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I'm asking because, I've used a couple and they all seem to drop after a while of use, requiring you to soft reset eventually. Didn't notice this problem in WM5. My wifes MDA has 25Megs of available program memory at any given moment, and she never resets her device or uses hybernate or clears cache mem unless I do it (and yes, she uses quite a few programs daily). My device starts out at 25Megs and then slowly drops down to about 20, then after a couple more days, down to about 17Megs (that's the lowest I've gotten before I reset). And when it drops this low, I use Clear Tem to clean the cache and other temp folders. And I use Hybernate and I still can't get the memory back up to 20Megs. So is this just WM6 or could it be the ROM I'm using?
I'm currently running Meschle's O2 Premium ROM (which is great BTW). This ROM is much better on memory than some previous ROMs I've used but it does drop down like I mentioned above. Didn't bother me until the other day when I was trying to get some pics of some friends for my picture caller ID. The camera would not open because memory was too low. I had to soft reset. It was quite embarrasing. May have just been a fluke but just wondering. Anyone else notice this?
BTW I do not have the TF Cube installed and only the default contacts manager.
Other programs installed besides what's in the O2 Premium ROM:
Opera Mobile
iSilo (document reader)
Oxford Spanish Dictionary
Conjegator prog
TomTom Nav 6
Used HTC Home page editor to change appearance and icons on home page but I removed the program after changes made
Hmm, haven't noticed this fenomenon.. gues i never had same rom for more that 3 days..
kakainis said:
Hmm, haven't noticed this fenomenon.. gues i never had same rom for more that 3 days..
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I'm thinking it has something to do with HTC Home. I know what you mean about being a ROM junkie. However, I'm trying to find one and perfect it. Currently, Meshle's ROM is the closest I've come.
shawndh said:
I'm thinking it has something to do with HTC Home. I know what you mean about being a ROM junkie. However, I'm trying to find one and perfect it. Currently, Meshle's ROM is the closest I've come.
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I have faced this in most of the ROM's I have flashed...be it B&B or Meschle's or Fracoons or even NikMel's....
I think its something inherrent in WM6....I can say that as I used it in NikMel's and that does'nt have HTC Home and the same problem was there too...
It is typically this issue that makes be jump from one ROM to another - but they all end up the same - no matter how fast you make it by removing items or cleaning the ROM....guess you have to live with it...
devdarshan said:
I have faced this in most of the ROM's I have flashed...be it B&B or Meschle's or Fracoons or even NikMel's....
I think its something inherrent in WM6....I can say that as I used it in NikMel's and that does'nt have HTC Home and the same problem was there too...
It is typically this issue that makes be jump from one ROM to another - but they all end up the same - no matter how fast you make it by removing items or cleaning the ROM....guess you have to live with it...
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OK. I know I'm not alone then.
Not, You aren't alone.
I have tried with all ROM posted here and have the same problem. I have made an own ROM based on original WWE and the same thing.
On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
At the end, soft reset.
natxocc said:
Not, You aren't alone.
I have tried with all ROM posted here and have the same problem. I have made an own ROM based on original WWE and the same thing.
On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
At the end, soft reset.
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Same here!
A daily soft reset restores the initial amount of "program memory". I think it's a WM6 issue too (memory leak somewhere?).
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On WM5 this did happen
Hi,
natxocc said:
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On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
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On WM5 this did happen for some people (including me) and after months, this issue was finally solved.
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
I have just upgraded my ROM to WM6 vanilla 2 hours ago and I am a bit worry about this as I do not want to experience the issue in WM6 again. For now, it has not happened.
Is this thread related to this WM5 issue ?
If this is related, is this possible to have the WM5 fix ported to WM6 ?
Cheers
dxs1 said:
Hi,
On WM5 this did happen for some people (including me) and after months, this issue was finally solved.
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
I have just upgraded my ROM to WM6 vanilla 2 hours ago and I am a bit worry about this as I do not want to experience the issue in WM6 again. For now, it has not happened.
Is this thread related to this WM5 issue ?
If this is related, is this possible to have the WM5 fix ported to WM6 ?
Cheers
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I have been using Meschle's Vanilla for last one week - no issues so far - even the leak is there but not that extensive...I start of with 26.75MB upon softreset and after d aday of using most of the apps incl. calls, tomtom, activesync - I have never really gone down below 20MB - but I do make it a point to use the Oxios closeApp and Hibernate as often as I can...
