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Hi all..!
This Thread,we will talk about the softwares you want update in next V3 B&B
You write the softwares you want in V3.I will update it in V3 B&B
Thanks all..!
Tom
Let me have the pleasure of being the first to thank you and to request that you include the voip you previously posted. It works great.
I also think that adding the utility Shaun33 created in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303493&highlight=sipgate
is a nice idea to include. There is no other way to configure the SIP settings other than creating an XML file, making it a cab and installing it. So this should complete everything needed to be able to use voip on WM6.
May I also suggest that we keep it simple as well, I mean not to overcrowd this little bugger with so many things after all.
Many thanks in advance and I look forward to seeing this ROM being cooked, I'm actually getting a little hungry
Cheers.
ricky200 said:
Let me have the pleasure of being the first to thank you and to request that you include the voip you previously posted. It works great.
I also think that adding the utility Shaun33 created in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303493&highlight=sipgate
is a nice idea to include. There is no other way to configure the SIP settings other than creating an XML file, making it a cab and installing it. So this should complete everything needed to be able to use voip on WM6.
May I also suggest that we keep it simple as well, I mean not to overcrowd this little bugger with so many things after all.
Many thanks in advance and I look forward to seeing this ROM being cooked, I'm actually getting a little hungry
Cheers.
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Update WM6 SIP Config Tool by Shaun33 and VoIP now....
Cheers..!
terminal client ou remote desktop
terminal client ou remote desktop it 's possible?
thanks
Genius rom....
Oooh i get to be first :-D..
Im on v.2 and this rom is really amazing guys!!..
I would love a barebone version without all apps.. And without wm plugin, it has been put out of use with audiomanager. Please please consider this ....
I cant backup via sprite backup too, same dillemma as SiperX.
pzenou said:
terminal client ou remote desktop it 's possible?
thanks
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Remote Desktop ?
I will try it.I thinks no problem..!
Hey Tom,
I think many of us would appreciate bug fixes before app additions.
I got this installed on my XDA Orbit today and works nicley but a few bugs. Such as When i turn wi-fi on, it comes on, but wont load any webpages, and acts like theres no connection, but its fully connected to my wifi at home.
Also the message alert pop up doesnt match the cool sleek design, its the old white and blue colors and looks horrible.
Maybe you should have a proper bugs thread and get these cleaned up before adding apps?
Thanks!
Had this idea to enhance the sleekness of the interface, not sure if you can incorporate this:How about changing the background in settings - programs to touch black and with white fonts?:. Or even if its possible assign the background image?... This would be all new
Tom, very cool I'm sure no matter how you cook this it'll taste good at the end
Cheers.
Hi Tom,
I've been following this thread since the beginning, the only thing that I miss is my native language support. I have a German HTC P3300 and would be happy to use it in that language, I don't even mind if the other addons are in English.
Apart from that, my critical apps are Wisbar Advance, SPB Mobile Shell and SPB Diary. But since those are all commercial apps it wouldn't be wise to include them.
How about a tutorial how to add custom apps or creating the ROM?
Marcus
ricky200 said:
Tom, very cool I'm sure no matter how you cook this it'll taste good at the end
Cheers.
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Interesting with you
Registerme said:
Hi Tom,
I've been following this thread since the beginning, the only thing that I miss is my native language support. I have a German HTC P3300 and would be happy to use it in that language, I don't even mind if the other addons are in English.
Apart from that, my critical apps are Wisbar Advance, SPB Mobile Shell and SPB Diary. But since those are all commercial apps it wouldn't be wise to include them.
How about a tutorial how to add custom apps or creating the ROM?
Marcus
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I will try v3 with German and Dutch.Hope it works..
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I will try v3 with German and Dutch.Hope it works..
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One thing I hate is always to reinstall all the apps I want on a new Rom.
Is it possible to make 1 cabfile for all the apps I want and put it in fe an extended rom? So after putting a new rom on my device it will install all the apps I wanted automatically? But I think if this works, the next problem will that I still need to register all the apps manually, or is there way to do this automatically too?
