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The connector for active-sync of the XDA is very badly constructed.
Until I got my new XDA2, I had a XDA1. I had it exchanged (warranty) against the XDA2
after some discussion with o2 about bad quality ot the xda1 (I had it 3 times repaired, but it broke soon again. Last problem: the connector for syncing broke 3 days after I got the replacement xda.)
The problem seems to be the smal plastic lid that holds the contacts:
While the plug resting on the plastic lid and the metal frame not supporting the plug suffiiciently because of a quite big gap between them, the lid could easily break if force
is applied up- or downward.
This way my last replacement XDA1 deterioated.
(Un-)Fortunately, the active-sync+charge cable (non O2-accessory) I had for XDA1 my seems to be pin compatible (syncing works).
So the plug is the same, and one should be VERY careful with it.
->Also the original charging adapter is constructed in a way to send bending forces to
the small plastic lid of the inner connector (good to know for warranty discussions).
I actually think of a plug-adaptor, that interfaces between the original plug and the outer
world. It cold be supported via a steelframe that one integrates into the original wallet.
Ideas are welcome!
Summary for the lazy:
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! The Active-Sync-Plug is *badly* constructed.
- The inner plastic lid holding the connectors BREAKS easily.
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!! So beware of cables attached to the sync connector. !!
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Use only the craddle that applies forces only to the case of the XDA
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May I add on top of this ... it happened to me and the USB connector is broken. The bad news is: there is NO way yo fix it and as it's integrated with the main board (the power pin) the only option is to replace the main board :x :evil:
Guys, be more than just careful with your devices on that point.
Biso007 said:
May I add on top of this ... it happened to me and the USB connector is broken. The bad news is: there is NO way yo fix it and as it's integrated with the main board (the power pin) the only option is to replace the main board :x :evil:
Guys, be more than just careful with your devices on that point.
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This is not necessarily true. We have the sync and audiojack connectors in stock and can replace them. They are a pain, but doable.
May be you are right, but it's the case with my device. They said the connection point with the power track (pin) is lost, so the main board has to be replaced. Or maybe they are not equipped the same way you have at USA, and the shipping cost makes it more expensive
In Australia the O2 service Centre will charge you for a compleate replacment main board, they say they can't fix the connector and because the phone was out of warranty they simply charge for a compleatly new board :x SHARKS!
XDA Connector repairs avaliable here
Hi Guys,
I used a company in the UK to repair by busted XDA 2. The damn connector fell out when using an aftermarket in car charger. Got his company to repair it. Were pretty good. their web site adress is www.apexlaptops.co.uk
I was pleased wit the service. Hope they can help you like they helped me!
Good luck guys.
Pocket PC Techs ROCK
I had my unit connected to a cable and landed on the floor - connector first. OUCH. The female connector on the bottom of the unit was loose - and the unit became useless (connections no longer worked). I sent it to Pocket PC Techs, and they fixed and returned it all within a week, and for a very reasonable fee as well. Try them. It'll probably work. Just be gentle with it when it's plugged in.
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Re: SYNC CONNECTOR REPAIRS
brentwebster said:
Hi guys. Just to let you all know that i do repairs on sync connectors if anyone has got a broken one. The repairs are done same day sevice, so the day i recieve the phone i repair it and send it back out to you the same day. Th cost of this repair is £40-00. My contact detials are [email protected]. Email me for further details
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Hi Guys, just to let you know that brentwebster has used the picture from my auction and I sell the connectors for £10 on ebay, if you are fairly good with a soldering iron you can do it yourself - I'll give a discount and free postage in the UK to members of XDA-developers who mail me before buying for details
Richard / fluffcat1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9707299579
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brentwebster said:
I can supply these connectors at £8 to anyone that wants them. :wink:
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PM me for a better price :twisted:
Richard
Re: SYNC CONNECTOR REPAIRS
Another person offering this service to those who can't do it themselves:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9704914642
£39.99 plus return postage, paypal accepted, 647 feedback rating ( 1000 under mne but there we go ) , no affiliation blah blah blah. Maybe brentwebster can start a price war with them as well?....
Richard
Broken SYNC Connector on my XDA IIi
Can anyone repair this????
If they can please email me with details (address, cost etc)
My email is [email protected]
Thankx
I have one with the connector completely off. Rather soldering a new one on, I was thinking of hard wiring a usb lead on, to fit my arkon gps receiver. Does anyone know the pin outs. I only need data in/out, ground and vcc
I was able to get my Kaiser after someone at my work dropped theirs and since AT&T won't cover damage they ended ordering a new one and I decided to replace the screen which was BADLY broken but otherwise worked. What I didn't know was that the contacts on the earpiece speaker were being held in be the case.