I reset once in maybe 3-4 days that too if I feel there is a drag...battery life is superb...no complaints whatsoever...
Have no reason to switch ROM's anymore untill I see something that really fancies me...or a RADIO/OS or build upgrade...
Hi everyone!
I own a HTC P3300 and I used B&B 3.7 for a while but I upgraded to the official HTC WM 6 ROM a few days ago. It's sooo slow. I understand that Tom's ROM is a little bit optimized but it can't be that slow with the official ROM.
There are 1000+ files in my Windows folder, is it normal?
Thank you for your help!
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Hi everyone!
I own a HTC P3300 and I used B&B 3.7 for a while but I upgraded to the official HTC WM 6 ROM a few days ago. It's sooo slow. I understand that Tom's ROM is a little bit optimized but it can't be that slow with the official ROM.
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I noticed a significant speed boost from the official WM5 ROM to Tom's WM6 ROMS. Since WM6 is per se more resource hungry than WM5 (especially if you use the Office applications), I can understand that the official WM6 ROM must be quite slow. Besides, the official ROM has less available program RAM, so it can run less apps at a time before getting very sluggish.
I haven't tested it though, so I don't know how slow it should be. When you say it is slow, just how slow do you mean? and how much free program RAM do you have?
There are 1000+ files in my Windows folder, is it normal?
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Yes, sadly.
See the attachment for the memory usage (screenshot made just after a soft reset).
For instance, after a soft reset, I need to wait 3 to 5 seconds between the time I tap the screen (on the start menu, on parameters, on the system tab, ...) and the time it moves/appears.
It's fast just after, but it seems that apps must be in RAM to be quick...
It wasn't that way with B&B!
Yeah I tried the official release also, but I changed it back to a cooked rom very quickly
Once you get used to the speed of the cooked rom, you can't go back.
The great cooks take out all the unnessecary stuff, they change also the page pool, no extended rom installations, newer builds etc, etc... That's why you get more ram and more speed.
My advice is try Meschle's Vanilla 2.0. You will be amazed!
Hey all -
Great forum, and happy to be a member, here's my story, perhaps you can help.
I have just received a TYTN few weeks ago, and I am trying to make the best of it.
So far - I am frustrated, very frustrated!
Why? since I was a Palm OS user, which was so simple and fast, its nothing to compared to windows mobile.
I have tried over the past month several ROMs, per this forum's advice -
1) Black Satin Medium and Light
2) Schap's
3) Faria
4) Shadow 2.1
5) K's
and maybe a few more...the problem is that for each and every one of them I tackled, slowness and major memory problems - ones which forced mt to a soft reset to continue my work.
So what I am looking for - a ROM that will fit my machine's HW, not something too special or packed with apps, something simple that will have the basics, but will be fast and full of memory for programs, over 40 MB after cold boot.
any idea - which one for me?
BTW - up until now, Black Satin Medium was the best option.
I've got a couple of options for you.
#1, SuperDLite by Edhaas is very stable, good with program memory and has lots of storage memory. Has most of the things most people need, and very little fat.
#2, A newer ROM that I have been trying out lately is Shamanix's Ultimate V2 Final. It has a newer base than SuperDLite, and seems to be a very well-polished ROM. However, I have only tried it for about a week and can't speak of how it may fare in the long run.
Give those two a shot. I've a feeling one of them will be to you liking.
Thanks
I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
i use Pandora Naked 9b1 w/Big Storage - WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604
Memory Details:
Storage: 79 w/MMS, 82 w/o MMS
Program: 30
its fast and clean but u have to install progs when u need more dont forget to install .NET CF 3.5 if u wanna add extra progs
ofird said:
I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
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Think of big storage as having an 25 gallon gas tank on your car. Sure, you only drive your car to work and back everyday, so you don't need a very big tank. But who knows? You might want to travel cross country someday.
Anyway, just like there aren't many cars without big gas tanks these days, there aren't many ROMs without big (or super) storage these days.
ofird said:
I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
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With a Lite ROM you may just get a little over 30MB RAM after a cold boot. You will never see anything like 40MB and 50MB is purely in your fantasy.
Thanks
Hi All,
Thank you for the responsiveness, I will give those 3 ROMs a shot.
I simply cannot face the fact that from time to time I run iGo and get a message: "iGo needs at least 6MB to run"...
then I look at the memory usage and see that I have about 4 MB left - I am wondering how come? nothing is running, but there's is probably a Mem leak somewhere which I cannot for see.