Cheers
Tom, thanks for all your good work sofar, great job.
When you ask 100 people which program's they like to include in the ROM, you probably will get also 100 different replies. So I second the idea of assembling a barebone ROM (so without one single extra program but hopefully with as less bugs as possible), and a tutorial so that everybody can cook their own unique personal ROM.
I would love a Reg Editor
international
Very good Tom !!
Like I said in the different thread I am ready to translate in french as you which ...
yep, like someone suggested above..make a barebone rom and at all the new faitures with extra cab files. I installed the first rom..then installed all my applications..then installed the second rom..yet again installed all my application etc.
so with every new rom, i can start all over again.
Just make a bare rom with just the essentials and let everybody make a wishlist
and let them choose the cabfiles they like to install.
looks more professional then
btw..great rom ..maybe now i keep my artemis instead of my daily hunt for the exclusiv benq p51 with sdcart, a full keyboard and 320*240 res.
Tom, in your new build can you remove the values from the 1 and 2 keys in HKLM/Comm/RTC/AdapterTypes leaving the keys in place that is please? This seems to have cleared out some issues in regards to voip as Sleuth255 has stated especially if they haven't been set in the first place.
Thanks.
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Hi all..!
This Thread,we will talk about the softwares you want update in next V3 B&B
You write the softwares you want in V3.I will update it in V3 B&B
Thanks all..!
Tom
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Hi Tom, First of all Thank You for giving us Great ROMs.
-Some people like the V3 will be loaded with all the goodies.
-Some people don't, i hope you will be release the Vanilla version (No body Fat version). if you not going to release the Vanilla version, how do i uninstall the extra software.
I'm M700 user. in V2 I have an issue with appointment schedule.. its keep repeating itself. after i check over and over again.. its nothing to do with the reminder setup. probably a minor bug.
Other than that your ROM is completely THE BEST! M700 work flawlessly!
Thanks for evrything.
Hi TOM! Cobalt78 is right, why can't we translate it in french too. I got some files but I don't really know how to do it. If somebody can help me. I got some french files like PPC_FRA_GSM_VGA_VR.BIN but I don't know which one to use for translation.
Hi,
Like in the topic, I'am looking for WM6 ROM which is not worse than official wm6 (Dopod810 I believe). What I mean is that every time (unless I missed something) when a new cooked ROM is released everyone is so excited. Few minutes later new posts appear in which people report problems with: battery, activesync, missed phonecalls etc etc
I would like to have a blank WM6 with some basic apps like office, mms... and that's all. The rest will be installed by myself. And the most important stable.
I want to avoid situation when I install wm6, my favorite software, setup everything just to turn out that something doesn't work as it should be.
Hi Arti -
Have you considered cooking your own ROM?
I´m sure you are gonna get a lot of help with that kind of attitude,cook your own one and you make it your way and the most important "bug-free"
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I´m sure you are gonna get a lot of help with that kind of attitude,cook your own one and you make it your way and the most important "bug-free"
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Big lol to this!!!
I dont want to say that ppl here do a bad job...but not even microsoft people manage to do this (bug free) what makes u think that he will?
Just kiding..
Cheers
Thanks for all replies, I respect all cookers work. It's obvious that each software has bugs that's absolutely normal.
I just wanted to ask for Lite version (or even very lite) of WM6 rom.
arti121 said:
Thanks for all replies, I respect all cookers work. It's obvious that each software has bugs that's absolutely normal.
I just wanted to ask for Lite version (or even very lite) of WM6 rom.
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How lite do you want it, you can take a fairly standard rom and rip all the crap out like the media stream player, office, dumb images and useless wav files etc and have a fast stable ROM that leaves you heaps of free space to add all those unstable bits. So just hunt around for a lite version or try doing it yourself(and thats part of the fun having such a great toy like the dopod 810), you don't need to be that brave because of hard spl's and kitchens, etc that have been created by the guys around these forums, to help protect against wrecking your phone.
Try hypercore kitchen its pretty friendly and works well for trinitys.
