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I was installing a full body shield on my phone today ( the kind where you have to wet the phone) and I think maybe I got some water into the phone, probably the charging port.
I left the battery out of the device for about an hour and put it back in and every thing was good. But then I connected it to the comp via usb and the comp recognized it, then didnt recognize it, endless cycle. I thought woah. Took out the battery, blow dried the charging port, left the battery out for a while. I connected again back to the computer and it seems fine.
Now I try to charge it.. weird stuff happening. I connect and let it charge for a while its fine.. then I disconnect and it still thinks its charging. After playing with the phone for a bit in battery settings it realizes its not charging fine. After a while I connect it to the charger, shows not charging, after a while shows charging via USB. Now again its not reconizing the charger.
I'm scared as **** and just took out the battery.. what do I do?
godisanatheist said:
I was installing a full body shield on my phone today ( the kind where you have to wet the phone) and I think maybe I got some water into the phone, probably the charging port.
I left the battery out of the device for about an hour and put it back in and every thing was good. But then I connected it to the comp via usb and the comp recognized it, then didnt recognize it, endless cycle. I thought woah. Took out the battery, blow dried the charging port, left the battery out for a while. I connected again back to the computer and it seems fine.
Now I try to charge it.. weird stuff happening. I connect and let it charge for a while its fine.. then I disconnect and it still thinks its charging. After playing with the phone for a bit in battery settings it realizes its not charging fine. After a while I connect it to the charger, shows not charging, after a while shows charging via USB. Now again its not reconizing the charger.
I'm scared as **** and just took out the battery.. what do I do?
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Have you tried the rice trick?
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some people say put battery in rice for 48 hrs to take away all water. Plus there is like a small litmus paper on battery, it usually is pink w stripes and changes color when it comes in contact w water. If the color hasnt changed you can still get the phone exchanged, but try the rice trick.
this phone doesnt have the liquid stickers.
here's the thing, it was such small amounts of water being used I don;t think rice would work. Like rice just waits for the water to come out and dries it so the phone is fine before you use it.
I'm pretty sure the water is already out, I'm stuck with a problem.
Can I Flash to stock, lock the bootloader and send for warranty.. or will they know there was water involved?
The (insert charger) popup keeps coming up as well. Repeatedly
Odds are, you ruined it the minute you put the battery back in and turned it on. You can try taking the battery out and putting it in rice, but odds are that the damage has already been done.
I'm pretty sure that all of the instructions for the wet application protectors tell you to leave the battery out for at least 12 hrs, preferably a full day, before putting it back in and turning it on, and that is pretty much the reason why. If water gets anywhere it's not supposed to be, it can cause damage to the components. Live and learn I guess.
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this phone doesnt have the liquid stickers.
here's the thing, it was such small amounts of water being used I don;t think rice would work. Like rice just waits for the water to come out and dries it so the phone is fine before you use it.
I'm pretty sure the water is already out, I'm stuck with a problem.
Can I Flash to stock, lock the bootloader and send for warranty.. or will they know there was water involved?
The (insert charger) popup keeps coming up as well. Repeatedly
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This phone has 4 liquid stickers. I just found all of them. They all work.
One ON the battery, one above the battery by the gold power contacts and two under the plastic cover.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513201
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This phone has 4 liquid stickers. I just found all of them. They all work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513201
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Nice I hope it works out for you.. did you take a pic of where the liquid stickers are?
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Nice I hope it works out for you.. did you take a pic of where the liquid stickers are?
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I just updated my post above because I realized it could be helpful ^
Good luck to you as well!
...and now it's being laggy. I'm guessing this is due to the device always seeing anf not seeing a usb input.
I;m going to replace the charging jack tmrw from a technician I know.. hopefully that would fix the problem.
I gave it to one of my tech's. He's gonna open it up and try to clean any water damage and see if the stickers are good.
I have 3 ways to proceed:
Send it to my carrier, they'll give me a new/refurb phone. Cons: 35$ fee, may get a refurb phone, need to unroot phone, if water damage found, im stuck with a bill for a new phone.
Send it to Samsung, they'll repair it. Cons: I'll have no phone for a while it takes them a week or two to repair it. Need to unroot. If water damage found, they'll send it back unrepaired.
