considered and an update will be given when available.
Ta
Dave
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Yeah. It was via PM but no worries. Glad to see it progress.
Treo Pro Forum
I agree the Treo Pro should have it own Forum.
I find myself visiting XDA Dev a lot less because it is hard to follow the postings as everyone is lumping multiple topics in to a single thread.
Anyway, Thanks for the consideration.
-D
I get this device today ... its fantastic ... and i think unique!
DaveShaw said:
No reason has been given. That's because no representative of xda-devs has said "no".
It is under consideration at the moment, forums don't just spring out the ground you know.
I'll update you when I know more...
Dave
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Thanks for looking into it.
I have an 800w, but I'd like to see a Treo Pro forum here, too. Might be able to pick up a few tips, etc. for myself.
DaveShaw said:
No idea, Drop Hyins a PM and ask. It is a wiki, so anyone can edit it
I couldn't find any post by Flar with regards to the Treo Pro Forum (unless you go back to the old treos) nor could anyone else It must have been lost somewhere.
As I said before, it is been considered and an update will be given when available.
Ta
Dave
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Dave, just to let you know that I got a PM by Flar a while ago too, saying the only way was to raise enough buzz...
Thanks for your efforts...
Here's the definitive proof of the HTC-origins. I've found the bootloader mode for the Treo Pro, and we can deduct the real codename Panther from it (as 750=Cheetah). I've updated the Wiki accordingly.
Enter Treo Pro bootloader mode
oVan said:
Here's the definitive proof of the HTC-origins. I've found the bootloader mode for the Treo Pro, and we can deduct the real codename Panther from it (as 750=Cheetah). I've updated the Wiki accordingly.
Enter Treo Pro bootloader mode
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Hi,
I have removed the PalmTreoPro wiki page and replaced it with a re-direct to the new HTC_Panther page you created. Now there is only one list of info to update.
Ta
Dave
Buzz Buzz Buzz - another vote for Treo Pro Forum
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Dave, just to let you know that I got a PM by Flar a while ago too, saying the only way was to raise enough buzz...
Thanks for your efforts...
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Buzz Buzz Buzz
This bee is getting a Treo Pro, and I would definitely like to see a forum for it here.
Since I didn't technically vote for it, I'll do it now.
It's cleary an HTC device and has already benefitted from the developers on this site. If the 750 is on here, no reason the Pro shouldn't be.
No really. What a messy forum there... 30% totally spam topics, and lot's of duplicated questions everywhere.
Where are clear FAQs, Sticky notes, Info and news in a beggining of HTC General forum?
No admins or moderators there?
Especially HTC Hero General.
shadow_fi said:
No really. What a messy forum there... 30% totally spam topics, and lot's of duplicated questions everywhere.
Where are clear FAQs, Sticky notes, Info and news in a beggining of HTC General forum?
No admins or moderators there?
Especially HTC Hero General.
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Good point but you can not blame the Mods or Admin they do a great job on this site and there are lots of members that do not Abide by the RULES do not bother reading back posts and just post a problem that has been posted before, every day i tell people to read back posts before they post a new problem but it falls on Deaf ears
lufc said:
Good point but you can not blame the Mods or Admin they do a great job on this site and there are lots of members that do not Abide by the RULES do not bother reading back posts and just post a problem that has been posted before, every day i tell people to read back posts before they post a new problem but it falls on Deaf ears
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You didnt get the idea. I didn't blame any admin. I think they have enough things to do. I am just wondering, where are warning, bans, etc.
Maybe we need some, 3 warning and ban for a week? If someone was helpfull, i could give him +1 point, if not -1. System like that.
And there is not enough FAQs, News, Notes in start of forums.
Also maybe there is not enough of admins?
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You didnt get the idea. I didn't blame any admin. I think they have enough things to do. I am just wondering, where are warning, bans, etc.
Maybe we need some, 3 warning and ban for a week? If someone was helpfull, i could give him +1 point, if not -1. System like that.
And there is not enough FAQs, News, Notes in start of forums.
Also maybe there is not enough of admins?
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Its a a vary hard system to Police when you go down the warning side of things and points i have seen it split up a forum before as the ban was not agreed with by the members and they boycotted the forum because of it not saying thats the same in every case.
And every body knows there is Rules they just choose to not comply like i said they don't even read what was written in the last hr so theres no hope for the rules.They have a device with a chosen ROM and stick to that thread but there is a lot more to XDA than that
shadow_fi said:
No really. What a messy forum there... 30% totally spam topics, and lot's of duplicated questions everywhere.