Would be nice if there was one joint effort to take the very latest WM6 build and run it through testing and fixing all the basic functionality (battery life, voice/video calling, battery life, sms, emails, wifi, drivers.....ect.....) specific to Trinity.
This way anyone who wants to make their own unique rom with customized additions would have a base stable build on the Trinity to work with and if something was fixed in the base rom, it would be easier for anyone cooking a rom of this build to implement that fix. This would make for more stable releases all the way around.
Hi Shoey -
Um, so which dialer is best? Which contact manager? Which task manager? Which radio? You have to install at least one of each for the phone to be operable.
The dialers, contact managers, etc. tend to be based on personal preference, so good luck getting everyone to agree. Heck, there's a lot of disagreement on which build of WM6 is the best!
The radio versions in some cases have to be matched to the software being used by the specific user's telecom company, which is why some people have problems using some of the radios. If the telecom isn't using the newest software in their cell towers, then the newest radio ROMs might not work well.
Also, in what language do you write this "base" ROM? So far I've seen English, Spanish, French and German on this board.
You have to realize, this board is a collection of individiuals who share an interest in modifying the bejeezus out of their phones. Tryng to get some committee structure set up to set standards is probably a lost cause. Kinda like herding cats.
This is one situation where people have gone to absurd lengths to make it easy for you (se Bepe's kitchen and Hypercore kitchen, I'm amazed at the time they've put in to help the rest of us, and appreciative), but I don't think anyone's going to build your own special ROM for you. If you want something specific, I think you're going to have to build it yourself.
Good luck!
landshark: I'm talking about stabalizing basic functionality with the Trinity hardware. Get the standard things working first, fix all known issues to get WM6 working properly. After that people can base their preferences on something more stable. What's the point of releasing 3 roms with 3 different dialiers which all have different bugs not dependant on the dialer but the rom it's installed on top of.
As for which language to base it off of, doesn't matter, once you have a base rom, people can localize it to make base roms for each language. Would make it easier for someone to release their rom under different languages.
Really what I'm getting at is joint effort to get a stable WM6 build working on the Trinity would be better than 20 buggy roms. Not to take anything away from anyone releasing WM6 roms, there wouldn't be any WM6 if not for them.
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landshark: I'm talking about stabalizing basic functionality with the Trinity hardware. Get the standard things working first, fix all known issues to get WM6 working properly. After that people can base their preferences on something more stable. What's the point of releasing 3 roms with 3 different dialiers which all have different bugs not dependant on the dialer but the rom it's installed on top of.
As for which language to base it off of, doesn't matter, once you have a base rom, people can localize it to make base roms for each language. Would make it easier for someone to release their rom under different languages.
Really what I'm getting at is joint effort to get a stable WM6 build working on the Trinity would be better than 20 buggy roms. Not to take anything away from anyone releasing WM6 roms, there wouldn't be any WM6 if not for them.
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I agree 100% with you. However,if it's executable or not...that's a different issue...
Bye
shoey5 said:
landshark: I'm talking about stabalizing basic functionality with the Trinity hardware. Get the standard things working first, fix all known issues to get WM6 working properly. After that people can base their preferences on something more stable. What's the point of releasing 3 roms with 3 different dialiers which all have different bugs not dependant on the dialer but the rom it's installed on top of.
As for which language to base it off of, doesn't matter, once you have a base rom, people can localize it to make base roms for each language. Would make it easier for someone to release their rom under different languages.
Really what I'm getting at is joint effort to get a stable WM6 build working on the Trinity would be better than 20 buggy roms. Not to take anything away from anyone releasing WM6 roms, there wouldn't be any WM6 if not for them.
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Ok, no one's stopping you. I'm sure people will be appreciative of your efforts.
http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
Black6spdZ said:
http://ppckitchen.org/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=frontpage&Itemid=55
Is it me or does it seem like there is no central development anymore? Does anyone remember the WEB based kitchen for the original XDA??
