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Accidentaly put rhodium in washer, can it be saved?

I accidentaly put my rhodium in the washing machine (forgot to check my jeans pockets) and it was in there for a few minutes.
When I noticed I took out the battery, SD card and sim card and dryed everything with a towel. I then put it in a bowl of rice for day (read that tip online somewhere) to drain out any excess moisture.
It seems to be completely dry now from the outside, although I can't say for sure about the insides. It still won't turn on.
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?

you get points for positive thinking.
sorry to say, but your toy has had it.

woeds said:
Any ideas? or is my brand new Rhodium dead?
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Sounds to me like you need to make use of that insurance policy that you sensibly bought for your TP2.

I read somewhere on xda forum that sometimes wet devices would turn on after a couple of days...
If you're not in a hurry, maybe wait some time... but don't hope too much

Wow! got to be more careful next time. This is a very expensive phone. Got to take real good care of it.... "Handle with care"
I guess wait at least 72 hours before turning it on back again and not before that.... else will be RIP.
btw, if your phone is "ON" while in the washer...forget about, get a new one.

One thing to try, sometimes batteries will self destruct and save the phone. Get a replacement and see if it powers up, I know that worked with one I took into the pool a couple years ago.

A hiardryer on very low heat setting normally works quite well for removing moisture

Damn, that's a bummer...
I'd try someone elses battery, but wouldn't expect miracles to happen...

how you didnt know is beyond me! i hope you get it sorted and take more care next time i dont believe it

White rice trick
Here is a trick, take out the battery and put the phone in a bag of white rice. Make sure it's completely covered with rice!. Leave it there for at least 72 hours.
This trick worked on my wife's iPhone. It was revived after being completely dead for 3 days.
Hope it helps.

dam man! thats bad luck!
i hope you use a top brand softener with it other than that it would be sacrilege
one of my phone fell in the toilet once, i removed the battery and took it apart and the washed it with alcohol [not the drinking type] after a day drying it worked just fine.

some phones will work without the battery if connected to the charger. You could try that to see if it's the battery. If you're willing to take it apart there's a spray technicians use to remove all moisture. I've been told never to apply hear (so if you use a hairdryer use one with a cold setting), and yeah, just wait, make sure it's gotten rid of ALL the moisture, and hope for the best. If all the moisture isn't gone, you could short circuit it by trying to turn it on.

My charmer fell into the toilet one evening when I was very drunk. It went of immediately but being too drunk I took it home and left it as it was. The next morning I gave it the hairdryer treatment but it still didnt power up. I threw the phone under my bed and left it for dead. About 4 nights later I woke up at night and I saw 'the light' from under my bed, on closer look my charmer was miraculously switched on. I tried to charge it but it just showed a red light. Later that day I tried again and it started to charge.
The phone went on to serve me without any problems for about 6 more months and I eventually sold it for £80.
Moral of the story; You could get lucky (fingers crossed)

The water itself does not cause the short circuiting. You need purified water to cleans it from the salt and other particles that cause the short circuit.

Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.

solsearch said:
Yes, water itself is not conductive. Everytime we see someone get electrocuted in the movies thanks to a mixture of water and electricity it's because of the electrolytes. But considering that almost no one has truly pure water running through their washer etc, I just simplified. But the reason why you shouldn't apply heat is due to the catalyst factor of heat. Water and metal don't mix (rust, oxidization), and applying heat can accelerate that process. The end of the story is to get it truly dry, don't apply heat, and keep your fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.
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This is true. While it is possible to safe an electronic device after a soaking for a while, once it has been doused in water, unfortunately, its lifespan is already shortened. If you get it working again, it might last a few months, or even a year. But eventually, corrosion WILL claim it. It might be possible to open it up, and clean every contact, every piece of solder, copper or electronic pathway. If you do that, then maybe you can keep it from corroding.
My roommate lost his phone during winter. Come to find out, he had dropped it in the snow When it melted he found it. It was dead for a few days till it dried out. Then it worked again for about 5-6 months then finally died completely due to corrosion.
Good luck.

