I just recently bought a Palm Pre and returned it, hated it! So I bought the touch pro knowing it cam out almost a year ago (impulse buy). Now I am just curious, I know the touch pro 2 is coming to sprint, but its rumored that the hero will be out for sprint later this year, possibly December. Which one should i wait for?
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
lhwparis said:
i think major difference is the qwerty keyboard so decide if you need this or not.
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+ one is android and other WM, usually a big difference depending on what you like.
That will depend on what is for you need the device
TP2: Buissness oriented device with the second best physical keyboard (1st is from Universal)
Hero: Multimedia oriented device with an OS tha promises a lot in the future, by now it needs to grow up and madurate
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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Haha, yeah I know, keyboard is a big deal to me. It's just WM seems to disappoint me a lot. Although I have high hopes for 6.5, I'm thinking sprint is waiting for 6.5 to release to touch pro 2, it would make it all that better!
But still, functionality versus a keyboard, I don't know! haah
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
SuperAdvan said:
however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
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the shape is virtually the same as the G1, and I've never heard anyone complain about any discomfort when they put the G1 in their pocket. and there may not be a hardware KB, but as far as onscreen KB's go, it looks like the Hero's will be one of best so far. and I like how the screen is capacitive and thus supports multi touch.
personally, I'm getting the TP2 when it comes out on AT&T. I'm also planning on picking up an unlocked Hero (unless it finds its way to the states, specifically AT&T). just want something else to play around with
Please buy both. Both has different strength, features & abilities. Both are totally different. I hope i will get one if god willing
For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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For me it will be the one with the biggest screen & WM on it...TP2!
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Yeah but the hero has a capacitive screen right? or am I wrong about that? Im actually not sure but I would think that it does because all the other android ones by HTC ara capacitive
Edit: I checked and im pretty sure its capacitive but I just browsed through search results
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530600
The same question has been haunting me lately too. I've been waiting forever for the TP2 to come to AT&T and now I see this. If they end up having release dates close together I'm thinking I might go with the hero. The main thing that will bother me is the lack of keyboard since I'm coming from a Kaiser (Tilt).
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White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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White is not definite. Colors and providers are yet to be determined according to an HTC rep on a youtube video that I saw earlier (If I can track it down again I'll include it with an edit....)
SuperAdvan said:
I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Agreed, but there's one big difference. You can get an upgrade discount on phones once every 1.5 years, otherwise you're paying out your A$$. Graphics cards are always the same (usually relatively lower) price.
SuperAdvan said:
I know what you mean about WM, but HTC have done a great job of masking the dull and boring monolike OS with Touchflo from what I have seen and WM 6.5 looks like a vast improvement at least visually.
Personally I think you, like me, would probably get bored of Android and the touch screen keypad would drive me nuts in the end.
I tried typing on an Iphone 3GS yesterday to get a (improved) idea of what a Diamond 2 or Hero might be like and with my fingers theres no chance I would type quickly on that ever, it would be like trying to look behind you without moving your head.
TP2 is the way to go, however the Omnia Pro is coming soon too, but then the Nvidia Tegra chipset powered HTC HD sequal is comign - I cant decide either, phones are like PC graphics cards these days.
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Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
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Yeah you seem like you have the same thoughts as I do. I think you're right about getting tired with the android phone. I love messing with WM and modding it. I know you can with android, but it will have its limits. The thing about touch pro 2 not being a capacitive touch screen, it bums me out and makes me ask why they won't do this with WM yet. I can say they have been improving their resistive screens, big difference from the mogul to the touch pro, so I hope they can do that again. I am definitely leaning toward the touch pro 2. Does anyone know why they won't go with the capacitive screen on WM or touch pro 2?
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
SuperAdvan said:
Welcome to my world, all these damn phones coming out, Hero I like however things I dont like are the shape, imagine that in your pocket? "Are you pleased to see me or is that a HTC Hero in your pocket?" and as the person above mentioned, lack of keyboard.
White doesnt stay clean for long either.
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LOL! Yeah, I don't like the shape of it too..
I would go for TP2 as it's not going to disappoint you!