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Totally agree man, We are left with scrounging to collaborate a good kitchen from all the generous chefs around here. (No intended as a knock to chefs)
And then fending for ourselves on if issues arrise. I mean i understand everyones very busy with their own lives but these guys on PPCkitchen got it going on man!!
interesting
Looks very interesting, can't install it at my work pc but will try it first thing tonight when I get home.....Are there certain models this works on??
(I read a little bit around the site so if that question is answered I will locate it)
Dave
I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
CRCinAU said:
I haven't released the kitchen I built as it's mainly re-written for my own development...
It takes a good use of cygwin, bash, perl, shell scripts, windows exe files, and more... Having all this setup for the average joe would be a nightmare to support!
So, I just keep plodding on and releasing ROMs
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms,I've been using bepe's but they don't work on the newer roms. or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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I've been trying to get started mixing a few kitchens but i keep getting stuck dumping roms.. what tools do you use to dump roms, or do you obtain your "meat" already dumped?
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It really depends... sometimes it's official NBH's, others it's from an NBH from a different device, sometimes it's a rip direct from the phone (ie Part02.raw), other times it's just a SYS directory...
As there's no more official development for the Hermes, it comes down to what you can find
A nice bit of generosity from the sources of the builds would be good. Unfortuatly this has NEVER been the case and its a matter of "who you know" if you want to get hold of builds for a kitchen. The pandora series of kitchens was the daddy when it was alive.
Ive personally given up cooking my own ROMs since getting hold of a ROM build is difficult.
CRCinAU has bodged together a working stable ROM from several other devices and has ported all the bits over, whereas others have access to a build ready-made. He has done ALOT of work to get the ROMs working, alot more than the other chefs i might add since the majority of the work is porting in his case.
Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Shame the builds arent shread more since they ARE out there but being withheld rather selfishly.
My 2p.
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Yknow there are many cooks out there releasing different builds to which i am very grateful for. and i'm very noobish but it seems like if we could dump builds from others like for example the latest PDAviet build.
If i could dump that properly and then build it into my own would be very cool but i'm stumped at the dumping part. I think if we could have a fixed tool that properly dumps .bin without overlap errors then we could probably jump in on the cooking bandwagon and participate, other than scrounging for pieces from here and there.
As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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As for my last comment, It appears i received a answer finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2418428&posted=1#post2418428
He says it's basically impossible to dump a pdaviet rom.
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Yep, its quite easy to build an nb which cannot be dumped....yet another way to stop people using the build inside. Im sure there is a good reason but from what i can see its merely to stop people releasing thier own ROMs, the pandora kitchens showed that most people used it to customise a ROM for thier own needs rather than release a ROM.
I am absolutely no specialist (only experienced a lot of trial and error), but what I can say to people looking for building themselves a kitchen from new builds is that they must perform a little porting from "live" devices that keep receiving updates. Getting your hands on an originally shipped ROM is essential as CRC said before.
For now the "easy" one is Kaiser and it is not very complicated if one was used to bepe's kitchen before. Search for EasyPortOven that comes handy is this case. Porting from newer devices like Diamond, Raphael is more complex due to resolution (at least) and people that have done it can have a word here maybe.
This is also a good reason why I spend most of the time in this forum over at the Kaiser section. It is more alive.
Good tips and discussion! We do have some kitchens available in our forum. Although finding a good kitchen here is sometimes like pulling the teeth! This is the truth back when i had my wizard too!
What can I say mr. mrvanx, I totally agree with you. Pandora has shown us a way to customize the ROM's as per our own needs, and that gave all of us freedom of choice. My last build with Pandora was the fastest one at that time, which made me quite happy.
I would be very grateful to who ever will release an updated kitchen for us. The kitchen from Tyr0 is a very good one and fast. But I wanted to get a newer one, that will contain updated clock.exe, UsbToPc.exe (with possibility to have my TyTN as a Usb Drive), clean E & G icons and other nice features that the latest ported builds have.