Get my tech to repair it by changing the chargin jack flex cable. Cons: Gotta pay him a fee probably $50-60. If something else goes wrong with the water damage later on, I'm screwed.
Not sure what to do right now.
Last night my phone died after 2 days off cable due to me having to use my cord for another device. I plugged it in today to find that it wasn't charging at all. I decided to give it a few minutes before trying, thinking it may not be turning on because it still needs some juice. I waited 30 minutes and it wouldn't turn on still, just gave me the little animation of a battery draining to indicate that it needs to be charged. After this, I figured that it's possible the cable is just dead, so I opted to borrow a cable from my brother. The cable charges his phone just fine, but it doesn't work with charging my phone. I took a shower while waiting for it to perhaps get the juice it needed, and still no dice. I tried several different outlets thinking perhaps the outlet was dead, and still nothing.
I've had the phone for a little over a month, so I'm not sure how long I have to turn it in or not; I'd hope it'd be 3 months for factory issues, but judging from how people mention 14 days, I'd assume that they're eager to push responsibility of broken devices onto the customer as fast as they can. Do you guys have any idea of what could be wrong? Perhaps if it's possible for me to get a replacement at this point?
I've been running the Lifeless v.11 Rom for a while with no issues, I haven't flashed anything in possibly a week or two, so I honestly doubt this is a software issue. It's never been exposed to water, but then again I really don't trust phones to detect if they've been damaged or not since it seems even a humid day is enough for those small water damage detection stickers to run pink.
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Last night my phone died after 2 days off cable due to me having to use my cord for another device. I plugged it in today to find that it wasn't charging at all. I decided to give it a few minutes before trying, thinking it may not be turning on because it still needs some juice. I waited 30 minutes and it wouldn't turn on still, just gave me the little animation of a battery draining to indicate that it needs to be charged. After this, I figured that it's possible the cable is just dead, so I opted to borrow a cable from my brother. The cable charges his phone just fine, but it doesn't work with charging my phone. I took a shower while waiting for it to perhaps get the juice it needed, and still no dice. I tried several different outlets thinking perhaps the outlet was dead, and still nothing.
I've had the phone for a little over a month, so I'm not sure how long I have to turn it in or not; I'd hope it'd be 3 months for factory issues, but judging from how people mention 14 days, I'd assume that they're eager to push responsibility of broken devices onto the customer as fast as they can. Do you guys have any idea of what could be wrong? Perhaps if it's possible for me to get a replacement at this point?
I've been running the Lifeless v.11 Rom for a while with no issues, I haven't flashed anything in possibly a week or two, so I honestly doubt this is a software issue. It's never been exposed to water, but then again I really don't trust phones to detect if they've been damaged or not since it seems even a humid day is enough for those small water damage detection stickers to run pink.
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wish i could help you man:/ only thing i can think of is taking of the back plating and make sure the connector is fine.it would suck if we have another evo 4g on our hands, especially without a removable battery
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Last night my phone died after 2 days off cable due to me having to use my cord for another device. I plugged it in today to find that it wasn't charging at all. I decided to give it a few minutes before trying, thinking it may not be turning on because it still needs some juice. I waited 30 minutes and it wouldn't turn on still, just gave me the little animation of a battery draining to indicate that it needs to be charged. After this, I figured that it's possible the cable is just dead, so I opted to borrow a cable from my brother. The cable charges his phone just fine, but it doesn't work with charging my phone. I took a shower while waiting for it to perhaps get the juice it needed, and still no dice. I tried several different outlets thinking perhaps the outlet was dead, and still nothing.
I've had the phone for a little over a month, so I'm not sure how long I have to turn it in or not; I'd hope it'd be 3 months for factory issues, but judging from how people mention 14 days, I'd assume that they're eager to push responsibility of broken devices onto the customer as fast as they can. Do you guys have any idea of what could be wrong? Perhaps if it's possible for me to get a replacement at this point?
I've been running the Lifeless v.11 Rom for a while with no issues, I haven't flashed anything in possibly a week or two, so I honestly doubt this is a software issue. It's never been exposed to water, but then again I really don't trust phones to detect if they've been damaged or not since it seems even a humid day is enough for those small water damage detection stickers to run pink.