Where are clear FAQs, Sticky notes, Info and news in a beggining of HTC General forum?
No admins or moderators there?
Especially HTC Hero General.
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We're working on appointing forum-specific mods for each and every forum, as per the moderation system you may have read about. It's a big job, as you could imagine, but we're making good progress.
In the mean time, please feel free to PM me directly with any occurrence of spam, etc. =D
And of course, you're able to use the "report" button on a post to notify a moderator about spam or whatever you feel should be reported.
Sticky Notes
shadow_fi said:
No really. What a messy forum there... 30% totally spam topics, and lot's of duplicated questions everywhere.
Where are clear FAQs, Sticky notes, Info and news in a beggining of HTC General forum?
No admins or moderators there?
Especially HTC Hero General.
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Speaking of Sticky Notes...
Where the heck are these sticky notes I keep hearing the masses speak of?
I can't seem to find them ...
MWTTRON said:
Speaking of Sticky Notes...
Where the heck are these sticky notes I keep hearing the masses speak of?
I can't seem to find them ...
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you do know you just bumped a 3 year old thread?
There only sticky threads.. If you hover over some options.. you can get brief details about it which you can call sticky notes I guess as it always pops up..
Nice near 3 year bump.
But with the question answered, thread closed.
When this happend in the hero section about the eclair update the active mod deleted all these stupid rumor threads about the update and made one sticky at the top of the page where everyone could discuss the latest rumours without it affecting day to day forum busness, he also made it clear that any other threads about the update would be deleted!! can we not do this here too? do we even have a mod? every other thread seems to be about it we are along way from a froyo update i think, not only do htc have to get sence workin on a whole new os, there gunna want to make a new radio, hboot and recovery just like every other update, that means were months away from the update not days like some ppl think, can we please sort this out befor the desire forum gets ruined with spam
Congratulations on starting another one.
Richy Freeway said:
Congratulations on starting another one.
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this thread has nothing to do with froyo, its trying to get mods to clean up the desire section
i'm inclined to agree with this sentiment, we should have a discussion thread and then once its finally released we can have as many as we want
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Congratulations on starting another one.
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I have to agree with this. You have just opened a pointless thread to have a rant. The fact froyo is in the title, people will now use it to discuss why it's not out, and when they will have it, and whether or not it will make their washing machine spin faster.
If you feel so strongly about the threads, then use the report a post button and bring them to the mods attention.
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I have to agree with this. You have just opened a pointless thread to have a rant. The fact froyo is in the title, people will now use it to discuss why it's not out, and when they will have it, and whether or not it will make their washing machine spin faster.
If you feel so strongly about the threads, then use the report a post button and bring them to the mods attention.
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its not a rant its an idea, and its 10 times more productive than urs and that other blokes post, fyi you cant report a post unless its spam or breaking the rules
I'm fairly sure that the rules state you should read and search before posting, all the pointless froyo threads would fall into that category.
Report away
that rule would count for half the posts on the website tho lol plus the search sucks on xda, ive spent hours searching for a thread that i knew existed lol
This is a good idea. It works well on other forums - Ubuntu forums, for instance, have a 'recurring discussions' section for each forum where similar threads are bunched together (usually *****ing about Mono, or comparing Ubuntu to OSX/Windows).
What we really need is a "Rumours" subforum, for all the b/s Froyo/Update threads!
That way, they can still be posted, but I can safely ignore them!
Regards,
Dave
Some such solution would be very welcome. Currently, it is quite pathetic.
As for the search before posting... every second/third day I'm seeing the same issues with new threads here. This is the worst I've seen on any well established forum since 1999 back in the Icrontic days. On the last such occurrence, the OP says he's searched and read countless threads while two threads below covers the same issue perfectly. This is just inane.
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How stupid. If people want to start a thread, than its upto them. Post away all froyo froyo..... froyo
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I totally agree about deleting all the pointless threads.
Some of them are from stupid newbies who are too lazy to even look 2 threads down let alone do an actual search!
Froyo threads should be deleted and anyone starting one until HTC makes an announcement should get a week ban.
There is already a FROYO discussion thread which is fine to discuss the OS / features etc, but not constant posts by idiots asking for release dates and what not.
I agree... i think we should stop all this speculation regarding the official OTA update of Froyo on the Desire. It has recently been confirmed that the update will be around Q3 of this year, and i think it's pointless for people to continue to post threads about it. We just have to be a little more patient and hope it will arrive in time.