I hate when ROM' Chefs believe that by releasing a kitchen, everyone will be making money on them and not give any credit to the initial builders and share money received. Perhaps there is a good reason for that, but WHY PAY you guys (rom chefs) when instead of solving problems of one build you are actually jumping onto another and release a new ROM. You are asking for so called "donations", but you don't give us, simple users, any support for "your" freshly cooked builds. We are still facing the problems with IrDA, Bluetooth and constant freezes or hard resets. But it seems that you don't give a damn thing about it, and continue to ask for donations.
Look at mattk_r, he supported Pandora Kitchen until it has gotten to a perfect point. There were no issues whatsoever, and ROM performed so great that it was a pleasure to spend a few hours just to build my own rom one day.
Too bad the development has stopped right before the new builds started to come out.
I admire CRCinAU as I have tried every single ROM he has build and I've seen how much effort he put in his "creations". Most of them performed very well for me. But, I like ROM's to be as small as they can be; without any additional software/pictures/sounds/never used OEM apps etc. That's why I have stopped on Tyr0 v.1.2 ROM, which at the moment suits me quite well.
CRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
Yknow what would be sweeet
If we had a kitchen, that was updateable like in the first post. That could easily port other builds (Maybe having easyportoven built in).
a bunch of SYS folders from recent builds
People that want to play with porting may want to check this thread for SYS builds:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402752
I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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WCRCinAU, if you don't mind of course, I would love to see a kitchen from you based on your latest release. It doesn't have to have all the OEM additional apps, as I believe everyone of us has them all. But it would be nice to have Bigstorage ROM in it's initial version, with the option (if possible of course) to remove some of the OEM apps such as Welcome Center, Error Reporting, Clear Storage etc. What would you say?
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As I've said here, I don't think it'd be wise for me to release a kitchen as I've hugely customised it for my needs... This means you need cygwin + perl + bash etc installed on windows for it to work correctly. It would also take me quite some time to convert it back into a simple kitchen for someone else to use.
As far as the average person goes, this would be way beyond them. I don't mind if someone builds one based on the dump of my ROM - MRH ROMs are built exactly this way...
veyka said:
I admire the work the many chefs on this forum put out there work has made my device so much better.
I love CRC's roms, but I was wondering if there is a way to strip out OEM stuff, I like my roms as clean as possible from flash, maybe with the options to put stuff back in with UC if its wanted.
(I hate the HTC button task manager for example)
I have though about trying to cook a rom myself, but its far to complex for me dig around and find what I would need, one, large, thread would be perfect.
Maybe if people want to make sure you give credit, they could add a hard coded boot screen or summit?
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I believe that most of the cheffs here don't do a lite ones because of the users complains saying "after installing this or that oem software, the phone start to slow down on speed" and starr requesting those oem cooked in.
19960 build
OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
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OK guys. Here's a working Hermes SYS and XIP folders that you can use with your existing kitchens.
http://uploaded.to/?id=6eyuot
Good luck with it and happy cooking
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Dude! U rock!! is this big storage?
I don't understand why people do so...
What's wrong with the default ROM that the device was released on? I'm new to all this and I want to know what's so hot about flashing to a new ROM? Is it basically just a different theme for the device? Or is it specific applications that you need/want because it's cool to have?
Someone let me know what's so good about it because from reading the forum all of this stuff is confusing! HDSPL, SSPL and all that...huh??? Lol
I'm new to all of this and I just want some information because I'm looking forward to getting the new TP2 for T-Mobile. Maybe if I get a better idea why you guys do it and how do you do it, I can learn and do these myself when I get my TP2.
Thanks guys!
Well
On my experience cooked ROM´s by our great chefs here are always much better than the custom ROM´s
They include stuff/apps/ etc. that normally is not included by default.
Actually if this site with their great chefs wouldn´t exist WM OS would be bad as hell!
So the best way is to read the Wiki to understand all the terms and procedures and then try one cooked ROM by yourself, you won´t regret!!
I think that for tp2 there is not yet any cooked ROM, but sure they will apear soon! (if not already )
Orb is correct check out the Rom section and read the "stickies" for further flashing details
Aight cool, thanks for the replies guys.