I am looking to get a replacement 'earpiece', aka conversation speaker, for my Tilt but I cannot seem to find it anywhere online including ebay. So far I have found a few repair shops that would be willing to fix it if I send it in but as I have already successfully replaced the LCD I prefer to do the work myself. Does anyone have the part they would be willing to sell me or know of a company that would sell just the part. I have a bluetooth headset but it would be REALLY helpful to have the earpiece speaker working again since windows can be flaky when it comes to answering the phone using the headset.
if your going to do the work ur self ur going to need a soldering iron and possibly an ohmmeter (electrical evice measeuring electrical resistance ect) u would need to ohm out the speaker in the phone and u might be able to use a headphne speaker if u used a resistor with a head phone to get correct ohms for the speaker to work beacause u need the same ohms or it coul draw too much or too little current from the amplifier and the battery and if that doesnt work speakers in commercial devices are usually genaric made in korea or china u could try speaker from a different phon hopefully a cheap phone, hope i helped in some way
din,
Not looking to fix the component.
I was hoping to just replace the actual component, as I am not trying to fix the broken speaker or try to fit a different speaker into my phone. If I can't find a place to buy the speaker I probably will have to get my work to but me a phone and it will likely will be a Blackberry as that is our corporate standard.
I would need help with my HTC s620. Sometimes the mic works perfectly, sometimes it does not, so people on the other end of the line can not hear me at all or just very-very low. I already tried changing regedit and also used the audio gain and microphone fix .cab files, but the basic problem remained: sometimes the mic works, sometimes not. I made soft reset / hard reset several times, still the problem remains. With my bluetooth headset I always have good voice quality even if the mic on the phone is not working. Altogether this drove me to the conclusion that I need to replace the microphone in my HTC s620.
On Ebay I can buy a new replacement microphone for a few $ but I don't know whether I would be able to replace it on my own. Anyone has any experience? Do I need any special tools for replacing the mic in my HTC s620? Can anyone provide me with a guide how to proceed? Any help is much appreciated.
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I would need help with my HTC s620. Sometimes the mic works perfectly, sometimes it does not, so people on the other end of the line can not hear me at all or just very-very low. I already tried changing regedit and also used the audio gain and microphone fix .cab files, but the basic problem remained: sometimes the mic works, sometimes not. I made soft reset / hard reset several times, still the problem remains. With my bluetooth headset I always have good voice quality even if the mic on the phone is not working. Altogether this drove me to the conclusion that I need to replace the microphone in my HTC s620.
On Ebay I can buy a new replacement microphone for a few $ but I don't know whether I would be able to replace it on my own. Anyone has any experience? Do I need any special tools for replacing the mic in my HTC s620? Can anyone provide me with a guide how to proceed? Any help is much appreciated.
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There's a guide for taking apart your excalibur in the sticky, but honestly it doesn't specify how to change your mic but it will give a pretty good idea of what tools to use to open and re-assemble your dash.
Thanks for the response Mr. Clown. Indeed I would need a bit more specific info on how the MIC is attached to the phone and with what method it can be replaced. I read some forums on other type of phones where only the manufacturer is able to replace either the mic or the full board when it is impossible to replace the mic. As I mentioned earlier on Ebay there are two offers recently on OEM HTC mic for s620, however some forums also mention that even if a separate mic can be purchased, it does not guarantee that it can easily be replaced. Unfortunately I am not a tech expert, so I appreciate any guidance on this issue. Many thanks.
some possible solution
I searched a bit further on more general forums and it seems that I found the answer, so I post it here for others facing a similar problem.
It is not impossible but requires quite an experience and expertise to replace the microphone as it is soldered on the pcb. It needs high temparature heating and then the soldering of the new microphone. You can find new OEM microphones on Ebay (there are recently two offers: 3 - 6 USD price range + shipping), but you have to find someone who will replace the mic for you and who is experienced well and will not destroy your board with this procedure.
Here is a simple description of the process:
1. Set heater of your rework station between 400 to 417 degrees celcius, and air make the pointer of the air knob point aj 9 o'clock.
2. Select nozzle size that is not too big or too small for the mic.
3. Apply ample paste on the mic and direct the heat on it. Remove the mic with metal tweezers gently.
4. Apply paste to the interface of the mic to be soldered and then apply tiny solder on the pads to be soldered.
5. Place the mic correctly on the pcb and apply heat from the opposite side of the pcb, and remove the heat when the solder is melted.
Some have reported that this method really works, however I found no information whether it also works for the Excalibur as the interesting point is the exact place of the mic, so by heating it you will not damage other parts of the board.
I contacted the official HTC service and some other mobile experts, so I am looking for someone that can make the replacement for me... It is recommended that you also proceed similarly.
I hope this info will help.
If the mic sometimes works and other times not, why not trying to re-solder the contacts first? This is much easier than removing/replacing the microphone as you can apply the heat one contact after the other.
Dumb question: You are not covering the hole for the mic. with your fingers from time to time?
Thanks for the reply tobbie. I am surely not covering the mic with my finger or any other body parts ; ) So it must be the mic and not me causing the problem. For the time being I am still chasing someone experienced who could do the soldering for me... In the meanwhile I have flashed my ROM from 3VO.2.80.092509 to 3VO.3.50.033010, just to see whether this might be a software porblem. Flashing went well but problem remained. You are right pointing out that the MIC might be absolutely OK, as it sometimes functions well, and this might indicate that the problem is with the connection of the mic with the board and not the mic itself. However if I take the phone into pieces, then I would like to get it done, so I might still order this tiny mic on the internet. Out of curiosity: does anyone knows whether these mics are compatible with each other or not: I saw many Motorola (e.g.: V3) mics that look exactly as the HTC S620 mic, but I don't know whether they are really the identic.