Saved about 10 different phones, some multiply times and many other electronic devices, from pools, ocean, garden hoses, sprinklers.
Most important thing is to remove the battery, IMMEDIATELY. We are talking seconds the better, don't think, rip it out. The battery will power up the short circuits and cause the damage. Leaving the battery in for only a minute may be enough time to fcuk something.
Ok preparing
Disassemble the phone as much as possible, the more the quicker it will dry. If the water was salty or dirty , wash them under the tap trying to get into everything.( I am serious)
To dry(cook
Test you oven temp is accurate from 40c to 50c with temperature probe. Set temperature to 40c to be safe, 50c if your in a hurry, 45c would be safe, but it's an oven it may randomly jump up 10c??? hence 40 is safe. Around 50-60 some plastics start to deform, ( this I have learnt first hand).
OK spread the parts out on clean metal is best or ceramic plate/s and place the plates in the oven.
Drying time. Depends on the parts and how big they are and if water could be trapped in them.
Bare, open parts, no touching surfaces, keyboards can be pricks. 2-4hours at 50-40c.
Touching parts but nothing complex, i.e. no water stuck between the keyboard parts. 6-9 hours.
Whole phone 1-2 days.

Thanks for all the tips guys. It's still drying out now in a big bowl of rice. I'm going to try to turn it on again tomorrow. A friend of mine has one too, so if it fails to work I'm going to try his battery to see if that's the problem.
I'm using my N95 now, and it sucks :/

Use DISTILLED water to rinse it out, NOT tap water

IT'S ALIVE!
There is water behind the screen though (or between the casing and the screen). Do you think that'll just dry out over time, or do I need to take it apart to wipe it off?

Wet TP2: My experience

My Touch Pro 2 is currently sitting in a bowl of rice while I gather the courage to install the battery and test my methods of drying it out.
Yesterday, my sister walked into the swimming pool with the phone in her back pocket. It only took her a second to realize her error and thankfully I was right there. I popped the battery out without turning on the screen and layed the seperate parts out in the sun for a few hours. When I got home, I dumped the phone into a bowl and filled it with rice in the hopes that the rice would absorb any excess moisture.
This morning, I broke out my tools and broke the phone down, looking for water damage. I found some residual water under the screen, but with so many layers of plastic, I would rather not take it completely apart. To help with this little bit, I placed the phone screen up on the dash of my car for 1 hour. Since sunlight is deadly to a phone, I didn't dare leave it longer.
We have a central heating and air unit outside, so I placed the phone atop the unit outside (it blows warm air from the top) for another hour.
I checked the screen for moisture and can't see any now, but with all of the various layers, it is hard to say for certain.
The last thing I will try is to hook up a universal air pump used for blowing up air mattresses and such to the bowl of rice. With a cover on top and a few vents on the side, I am hoping to blow dry air in and the last remaining moisture out.
If anyone has any other tips or tricks to add, I would be happy to give 'em a shot. I am in no hurry and a few days is worth the wait if it means the chances of the phone recovering are greater with other methods.

If you can create a vacuum (use duct-tape creatively to form a seal between the container* and the universal blower, and have the suction end of the blower making the connection) that would probably be best. Water between button contacts and on the circut board, in my past experience, has been the most lingering after-water problems.
When my blackjack ii took a dive in the doggy dish, it was about a week before it was completely dry, as evidenced by the lack of odd behaviour from the power button. I considered myself pretty lucky in that one. Good luck.
*The best you can probably do for a vacuum container would be to use a good-quality plastic baggy. Cut the zip-lock part off, insert the phone and a folded piece of cardboard to keep the bag from completely colapsing/getting-sucked-up, and duct tape it to the suction end of the universal blower, or even better, the suction end of a cleaned electric leaf blower. -Just a thought.

Update
After allowing the phone to spend yet another night in the bowl of rice (I decided against introducing forced air out of laziness), I plugged the battery back in and tried to boot it up.
The phone did not respond, at all.
I plugged the phone in via the official charger and noticed a momentary blip of the orange LED near the speaker. This seemed familiar, so I pulled the battery out and tried plugging the charger in again: Sure enough, I got the exact same response. The battery was either dead or the phone wasn't recognizing it.
The replacement phone came in Tuesday, but with some medical emergencies in the family, I didn't attempt anything until this evening. I removed the new, charged battery from the replacement phone and put it in the one I have been working on.
Voila! The phone booted straight up with the new battery!
I noticed some residual damage to the dispersal plastic behind the screen as the phone booted with a white background, but once the phone booted completely up, I couldn't see any difference from before the accident.
While I haven't been able to completely test every aspect of the phone, I plan to update this thread once the new battery (buy dot com, ftw!) comes in on Monday.
I am very pleased with the results and it was definitely worth the time and effort I put into the drying process.
If anyone stumbles upon this tiny thread, please keep in mind a few things:
The phone was only briefly immersed in water for about 30 seconds, inside a pocket
After removing the phone from the water, I pulled the battery before turning on the screen
I allowed the phone to dry over the course of five days
I consider the fact that the phone is now working to be a freak coincidence, results are not typical

a friend of mine had his immersed in water for about 3 min before he realized he had it in his pocket....since we are airplane mechanics, we deal with A/C alot, therefore we have a vacuum pump handy for evacuating A/C systems. He put his phone (dunno what kind, it was touch screen though) in to a vacuum chamber ( a glass jar with a hole tapped in the cap to allow for vacuum to be pulled) and pulled a vacuum on it for a day...it is still working and it was 2 months ago. So just an idea, i realize the equipment is not available to everyone, but it worked for him.