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Well
On my experience cooked ROM´s by our great chefs here are always much better than the custom ROM´s
They include stuff/apps/ etc. that normally is not included by default.
Actually if this site with their great chefs wouldn´t exist WM OS would be bad as hell!
So the best way is to read the Wiki to understand all the terms and procedures and then try one cooked ROM by yourself, you won´t regret!!
I think that for tp2 there is not yet any cooked ROM, but sure they will apear soon! (if not already )
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I think WM still would be great without chefs doing what they do. I mean WM6.5 looks great and WM6.1 is good. Yeah the older WM was horrible! Lol
I will probably get a different ROM only for apps because WM6.5 looks great and should run great like I said. Other then that I'm not interested really!
This is a great community, but why is so hard to find a really clean rom for Touch Diamond? I mean, you cook a rom, spend hour and hour to make it work, fix it with strange registry entry and then?
Then you:
- ruin it with ugly icon set/missing icons
- you put in it unuseful software or bloatware
- customize it with boot screen & animations with your name/nickname/name of your pet
I'm saying this because I've tried tons of rom and NO one rom is really clean and light as it should be. This is the same reason why you (and I) hate the personalized windows installation one can find on many warez site.
There is no sense in it. Software will be update, icons are beauty for you, maybe not for me. Some software could be useful to you, not for me. And you pretend donation! I know what you are thinking: why not developing your own rom? Of course I have no so much time and no skill to make it work. And I can't find an updated guide to follow. For sure, my rom would be:
- light
- no personalization at all
- no software in it
- supporting UC
I think this is the right way to go: only base software, support for UC in order to quick install your cab software or settings. I would donate for such a rom.
Agree? Thank you and sorry for the long post/my english.
I think this is because these ROMs are custom ROMs published to others. XDA is not a company to build the clean ROMs, it is just the forum of users. Everyopne can build your own ROM if you are able to, some kitchens are published. That is not so hard to remove unwanted stuff...
Mbiba
true ..
totaly agree with you ..
had the same problem when moved over to hd2. from all the customization and make-up cannot use the phone for normal work .. even when flashed "basic-reference" rom even THAN the wallpaper was some (for me) ugly and the clock was customized. so where is the "basic" ?
thats why you need to search and choose from the all the "evil" around .. the smallest one .. i wont say what rom, but there is rom for diamond that even it is customized, you are able to turn OFF all the customization and make-up, and have stock-like low mem usage rom.
i agree that it is not you were asking for, but .. is there another solution ? except flashing stock rom .. that we all agree is slower then custom cooked.
cheers
you guys can try the old aztor x2 ultimate rom. it is like the official rom with tweaks...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417&highlight=aztor
but keep in mind that the diamond is an old device, there are no more updates from htc. there is no official 6.5 but tons of ultra light roms without customized icons ... flash one of those and install all your programms.
X
Stop whinging like a baby
Dont like the ROMs here, or too lazy to find one that suites your needs, then either *** off, or make your own
Thats like walking into an estate agents and complaining that "Yea you have loads of houses, but why have they all got different carpets, and decor, boohoo why cant you make all the house builders build them all to MY standards"
Sorry buddy, people in this forum have different tastes, its not all about you you you
go somewhere else or make your own
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Stop whinging like a baby
Dont like the ROMs here, or too lazy to find one that suites your needs, then either *** off, or make your own
Thats like walking into an estate agents and complaining that "Yea you have loads of houses, but why have they all got different carpets, and decor, boohoo why cant you make all the house builders build them all to MY standards"
Sorry buddy, people in this forum have different tastes, its not all about you you you
go somewhere else or make your own
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Stop replying as a baby. If you don't like this thread, simply ignore it. And, btw, it's not MY need, many people would love such a rom.
Gremo said:
Stop replying as a baby. If you don't like this thread, simply ignore it. And, btw, it's not MY need, many people would love such a rom.