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Pull your battery, try again
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Yea, going to update this. Sprint was giving me issues and trying to cough up money from me, so I pulled the battery and cleaned the port with a q-tip and it charged fine again. I was in for a scare there, but it's back to life.
Same problem...didn't have to pull battery
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Yea, going to update this. Sprint was giving me issues and trying to cough up money from me, so I pulled the battery and cleaned the port with a q-tip and it charged fine again. I was in for a scare there, but it's back to life.
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Just wanted to chime in with my experience.
I had same issue. Battery completely drained with a visit to the relatives (low cell signal).
Got home and plugged it in for 5min, the "battery charging" animation came on when short pressing the power button.
Had to move the phone to a different charger for the night and noticed that I couldn't get it to even show the charging animation while on the charger. Indeed after 8 hours on the charger the next morning it still wouldn't turn on. I thought I would have to take it back to Best Buy. On a whim, I thought I would drain all of the capacitance from the system by pressing and holding the power button to see if that would allow it to restart the charge cycle. So I held the power button for about 30-45sec off the charger, then waited about 30min and plugged it in at work.
It worked. Not sure why, but I didn't have to return it to Best Buy, so I'm happy.
Hello everyone,
I've been trying to pin down a problem with my AT&T GS3 for the last few days and I can't really find anyone describing quite the same symptoms (or maybe I'm slow and missed something somewhere). The problem seems to be that my phone isn't recognizing the battery has a full charge more often than not. It started a few days ago and seems to have gotten worse, as in when I first noticed the problem my phone would still turn on for brief periods of time before failing to 'see' a charge > 0% and then dying. Right now, it just powers up ever so briefly- sometimes it'll just die after it says Samsung or briefly into the boot screen.
Today, I took it apart to inspect the motherboard and connections but I didn't see anything obvious like broken connections or burny, burny components, but idk, everything is small and I didn't have a microscope. I wish I had looked closer at the power IC chip and stuff like that but I'm blind and probably wouldn't have seen anything anyway unless it was super obvious.
Occasionally, instead of showing a sad empty battery when I power it on (plugged in), it'll show 100% like I would expect and it would get slightly further into the boot sequence before dying again and go back to showing empty and making me very sad and confused. I can almost swear this happens more often when I'm holding it a certain way or whatnot. One other thing I noticed is that when this first happened, my battery was about 32% and after a while of 'charging' it would show 86% when I got the 'correct' battery charge to display... next instance was 94%, then 99% and finally 100%... so I can only assume the battery is somehow charging but the phone just hasn't gotten the memo. I bought another battery (OEM) and tried to no avail, so I assume it's not the battery. I've tried multiple chargers and no luck there either.
So, has anyone ever seen anything like this? And if so, do you think it's the power IC, the capacitor in that circuit, or something else that I'm not thinking of entirely? I see that there's 4 battery pins/terminals/whatever and after internet'ing around a bit about phone batteries, it seems that 2 are the normal pos/neg (obvs), one is a thermistor for temperature, and one 'talks' to the phone to tell it all about the battery's voltage, charge, etc because the old way of indicating charge was kinda shoddy apparently. I'm definitely suspecting something to do with that last thing too, but I have no idea what part of the circuit that is.
Any sage wisdom here would be very, very appreciated and thank you in advance.
P.S.
I have some background working with electronics, but not electronics for ants, if that helps at all.
Done / Fixed
Never found out what was wrong with the motherboard but I did buy a GS3 w/ a broken screen off eBay to do the fix for cheap.
$100 (broken phone) - $65 (resale of parts) + unscrewing/rescrewing 10 tiny screws + detaching/reattaching some cute ribbon cables = phone worky worky
If you have an S3 or similarly easy to disassemble phone, I'd highly recommend doing some research and ebay scrounging before dropping a metric crapload of cash on a expensive repair or replacement.