Hard descision
touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
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This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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The resistive screen is one of the selling points for me, especially one as finger-friendly as TP2s. Best of both worlds. I get easy navigation without having to constantly sheath and unsheath the stylus, but I can use a compact and conveniently tucked away stylus when needed. I very much doubt I'll ever need it for the basic interface, but with some apps I'll want it. My Palm TX has been my primary Chinese-English dictionary for some time (before it, my Palm T|T and m500 served the same purpose), and the same software is available for WinMo. I'd just as soon use a stylus for character recognition. For that matter, I'd just as soon use a stylus for handwritten memos. I imagine capacitative screen users get by on both fronts just fine, but for me, I'm glad there's a good resistive screen still available.
Mi|enko said:
This is exactly why I'm shying away from the TP2 and leaning towards the Hero or the Magic. The sheer idea of there being opportunities where I might need to resort to the stylus are completely holding me back. Guess I'll have to actually play with one before I make my decision; but, since using the capacitive touchscreen (iphone/G1), I'm not sure I can go back.
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So far with my TP2, I have not used the stylus at all and I am a pretty heavy business user, thats emails, facebook, youtube, general browsing and posting on forums, stock, sms.
Whats more I have yet to use the actual qwerty keyboard aswell, I find the touch one good enough everytime unless I'm typing a huge email or document.
My advice is go and actually look at the Diamond 2 and TP2 in the flesh, it is totally different to looking at it on the internet, it really is a quality product.
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touch pro 2 is coming to tmobile august 8th and hero im not sure but the magic is coming july 8th..the resisitive touch screen on the pro is so smooth it feels like its capacitive..and its alot bigger screen and has multitouch..but the hero has android and its built very nicely with the teflon coat and finger print proof screen..i hate phones so many choices ((
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sorry to burst your bubble, sir, but the TP2 doesn't support multi touch. that luxury is reserved for devices that have a capacitive display. and while the TP2 feels like it's capacitive, it isn't. the Hero, on the other hand, IS capacitive and therefore the screen supports multi touch
NICE ONE!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/06/samsung-i8700-put-through-13-minute-video-expose/
The Display is nice, but the phone is too big.
Hirnteri said:
The Display is nice, but the phone is too big.
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All the new phones are "too big" :S.. I'm hoping for a Win Phone 7 with the same size as the HTC Diamond 2... I hate huge phones like the nexus, hd2 and iphone :S
I will buy the htc Mozart. This One is little. It smaller. Like the desire.
Nice cell phone ! I will buy one.
My goodness that looks like a nice phone!!!
Is it a Samsung Captivate with a new OS?
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Is it a Samsung Captivate with a new OS?
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Hope so, because that'd mean there's a humminbird/SGX540 in it with a 4in Super Amoled screen, but the person who leaked the vid says it's a 3.7in screen. And like most people are saying here, it will most likely have the Snapdragon processor.
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Hope so, because that'd mean there's a humminbird/SGX540 in it with a 4in Super Amoled screen, but the person who leaked the vid says it's a 3.7in screen. And like most people are saying here, it will most likely have the Snapdragon processor.
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Hmmm...the US (att) Samsung Captivate has some pretty troubling issues on the reliability front. Granted it has a WM OS, however, most of the issues seem to be hardware related.
I am pretty underwhelmed by the three rumored handsets set to be announced in a few days. I'll end up purchasing one of them, simply to support the OS, but all of them look pretty ho hum. I really though that Microsoft was going to come out swinging this time around. Apparently not. The OS looks slick, though incomplete, and the hardware looks minimal instead of trend setting. Bottom line is that an WP7 handset announced next week will be eclipsed in technology by holiday sales period. That is pretty sad.
http://www.talkandroid.com/8164-galaxy-s-to-have-micr-usb-to-hdmi-output/
anyone hear more about this??
and just found this saying the american Galaxy S versions will support it
http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-does-microusb-to-hdmi
that would include captivate model
more reading.. (below) samsung states its possible after an update. other reading says it may sacrifice ability to use docking station.
samsung has abandond update idea and pulled cables from release.
CAN WE PULL IT OFF??