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Have you even looked around ? There are plenty of "Clean" ROMs
Hey some are even NAMED "Clean" lol what are the chances of that ?
magicdave26 said:
Have you even looked around ? There are plenty of "Clean" ROMs
Hey some are even NAMED "Clean" lol what are the chances of that ?
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Are you asking me if I tried them? Of course I did, many of them, but "clean" was just and only the name. It was a waste of time. Either weird icon packages, crap software, slowness & memory leak and many many other problems...
I'm not just asking "you HAVE to cook only clean vanilla rom", just respect other users and their preferences and let people download also the kitchen, included a saved vanilla rom. So hard? So difficult? E.g:
Fresh 6.5.x wm:
- sense rom
- titanium rom
- no gui at all rom (just in case you love spb for example)
Of course no need of software in it, apart from ezinput, camera, and few others really required.
You will be happy if windows would come with, say, firefox, ccleaner, and an explorer replacement?
I have to partially agree with the topicpaster, ofc noone makes you use the roms, many chefs put a lot of work, and cudos to them, but the roms aren't always the way they are advertised, some time passed since I moved from diamond to HD2, but I still have my diamond with a crappy bootscreen (yeah I'm too lazy to search how to remove it, though noone advertized that it'd be changed, and flashing new roms doesn't solve it, not a big deal, but it's just one example...)
romka.t said:
I have to partially agree with the topicpaster, ofc noone makes you use the roms, many chefs put a lot of work, and cudos to them, but the roms aren't always the way they are advertised, some time passed since I moved from diamond to HD2, but I still have my diamond with a crappy bootscreen (yeah I'm too lazy to search how to remove it, though noone advertized that it'd be changed, and flashing new roms doesn't solve it, not a big deal, but it's just one example...)
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Don't be lazy..
just download ervius kitchen and cook anything you want...
there's Gen.Y that is barely a stock rom with sense 2.5. you can use that one,it has no customization at all. and there's also a lot of kitchens released around,people spend time preparing them and making them as easy to understand as possible. you can just download one,disable what you don't need and cook your own clean rom.
yngieaxl said:
Don't be lazy..
just download ervius kitchen and cook anything you want...
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that wasn't my point, and I suppose the original post's point... as I had mentioned, not a big issue...
I do understand that a person that has developed smth, always (mostly) tries to leave a signature of some kind, that's totally ok, but a figure of common sense would be mentioning that
Partially agree, too, but, we must be thankful with the chefs, they make ROM's according to their use, likes and more, so, they don't custom a ROM for you, it's like a car, you can like the outside, the inside, the engine, the power, etc... but, rarely you will like all from that car.
The truth is that when you don't like something is to make something to like it (to make your own ROM), but that doesn't mean anything critic towards you.
I have tried hundred of ROM's, and of course some are horrible in letters, menu, icons, work, speed, etc... but I have found on Ralphusion ROM the best ROM for my needs (TELEPHONE WORK), fast and stable.
All depends on what people want, a ROM to play, games, internet, etc... but... Diamond is limited on hardware, so why to make Sense 2.5 if we can have a super fast ROM with Titanium and have a TELEPHONE (it is not a GPS, it is not a Nintendo DS, it is a telephone....)
By the way, the thread is a good idea, all we have thought about this in some time, but you have explained writing it, so, good idea, maybe some good chef will create the PERFECT STABLE AND FAST ROM FOR DIAMOND, a device that is what it is.... They can call to the project something like.... WHAT HTC SHOULD HAVE DONE FOR ITS DEVICE.
Thanks everybody, best regards.
i dont really want to "advertise" my ROM but i you should try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786088
and as far as sense 2.5 on diamond is concerned it just doesnt make much sense
i dont understand why people ignore sense 2.1 its more suited to diamond's hardware
Gremo said:
For sure, my rom would be:
- light
- no personalization at all
- no software in it
- supporting UC
I think this is the right way to go: only base software, support for UC in order to quick install your cab software or settings. I would donate for such a rom.
Agree? Thank you and sorry for the long post/my english.