I tried also to use Close Apps and Hibernate to free RAM, and I will use MemTools as well.
For now, it seems to be a "complicated and slow" OS for this machine, perhaps WM 5 (what originally came with it) is more appropriate for HTC TYTN (Hermes 200) hardware.
Wanna bet $$??????
ofird said:
Hi All,
Thank you for the responsiveness, I will give those 3 ROMs a shot.
I simply cannot face the fact that from time to time I run iGo and get a message: "iGo needs at least 6MB to run"...
then I look at the memory usage and see that I have about 4 MB left - I am wondering how come? nothing is running, but there's is probably a Mem leak somewhere which I cannot for see.
I tried also to use Close Apps and Hibernate to free RAM, and I will use MemTools as well.
For now, it seems to be a "complicated and slow" OS for this machine, perhaps WM 5 (what originally came with it) is more appropriate for HTC TYTN (Hermes 200) hardware.
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Oh yeah baby, I'd bet that's a mem leak. Hibernate will help, but you had best hunt that sucker down. Check your Today plugins first.
And I think what ultramag was trying to say is that WM6 runs very smoothly on Hermes hardware. I have flashed many WM6 ROMs and there have been some real stinkers - but none were slower than the stock WM5 that was on my device.
Of course, you aren't the first person I have heard of complain that WM6 is slower than his WM5 stock ROM. You are the second. If a fresh install of your WM5 is running smoother and faster than the ROMs I recommended above then I want to know where I can get that ROM.
I think you'll find IGO is the problem. I had it on wm5 and wm6. Its a memory hog. keep clearing all the destination and trip lists and you shouldn't have a problem. This is why I moved to Tomtom 6. Its so much more stable and I've NEVER had a memory problem again. Hope this helps....
Looking at SuperDLite I see a few versions, which one would you reocmmned for speed:
DopodLite1.0HermesWM6.zip
DopodLiteV1.1-6mbPP-WM6.zip
DopodLiteV1.1WM6.zip
DPLHermesWM6V1.2a4mbPP.zip
DPLHermesWm6V1.2a6mbPP.zip
SuperD-LiteWM6Hermes4mbPP.rar
SuperD-LiteWM6Hermes6mbPP.rar
?
Re: speed
They're all quick. Theoretically the 1.2 and Super-D versions may be slightly faster because the windows directories have been minimized. Some people feel the 4mb page pool roms are slightly quicker than 6mb, but I prefer the 6mb (just "feels" better to me). Check the thread for more details.
Have fun!
I used the 1.2 version, its pretty quick, I am missing the "profiles" of V6.1 and the "today" screen features - is there a plgin to add them in?
In addiotn, touchFlo SL does not work on this ROM - any idea why?
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Not sure what the profiles thing is, or what today screen features you're talking about exactly...
If you post a link to Touchflo SL I'll check it out.
I was going to suggest you post these questions on the Super-D thread, but then I see you're the OP and it's your thread to do what you want with!
Best wishes,
Thanks Ed, I will follow you request, so far the ROM is fast and snappy. I have a feeling that WM 6 are doing better on my TYTN then WM 6.1.
Just to clarify - By "profiles" I mean the feature in the today screen which give you the option to "vibrate" the phone ringer by schedule, i.e - if I have a meeting then the phone will automatically switch to vibrate.
Touch FLO (not SL) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143
new PDAVIET wm6.1 rom.
download link:http://rapidshare.com/files/114587901/TRIN_WWE_3.08.61.35_B19213.7z
passhamQuang
mimahitna said:
new PDAVIET wm6.1 rom.
download link:http://rapidshare.com/files/114587901/TRIN_WWE_3.08.61.35_B19213.7z
passhamQuang
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What is in the ROM?
any screen shots?
Any video call button?
Video call solution
Very very very nice , fast and stable rom but always no video call .
If anyone have an idea to activate it ? I need this function for my work and very dammage that i can't keep this Rom.
Thanks
There is "videocall" in the menu.