Trusselo said:
http://www.talkandroid.com/8164-galaxy-s-to-have-micr-usb-to-hdmi-output/
anyone hear more about this??
and just found this saying the american Galaxy S versions will support it
http://briefmobile.com/galaxy-s-does-microusb-to-hdmi
that would include captivate model
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This is old news. I don't think anyone was ever able to get it to work. There was also issues with the cable itself.
yeah found that after too. another abandoned promise from samsung.
was going to be available after software update. cable was even posted on their site coming soon. now removed. now samsung doubts they will do 2.3, HIGHLY doubt they would ever update the HDMI capabilities.
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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The specs for Infuse does not have HDMI out. Samsung has gone the route of DLNA like our current Captivate using AllShare.
Dani897 said:
yeah in a couple months they will just replace us with the infuse. which will be like samsungs answer to the evo but being samsung the cameras will be bettter among the advantages we already have.
then the infuse will be replaced by something dual core, it is possible that the infuse is dual core and they are withholding that info untill its release as to not devalue the captivate too much in advance. but they may also be planning another phone release shortly after. a samsung engineer hinted to me that there will be a dual core phone in 2011.
does anyone know if we can get video over usb via samsungs dock? apple does it so why not samsung?
it is disapointing but i guess composite video will have to do till i get an infuse. well there was someone who claimed it was working on the epic. if that is true then maybe the driver can be ported. but no one is working in that direction that i know of.
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Samsung has never been afraid of devaluing their devices. I worked for at&t until March of 2010, and I can say honestly that I have seen some crazy samsung stunts.
Example of Gimping one model to not devalue another:
BlackBerry Bold 9000 - 3G, WIFI.
BlackBerry Curve 8900 - EDGE, WIFI.
Why is the 8900 3G on every carrier that supports it EXCEPT at&t? Because they didn't want to devalue the Bold 9000. On other carriers, the 8900 was the top-end 3G BlackBerry, but not on at&t.
Example of Samsung not giving a damn:
Samsung Eternity. Great feature phone, pretty decent touch screen, overall good device. I owned two, personally. My youngest sister and her then-boyfriend both owned one each.
Samsung Propel. Another great feature phone, with a slide-out QWERTY. Bought them for my mother, my other sister, my brother-in-law. None of them had complaints.
Shortly after:
Samsung Solstice, Samsung Mythic... both replaced the Eternity.
Samsung Flight, a Propel with a touch-screen. (Replaced my mother's Propel with the Flight though... trying to get her into touch-screen first, then transition her to android!)
Samsung didn't care how heavily stocked we were on the Propel, the Eternity and the Impression. They dropped those new phones like it was no big deal.
So, I wouldn't count on dual-core. Samsung likes to generate as much buzz early on as possible to get people talking about their new phones... hardware is -always- secondary to them. The thing they hold back until just before release is the UI. The Mythic is a great example... almost the exact same specs as the Eternity, but the UI is what they held back to just before release and what was it? Some god-awful slow iPhone knock-off UI.
They LOVE the horizontal scrolling in the 'app drawer'. They did it with the Mythic, then with TouchWiz. Bleh.
So far I love this phone. I'm just missing one thing the iPhone has that this one doesn't.
And that is RAGE! RAGE the game that is. Is it ever coming to the android????
And meantime is there something even close to it for android? I like the simplicity of aim shoot and get out the way from stones....
I don't like nova 2 its hard to control for me. Any suggestions of a nice aim n shoot kind if game?
Also, on the back of my sprint sprint phone it says in big letters "galaxy S II" so why on earth are we calling this phone EPIC 4G TOUCH? should be SPRINT GS2, PIRIOD!
Thanks.
Call it what you want homie, pple know what you mean. Call it all that and a bag of tricks and I know what you're talkin about.
The reason it is called galaxy s 2 is because samsung wants name recognition across all of the carriers. They have forced them all to place that name before whatever name they want to give it.
As far as your game have you tried to google rage for android.
Sent from my Epic on Midnight or my Galaxy Tab rooted (feels naked without a ROM)
Google rage comic maker? Are you serious??? Do you actually know which game I'm talking about? I doubt it but thanks for at least replying.
Carmack has expressed interest in Android and more than hinted at working on it, with comments about being how he's going to regret using iPhone-centric tags in the RAGE code when he ports to Android. That said, he's also since stated that the wide range of available hardware for Android concerns him and may prevent him from considering it too seriously. So we're in a waiting game on RAGE.