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I have installed many intalian and english roms on my diamond, if you're searching for a stabe one I suggest you to try the GenY (a bit old) or Fodd.
Both have no customisation (no strange boot screnn, no ugly icons or else), very few software installed and they are fast and stable:
GenY -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521941
Fodd -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=775419
I used GenY a lot with internet connection and also gps, i'm currently using Fodd and it also seems to fit my needs.
give it a try
(sorry for my english, i hope you can get what i'm saying)
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Are you asking me if I tried them? Of course I did, many of them, but "clean" was just and only the name. It was a waste of time. Either weird icon packages, crap software, slowness & memory leak and many many other problems...
I'm not just asking "you HAVE to cook only clean vanilla rom", just respect other users and their preferences and let people download also the kitchen, included a saved vanilla rom. So hard? So difficult? E.g:
Fresh 6.5.x wm:
- sense rom
- titanium rom
- no gui at all rom (just in case you love spb for example)
Of course no need of software in it, apart from ezinput, camera, and few others really required.
You will be happy if windows would come with, say, firefox, ccleaner, and an explorer replacement?
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Genuine Windows, just like Genuine ROMs go hand in hand
If you want to download a custom built ROM or Windows, then you can not complain when there are extras included
Ok I ended up cooking my very first rom, using latest official diamond one (6.1). I spent a couple of hours to figure out dependencies, but finally it works. Nothing special, just original rom without the software. UC doesn't work, don't know why .
Still looking for 6.5.x rom with titanium and no personalization at all. Thanks anyway to all voting "Yes" to the poll.
Are you serious?! You come here and tell the chefs to show you respect and make a Ferrari out of your Fiat? They even let you use their tools so you can create your awesome, unique, clean, fast and whatever you want your rom to be but you are to lazy to learn a few things. Cheffs owe you nothing! Dont blame them, blame yourself! Your attitude is very bad for this community...
The problem with Diamond ROM development is that there is no official "updated" ROM for the phone. The only possible vanilla ROMs for diamond are 6.1, and very little of the software from the 6.1 official ROM can be used for 6.5 ROM development. Any Diamond ROM that runs 6.5 or 6.5.x is built from software ported from other phones, and assembled using that other ROM as a guide. No modern phone has as little RAM as the Diamond. Using a "clean vanilla" build from any modern phone, makes for a bloated 6.5 Diamond ROM.
A stable, "clean vanilla" 6.5 Diamond ROM is a myth.
That said, clever developers can add compression, use lighter graphics (and get yelled at), choose to leave out needed software, and cut less used functionality to save memory. This can introduce bugs, and rile up users. For every user who wants you to remove a "thingy", you have another user who OMGNEEDS that "thingy" in the ROM. You can start adding "thingy" cab packages, but then you have to support and update those packages, which takes away time from development and testing.
Due to a few pushy users, a lot of devs just jump in and make what they want. If the dev happens to be really nice, he or she will make their ROMs available for everyone else to use. Of course, once they do release their ROM, they get criticized for one design choice after another. After enough negative posts and personal messages, it stops being fun. Eventually only the really stubborn and thick skinned devs stick around.
All that aside, there is just very little incentive to do custom ROMs for user requests. I did something like 30 minor revisions of my ROM, and 16 major revisions. I published as many as 10 different flavors from clean to bloated for every revision. I received as many as 3000 downloads for each ROM release... and yet, I never received a single donation. Lucky for me that I was never in it for the money. =)
In any case, best of luck finding your perfect ROM!
I agree with the idea of the post. Clean ROMs are much more nice, since the user can customize it the way he/she wants.
I've not tryied this much number of ROMs in here, but i am currently using Gen.Y R2.6 and i pretty much like it...
Icons are default, no fancy themes, tones, splashes, no visible nicknames all arround. The only thing visible is the bootleader (when powering on), that has an option to load Android (witch i did not install). Start Menu is also not very pratical, but you can revert it to old-style easely
I also agree that a good clean and complete guide on rom cooking would be very nice! there is A LOT info in here, but it's all scattered in thousands of threads...