So I woke up this morning to find my Tab drained. I plugged it in for half an hour, then when I picked it up I noticed there was no charging indicator (the green liquid battery thing). So I thought maybe I didn't plug it in right. I reattached everything, tested the charger on another device, then plugged it back into the tab for about 2 hours...still no juice. I tried powering on and doing the reset thing. still nothing. I brought it to a Samsung service center and they said I have a faulty motherboard. Now I'm wondering how the hell that happened when I've been using this device for about 6 months (only 6 months) without any issues, no overheating or strange reboots or anything, and now just like that I have a motherboard issue? The kicker here is that they're charging 75% of the tablet price to fix it! What gives?! I purchased it from a non-samsung mall store so they said I can't claim warranty. I popped the back off and did the battery pull thing and tried to charge - still nothing. Did I buy a device that decided it was a lemon after 6 months light-moderate use?
Anyone else have this happen? It's never been dropped or anything and I was on stock firmware with nothing but root.
In the UK, If your tablet goes faulty in 12months your guarantee is with the place you bought it from, not Samsung.
John.
It's ALIVE! I thought I'd get a 2nd opinion on my Tab since the guys at the Samsung service center popped it open anyway. Went to a generic phone repair store, all they did was hook it up to this box thing, and it came back to life! The guy said something got corrupted and just re flashed everything to stock rooted. He charged me less than $20 and I have a working Tab again. Obviously the very first thing I did with my resurrected device was to call Samsung's hotline and report how this one service center was trying to scam me into buying a motherboard that cost nearly as much as what I paid for the thing brand new.
Some li-poly battery have an protection circuit built in, if the voltage falls below a certain level say 2.5volts per cell, it disables the battery, if you connect an meter to the battery you will get 0volts , you need an li-ion charger that passes an higher voltage that resets the battery and allows it to work again, I wonder if this is what happened.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/low_voltage_cut_off
John.
Did they connect via USB or to the motherboard?
@tinderbox could be...must have over-drained itself for some reason.
@ashyx I couldn't really see what he was doing since his work table was obstructed by a bunch of stuff and he had his back towards me, I just saw him grab this small black box, then minutes later he showed me that the tab was already powering on though couldn't get past samsung logo, then he went ahead and flashed to stock.
Reason I ask is I wonder if he used a jtag box to ressurect it by reflashing the bootloader.
If he did there must be jtag points on the board as it can't usually be done via USB.
Pity you didn't ask what he actually did as I'm intrigued now.
Did the box look like this: riff box
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Reason I ask is I wonder if he used a jtag box to ressurect it by reflashing the bootloader.
If he did there must be jtag points on the board as it can't usually be done via USB.
Pity you didn't ask what he actually did as I'm intrigued now.
Did the box look like this: riff box
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Yes! but without the markings.:good:
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Yes! but without the markings.:good:
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Exactly the same or just similar?
yeah i think so... it had similar ports, though not sure about the outer shell of it... i think it was smooth all around with no ridges or anything, just a little black rectangular box.
Sorry to revive an old topic, but i thought i'd do an update instead of start a new one. Tab S died again and I'm now convinced it's over-discharge, as I left it at about 20% and forgot to plug it in before going to bed. Woke up with the tab drained, not responding to any button combinations, not charging with any of my chargers that tested ok with other devices.
Instead of bringing it back to the technician, I thought I'd try mcguyvering the damn thing. I opened up the back, pried the battery terminals up off the board, lifted the battery out, and with a spliced USB cord hooked up to a powerbank, I gave the battery terminals a direct zap, inserting the exposed USB wires into the battery terminals. This took some trial and error as, I didn't know which wire was supposed to go where, but finally I saw the powerbank leds blink, indicating it was discharging into something. I held the wires in place for about 5-10 minutes, noticing some heat on the battery by then. I reinstalled the battery back into the tablet, closed everything up and tried charging again and...hey presto! the tab started charging. :victory: Let it charge for 2 hours and powered on like nothing happened.
disclaimer:
I don't recommend you defibrillate your device's battery unless you know exactly what you're doing and are fully aware of the risks. (I didn't know what I was doing at the time but I was so frustrated at that point I didn't mind if the battery blew up in my face.)
Mine just dead last night while CHARGING (turned off at 13%).....
And refused to turn on till now (still charging and both warm (charger + tab)...