planedoc said:
a friend of mine had his immersed in water for about 3 min before he realized he had it in his pocket....since we are airplane mechanics, we deal with A/C alot, therefore we have a vacuum pump handy for evacuating A/C systems. He put his phone (dunno what kind, it was touch screen though) in to a vacuum chamber ( a glass jar with a hole tapped in the cap to allow for vacuum to be pulled) and pulled a vacuum on it for a day...it is still working and it was 2 months ago. So just an idea, i realize the equipment is not available to everyone, but it worked for him.
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This is interesting!
Chemistry suggests that reducing the air pressure to a near vacuum would reduce the temperature needed for the water to evaporate, allowing it to do so at a highly increased rate... but keeping the phone inside an air-tight (and thus water-tight) container would actually prevent the water from escaping.
What am I missing here?

Snarksneeze said:
This is interesting!
Chemistry suggests that reducing the air pressure to a near vacuum would reduce the temperature needed for the water to evaporate, allowing it to do so at a highly increased rate... but keeping the phone inside an air-tight (and thus water-tight) container would actually prevent the water from escaping.
What am I missing here?
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The vacuum pump has a way of letting the vapor out of it in the process of pulling the vacuum...you can see the vapor as it escapes from the vacuum pump and by the time you reach 29.92 or close, you usually never get a perfect vacuum, but close....moisture is mostly gone....let it set, with a set of guages of course (forgot to mention that) monitor the vacuum, anytime it goes below 28-29 or so, turn the pump on again to remove the moisture....untill it holds for several hours making sure its all gone...a little overkill never hurts with these expensive devices.

[Q] Desire + Water = Glitches galore and a couple questions

So I accidentally put my Desire in about half an inch of water upside down. So my ear speaker, my camera lenses and flash and my head phone jack and my external speaker got submerged. It didn't sit in the water very long, probably about 3 seconds but still long enough to make it start doing some weird things. So my problems are that everything has to load everytime I want to use it. If I'm in my messages and I go to my home screen it goes to the white screen with the green HTC letters and I have to wait for it to load everything every time without fail. It also has to load all my messages when I go into them. Another thing that happens is that my power button message opens randomly and for awhile my power button wasn't working and sometimes it doesn't. So my questions for whoever can answer them is what can I do to fix those problems and where are the moisture detection papers in my phone in case I want to get it fixed under warranty? Thanks a lot.

try putting your device in an air tight container, filled with rice. the rice should absorb most or all of the moisture from your device, leave it for 12-24 hours, then boot it up and try again good luck

Anyone else? I would still like to know where the moisture detection strips are and if anyone else can help me. Thanks.

The moisture detection strips are located on the battery near the connectors and on the phone next to the battery connectors... I went swimming with my HTC desire last summer, it was fully submerged for at least 30 seconds (phone was on).. left it to dry for 5 days in dry rice, and 6 months on it still works, do defenitely try drying it further.

There is a third one too.
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The third is inside the actual handset located directly next to the usb port. Of which mine is completely pink.
Thought it might be interesting info for anyone else who manages to water/liquid damage their devices.
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The OP says that he got the upper part submerged, so there is a chance that none of the stickers got red.

That is excellent news. Thanks everyone.

[Q] Drowned Desire :(

Hello,
I accidentally jumped into the water with my desire in my pocket.. I realized it soon so it was underwater just for a few seconds.. It turned itself off straight away.. I quickly took out battery, sim and sd card and let it dry up for about 40 hours. Now I tried to put it together and turn it on but nothing has happened, it seemed dead.. Then I tried to charge the phone, and it managed to turn on right after I plugged it in. Fortunately everything seems to work so far but one thing.. As soon as I unplug it from the charger, it turns off.. The battery is almost fully charged so I suspect I'll need a new one.. Is there something that can be done to save this battery?
btw, it was a normal lake outside, not see or thermal water..
Thanks for every answer in advance,
Adeon