For the time being I use my BT headset till I (hopefully) manage to solve this issue.
For a start, I would stay with HTC devices. All the older ones I have disassembled (typhoon, hurricane, tornado, excalibur, vox) share the same microphone (at least from the looks). Earpiece looks identical for all except the vox, ring-speaker looks identical for the 3 candy-bars while excalibur and vox seem to have the same as well.
Buying spare parts is usually more expensive than getting a used device with a broken screen or otherwise damaged. I have two definitely ruined boards (Tornado with a dead LCD interface + Hurricane with intermittent shut off) and some Typhoon parts that can not make a complete device.
Never soldered anything on the PBA - it is really delicate and if you spoil anything the board is gone. Possibly try to record something with the PBA accessible and apply some force to the mic while doing so. This should reveal if there is problem with soldering.
Many thanks for the help tobbie.
I will give a try and see how the mic would respond for such a "treatment". In the meanwhile I found a funny forum response from a guy who replaced a PCB soldered SonyEricsson W880 mic without a rework station, by just using a gas butane torch:
"I just managed to replace it. It wasn't so difficult.
First you have to unsolder the mic on the PCB (I used Gas Butane Torch from B&Q as I havn't got a Rework Station)
After that I found some old mic laying in my draw from samsung. I soldered it to the PCB using two thick copper wires
ps. If yo damage a track on the PCB you can solder a positive to the capacitor on the other side of the PCB."
Well it sounds a bit weird, anyway I would still go for an experienced expert with a rework station and proper equipment for replacement.
Danke und tschuss
Last night I dissambled my HTC s620 (it was a bit harder then I thought) and got to the mic, which is under a small rubber case, I cleaned a bit the surroundings, checked the contacts, but from the first sight everything seemed to be tight and fixed, still I pressed the mic a bit but no better mic functionality, actually now I can only here everything said in the mic very-very low and from last night there was no occasion when I could record with normal sound level. This might still indicate bad contact. Anyway, I will get now a replacmenet mic on Ebay and try to replace it. Will report whether it has really solved my problem.
The mic has the following numbers on it: S777 261, I don't know whether these types of mics are really compatible (I assume that they are - not only within the HTC brand but also with similar Motorola mics), anyway I will not go for a cheaper V3 mic but buy one which is advertised as an HTC S620 mic.
Same problem.
I've been using my excalibur for 2 weeks and, last night, in the middle of a call, my microphone stopped working. completely. does anybody have any idea of what i can do to solve this problem?!
please, i'm desperate.
amiloicram said:
I've been using my excalibur for 2 weeks and, last night, in the middle of a call, my microphone stopped working. completely. does anybody have any idea of what i can do to solve this problem?!
please, i'm desperate.
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You try to check the headset jack may be the cause of it
As title says. I have a problem with my HD, that the mic falls out now and then.
Sometimes just for a few secs, but also sometimes for longer periods which make it really hard to have normal conversations.
I've searched for a replacement mic on eBay, but can't find anything. Is the mic part of a "module" that need to be changed altogether?
Really appreciate any help on this matter.
Best regards
Kristian
Yes it's on the 'upper' circuit board (attached) and beneath a small rubber cover-right next to camera-I believe you need the whole circuit board-it could just be a dirty or loose connection though and may be worth checking where the upper board connects to the main board, A broken screen/parts only phone off ebay may be the best bet to repair it. Replace the upper board.
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Yes it's on the 'upper' circuit board (attached) and beneath a small rubber cover-right next to camera-I believe you need the whole circuit board-it could just be a dirty or loose connection though and may be worth checking where the upper board connects to the main board, A broken screen/parts only phone off ebay may be the best bet to repair it. Replace the upper board.
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Ummm... It isn't.
It is on the "Lower" circuit board, next to the headphone jack.
It is fixed to the mainboard and looks like a very precise and delicate procedure to replace.
It seems that I have either been too careless when changing my broken display, or I have a typical monday example from the production floor... Because the big flat cable connector mounted on the mainboard has cracked and a corner piece has broken off completely.
I managed to glue it back into place, but there's some plastic missing between the wired connection points. This means (seems to anyway) that my MicroSD slot is busted and is currently short circuiting the whole phone if any MicroSD is mounted.
Now my question:
Is there anyway to buy an entirely new one of these connector ports?
I've looked high and low online (eBay and otherwise), however I really don't know the proper terminology to search accurately.
I work in electronic manufacturing and we actually have connectors in stock, very similar to the one I need, but obviously similar doesn't cut it - I need the exact model used. If I had one I could easily solder it in place at work...
Does anyone have any ideas of how to find one?
I include one picture to clarify which connector I am talking about. It is not a pic of my actual mainboard, but a pic from eBay that I marked, just to give a general idea.