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I would more than welcome a stronger hand by the moderators. Failing that, a chit-chat/rumors section, but I think if people are so dumb to post this stuff 10x times, they are bound as well to post it in the wrong section (see the degree of spamming of the development section).
And NO - this thread is very useful and relevant, I would have started myself
Sorry, just tripped over this thread. Is Froyo out yet? I heard it was due to be released on the 29th Feb next year.
*runs and hides!*
Hi sort of agree, however this is the 'General' desire forum - where anything can be discussed! But yes a rumour or one thread for rumours update at the top may help.
However where do you draw the line??? look how many other threads repeat the same things!
I dont think its so bad in general section - I sort of expect it here - plus freedom of speach and no forum gestapo is nice
daern said:
Sorry, just tripped over this thread. Is Froyo out yet? I heard it was due to be released on the 29th Feb next year.
*runs and hides!*
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The lastes new from htc is that the froyo rollout will start sometime during, the 3rd quater of this year
Moderation on this forum is poor - there are so many repetative threads that its becomming full of the same old thing day after day. Many are not adhering to the rules of the forum - search first and if you dont find your answer then ask! Carrying out searchs on this forum now means that information is spread across so many discussion threads that it becomes non effective; maybe a reason why new threads are now starting up each day asking the same question?
In order to ensure this forum is useful, comprehensive and easy to search, surely its not too much to ask?
Just a thought - i dont think i have ever seen a mod edit, apart from moving of a thread - not like the HD2 forum!
ardsar said:
Moderation on this forum is poor - there are so many repetative threads that its becomming full of the same old thing day after day. Many are not adhering to the rules of the forum - search first and if you dont find your answer then ask! Carrying out searchs on this forum now means that information is spread across so many discussion threads that it becomes non effective; maybe a reason why new threads are now starting up each day asking the same question?
In order to ensure this forum is useful, comprehensive and easy to search, surely its not too much to ask?
Just a thought - i dont think i have ever seen a mod edit, apart from moving of a thread - not like the HD2 forum!
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when i used to have a htc hd, the forum had two mods and they was always about, and they used to comment on threads and keep the forum clean ect, i dont think xda give a **** about the android forums
I give it up, this thread is already moved to second page by useless threads.
Check my signature for the truth and some really useful stuff.
There's no point of making a whole new sub-forum for S-OFF.
It would help to have an active moderator, renaming topics, and applying conventions like [S-ON] / [S-OFF] tags, as well as fusing discussion threads.
Some more recent info like a "Read First Sticky Thread" (if it is ever read by newbies) would also be good.
But what to expect, we are low activity? If we were an US State we would be Alaska
This is pointless. People should know how to apply a tag to the start of their topic title. If they can't manage that, they probably wouldn't manage to post in the right sub-forum either.
Bump. The moderator isn't dead: he deleted the 1 star thread about lololol s-off for a510e, I've asked him in PM.
So we can move things over, we just have to pm him friendly!
It will maybe bring us back to main forum. It isn't a wonder why we're moved to legacy, only questions for s-off.
Other phones have in general useful tips to improve phone, repair phone or other things.
Just my thoughts
This is stupid. Will leave out people with S-ON even more than they are already, we don't want a divide, we all want S-OFF.
Right, and better is to insert your energy to find more devs to find a way to unlock!
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I have the Droid DNA but merely a year and a half in to it I've lost OS upgrade support from Verizon and HTC. If I upgrade to the One M8
1. Is it a good phone?
2. Will the same thing happen to the One that happened to DNA in only a year?
3. Is there root available?
Thanks in advance
Dude sorry to bash you and say this...but these questions are the most stupid someone ever asked...read through these threads/forum here and you see there is root otherwise there wouldn't be any Roms and kernels and whatever and if you would really read more about HTC news etc you would see this phone is superior and the update support will be 24 month or so active...so please never ask again such questions lol
And post questions in the Q&A section....not the general. What do you think Q&A stands for ?
1: do you think its a good phone
2: ask HTC
3: obviously....if you would have taken the time to check the many threads that cover root questions......
Thread moved to Q&A and Closed
All the answers you'll need are found above and would've easily been found if you'd even only had a quick look through the M8 forum.
Besides, asking a bunch of people who already have this phone whether you should buy this phone is pretty much guaranteeing you one response.
I'll close this as the answers are already here and because pesky trolls love threads like this and I'd rather not use too much troll repellent
Regards,
- KidCarter93
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