HTC Desire with water
Mate
First thing you should not do, would be to charge your HTC,
as it was full of water inside and therefore you can damage
main board, the heart of your phone.
Now, follow the article included, dismantle your HTC as in
the article, dry everything with a hairdryer and be carefull
with flat cables or with board components.
In both boards carefully remove the small metal covers,
as it can retain water inside, you also use a tooth brush
to clean those areas, but again carefull with components.
Leave digitizer in place and remove display, with hair dryer
try to dry as much water as you can, otherwise, later you
will see spots when display is working.
Try it out and then let me know results.
Regards
John

One X vs water

So last Thursday I dropped my OneX phone into my kitchen sink full of water & soap. It got fully submerged into it for at least 5 sec.
It still worked completely fine the moment i fished it out, but of course i immediately turned it off
Like 30 minutes later, out of of nowhere my phone came back online without me doing anything. I turned it off but it kept rebooting after showing the HTC splash screen. Water must have done something crazy I don't know...
I put in in a bowl with rice hoping it would dry out. In the meantime it kept rebooting for like 1 hour continuously I kept hearing the vibration
After sometime I noticed it was back on the 'unlock simcard screen' so it finally wasn't rebooting anymore. I unlocked the simcard and have been using my phone perfectly normal.
I've noticed some small darker blotches on the right downside of the screen, but those have slowly dissipated too. And today they are completely gone.
I just wanted to share this little story with you, I'm very happy that my One X survived this 'battle' against water haha.

Haha!! Nice to hear it!
Congo man! Srsly! :good:

Clareyboy said:
So last Thursday I dropped my OneX phone into my kitchen sink full of water & soap. It got fully submerged into it for at least 5 sec.
It still worked completely fine the moment i fished it out, but of course i immediately turned it off
Like 30 minutes later, out of of nowhere my phone came back online without me doing anything. I turned it off but it kept rebooting after showing the HTC splash screen. Water must have done something crazy I don't know...
I put in in a bowl with rice hoping it would dry out. In the meantime it kept rebooting for like 1 hour continuously I kept hearing the vibration
After sometime I noticed it was back on the 'unlock simcard screen' so it finally wasn't rebooting anymore. I unlocked the simcard and have been using my phone perfectly normal.
I've noticed some small darker blotches on the right downside of the screen, but those have slowly dissipated too. And today they are completely gone.
I just wanted to share this little story with you, I'm very happy that my One X survived this 'battle' against water haha.
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My wife had an One X but first she dropped it in the toilet. Had to wait a few days to let it dry, but it was OK. Then she dropped it again in a puddle full of water. And what was wierd was it worked. Then these blotches appeared
Then about a day later the screen just would be bright at all!.
I tried taking it apart but to my surprise the battery was so soft and would bend super easy. The insides smelled very bad.
It never worked again but I was surprised it lasted as long as it did!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

I do hope for you it will keep working, but to be honest I doubt it. Water does strange things to electronic components.
It may even work fine for days/weeks or months after being in touch with water, but it suddenly can stop working or have other strange reactions due to corrosion or the chemical compounds reacting that were in the water at the time.
I have experienced this behaviour a lot in water damaged electronics, as I'm helping people with insurance claims in my profession. It's difficult to prove problems are connected to water damage, weeks or months after the accident occurred.
Repair centers normally don't give any guarantee on repairs due to water damage, in my experience. That's due to the fact damage may occur even after weeks or months, and it can never be foretold a repair was 100 percent successful.
So, it certainly still could have problems later in time, although of course I hope you were very lucky this time!
Rice is indeed one of the best things to try in these circumstances, it probably saved your phones life this time! :thumbup:

A couple of months ago I spilt lots of pure alcohol on my HOX.
At first these grey spots on the right bottom side appeared and then after turning it off for about 10 hours they vanished but a big wide line appeared in the left side of the screen starting from the bottom until the middle of the screen.
Other than that the phone worked absolutely fine no problem what so ever.
I send the phone to be repaired (screen replacement) last week and got it back two days later with a new screen and a notice that there was no cost charged as the replacement was done under warranty.......
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A couple of months ago I spilt lots of pure alcohol on my HOX.
At first these grey spots on the right bottom side appeared and then after turning it off for about 10 hours they vanished but a big wide line appeared in the left side of the screen starting from the bottom until the middle of the screen.
Other than that the phone worked absolutely fine no problem what so ever.
I send the phone to be repaired (screen replacement) last week and got it back two days later with a new screen and a notice that there was no cost charged as the replacement was done under warranty.......
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yes because they thought it was a screen failure...htc wrote in the letter that the screen was abnormal so they replaced it with a complete new...but my screen was broken and repaired with just glued glass ...really nice from them to change the whole screen