But still it automaticly starts dialing with the phone skin enabled
Report after using for few hours
Hi all,
I got this Rom installed into my D810 WWE this afternoon. It runs pretty good and seems like doesn't have any error....but then, i found sth about Ram usage that drains pretty fast, what i mean is Ram stays around 25.3-5 after coldboot, then oops it drops to 20 without any applications being launched....that's what i have observed....will come up have more details....
cheerz
queer~dude said:
Hi all,
I got this Rom installed into my D810 WWE this afternoon. It runs pretty good and seems like doesn't have any error....but then, i found sth about Ram usage that drains pretty fast, what i mean is Ram stays around 25.3-5 after coldboot, then oops it drops to 20 without any applications being launched....that's what i have observed....will come up have more details....
cheerz
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That might happen because you have given (or it is like this by default) a lot of KBs for the cache. You can configure this with advance config.
svetbg said:
That might happen because you have given (or it is like this by default) a lot of KBs for the cache. You can configure this with advance config.
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Default is file cache enabled and the size is on auto in this ROM.
I have it running for 2 days now, without a reset and the RAM is on 16.82 MB. In my today screen is date, SPB PhoneSuite and SPB Diary. HTC Manager 2.1 (B33803) is still configured. I haven't installed SPB Mobile Shell and SPB Weather, yet.
It's such a quick ROM, I don't exchange it now for another one. Believe me, I tested all latest OS related ROM's since 2 years now.
Feautures I use too: ActiveSync, TomTom, Cyberon Voice Dial, Jabra headset, .NET 3.5 (with configuration program) and Windows Live 10.6.0034.0800 with UMTS.
I don't use video call, MMS and HSDPA.
No solution for Video Call ??? I can't keep it , snif snif ....
So, here's what i did finally
I decided and flashed back in WWE6.0! Because of one simple reason is Ram! After flash back in WM6, Ram stays about 25-27....so what i think is WM6.1 consumes too much Ram.....the only thing impresses me is its thread sms function, without it....it's nothing at all compare with WM6...
cheerz
queer~dude said:
I decided and flashed back in WWE6.0! Because of one simple reason is Ram! After flash back in WM6, Ram stays about 25-27....so what i think is WM6.1 consumes too much Ram.....the only thing impresses me is its thread sms function, without it....it's nothing at all compare with WM6...
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I have the same results with the ROM in my signature. I have not reset my PDA for 3 days and RAM is 25.29 MB.
have tried a few and flashed that many times im forgetting which has the most
i run tomtom etc on my hermes and would like a nice mobile shell gui but some of the roms have little ram
i know the hermes is limiyed so was trying to work out which rom would be the best starting point, storage aint a prob as i have an 8gb card and run stuff from there which i know takes up ram use but would like more advice
cheers
doddy
kdodd said:
have tried a few and flashed that many times im forgetting which has the most
i run tomtom etc on my hermes and would like a nice mobile shell gui but some of the roms have little ram
i know the hermes is limiyed so was trying to work out which rom would be the best starting point, storage aint a prob as i have an 8gb card and run stuff from there which i know takes up ram use but would like more advice
cheers
doddy
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Here we go again .. until you try each one you won't know! Try the DVH big storage and almost naked, you really need to flash each and every one to try!!
As Zocster said... plus he has pointed you in a good direction. Abusalza's ROM used to have the most RAM but I am also trying out a few naked ROMS.
Wam7 said:
As Zocster said... plus he has pointed you in a good direction. Abusalza's ROM used to have the most RAM but I am also trying out a few naked ROMS.
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True, go for naked roms as they usually have more ram!! everyone (Chefs) are currently trying new opal and manilla apps in their roms so you'll probably get less ram on those roms.
It's not 6.1, and it's not the fastest, but in my ROM flashing, I've found that this has the most:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917
large ROM
Joshkoss naked I use is just 35mb and gives me 89.x mb ram free afer install. I installed lot of software on this and now it has 40 mb free. I loaded two full office suites. etc chekc it out very fast too
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rocksolid said:
Joshkoss naked I use is just 35mb and gives me 89.x mb ram free afer install. I installed lot of software on this and now it has 40 mb free. I loaded two full office suites. etc chekc it out very fast too
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kdodd was asking for RAM (program). This is physically limited to 64MB on hermes. You're talking of flash memory used for storage (all in all 128MB on hermes in various partitions).
On my hermes with "CRC V13 normal" there's available RAM of ~48MB (depends on page pool etc.), after some applications are running (e.g. HTC home, all other OS applications) there's ~ 24MB free RAM.
Hope this helps.
scholbert
CRC v13 is best for me.
RAM and ROM
Yes I was wrong. thanks Scolbert for correcting me.
my Storage = 89.00 mb to start and not the RAM