I even plugged an ampere meter to really know if its drawing any or not (it is, at 5.2V 1.7A for 15mins)...
And still no luck
Samsung's device become more ****ty each generations..... Esp the battery...
This one is the replacement batt they gave me after 2mos of usage for infamous Tab S battery issue...
I saw a video on youtube, a guy had a dead 10.5" T1 he took the back off and connected an 1amp microusb charger pcb to connections directly to the battery under a piece a tape, I bought a couple of the microusb charger pcb`s from ebay for 0.42p each in case mine goes dead.
EDIT: I found the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRTgLGrzNz0
John.
pawces said:
Sorry to revive an old topic, but i thought i'd do an update instead of start a new one. Tab S died again and I'm now convinced it's over-discharge, as I left it at about 20% and forgot to plug it in before going to bed. Woke up with the tab drained, not responding to any button combinations, not charging with any of my chargers that tested ok with other devices.
Instead of bringing it back to the technician, I thought I'd try mcguyvering the damn thing. I opened up the back, pried the battery terminals up off the board, lifted the battery out, and with a spliced USB cord hooked up to a powerbank, I gave the battery terminals a direct zap, inserting the exposed USB wires into the battery terminals. This took some trial and error as, I didn't know which wire was supposed to go where, but finally I saw the powerbank leds blink, indicating it was discharging into something. I held the wires in place for about 5-10 minutes, noticing some heat on the battery by then. I reinstalled the battery back into the tablet, closed everything up and tried charging again and...hey presto! the tab started charging. :victory: Let it charge for 2 hours and powered on like nothing happened.
disclaimer:
I don't recommend you defibrillate your device's battery unless you know exactly what you're doing and are fully aware of the risks. (I didn't know what I was doing at the time but I was so frustrated at that point I didn't mind if the battery blew up in my face.)
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And still no luck
Samsung's device become more ****ty each generations..... Esp the battery...
This one is the replacement batt they gave me after 2mos of usage for infamous Tab S battery issue...
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Samsung tablets only have issue with battery connectors. The white connector with 6 wires has loose connection, the black connector soldered to mainboard has cracked solder joints. New battery won't solve problem if you don't fix these two flaws. Resolder the battery connector will fix most of problems: not charging, reboot, flickering, auto shutdown.
I posted more details in the threat: flickering screen.
so the problem is Samdung's QC....
anyway no more somedung, I switched to Xiaomi Mi Mix, still preordering from China.....
You have to watch these chinies owened tablet and phone manufactues, they have been found to come with built in spyware, sending copys of all your texts ect back to china, it`s been in the news that last few day`s
Lenovo notebooks had a spyware app and Lenovo had to issue insturctions on hot to remove it once it was found.
John.
Crescendo Xenomorph said:
so the problem is Samdung's QC....
anyway no more somedung, I switched to Xiaomi Mi Mix, still preordering from China.....
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That's OK, I can scan and remove all those spyware.
Still its better to have it properly supported with actual updates (older phone still got all UI + android update, hello MIUI 8).
Rather than using phone without proper software support....
Tab S - buggy and prolly the last MM update
Note 3 - useless LL update, very unstable, consider alpha
Note 8.0 - buggy last KK update, switched to CM13 and happy with it
I sold a Galaxy Note 2 on amazon and it was returned with the water indicator positive on both the battery and the phone itself. Unfortunately, Amazon overrode my decision on not to refund the customer, so now I am stuck with a defective phone.
I took it apart and left it in rice for weeks and bought a new battery because the one in there had blown up like a balloon. The phone powers on and charges and it appeared to be working fine up until I attempted to use it for a day. It crashes and the battery drains from 100% to 20% when powered back on. Is there any way to fix this device?
Thanks.
First of all im sorry to hear about your loss, The thing you have mentioned seems like there is still moisture in the phone. You have already mentioned you placed the phone in the rice, I hope you have airtight the packet as well ?? What is the temperature there? If you have a country like sun shining and hot weather then you can place your phone and battery at the car dashboard. Which will warm the phone internally.
If you have a short circuit and motherboard then you need a technician. But as you mentioned phone is working fine and only problem is draining of battery than it looks like phone have moisture.