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Apologize beforehand for the n00bness. This is my first post and I'll try and keep it clean. I've been trying to get push to talk working but for the life of me, it's no go. Originally the plan was for me to try to get it working with Custel's Windows Mobile Black Cingular Edition, but I can't figure out how to get it from the regular Cingular edition to Custel's GREAT cooked version. The way's i've tried are as such:
Taking out everything from the Extended Rom and identifying the PTT *registry?* cab and installing it.
Going into the Device\Windows\PTT and the Device\Windows\ Folder and copying all the necessary files
Nothing seems to be working. On another note, I can't seem to get VoiceBuffer to copy over. Any ideas? Thanks in advance guys! And the march continues~
Even if we can get PTT working, would we only be able to use it with other cingular customers? Or people with other carriers also?
TheGenix said:
Even if we can get PTT working, would we only be able to use it with other cingular customers? Or people with other carriers also?
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Only cingular customers.
If you search you will find your answer as to why it does not work. If it was that easy it would have been functional a long time ago.
Hey Custel!
Thanks for Cingular Black!
Yea i'm still trying to search and figure everything all out. I feel technologically retarded right now.
Infornography said:
Hey Custel!
Thanks for Cingular Black!
Yea i'm still trying to search and figure everything all out. I feel technologically retarded right now.
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No problem, going to have cingular version based off of my rom tomorrow some time as well .
If it has PTT I'll love you. The Cingular Black Edition you put out is almost PERFECT for me, except the whole PTT thing, it's driving me mad!
So I have been searching for two days and I can't find the PTT install cab. Where is it, I just did a WM6 ROM and I would like to use PTT as I use it for work. Anyone able to help
Coinstar99 said:
So I have been searching for two days and I can't find the PTT install cab. Where is it, I just did a WM6 ROM and I would like to use PTT as I use it for work. Anyone able to help
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yes...
YOU CANNOT USE PTT ON WM6!!
as it requires editing the rilgsm and ril.dll's that control the radio interface layer (RIL) for PTT to work...
Well...... um that was nice of you. Thats all anyone needed to say. Thanks for the subtle answer
Coinstar99 said:
Well...... um that was nice of you. Thats all anyone needed to say. Thanks for the subtle answer
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anytime
walshieau said:
anytime
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So let me get this straight?
PTT will not work on WM6?
Jim
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
So let me get this straight?
PTT will not work on WM6?
Jim
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until HTC or Cingular release the ril and rilgsm.dll 's for WM6 then no it wont work
laughs....i dont think one could find a clearer answer than that.
walshieau said:
until HTC or Cingular release the ril and rilgsm.dll 's for WM6 then no it wont work
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the ril's from wm5 work on wm6... the app will also run on wm6... there is just one slight problem... no one can get the PTT button to work... however there may be a solution soon, the cing/att Kaiser rom that was posted by incognitho is wm6 and has PTT.. people are working on porting that over to hermes, if all else fails i keep hearing that att will have a wm6 rom for hermes in july (i dont think it will be for the public, but i could be wrong)
Quite honestly, PTT would be nice but not necessary for me. I currently have an LG 400 on my business plan (6 phones) and well...I don't need it on my 8525 right now, except to stop carrying 2 phones with me.
Jim
Newb-Tech-Realtor said:
I don't need it on my 8525 right now, except to stop carrying 2 phones with me.
Jim
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sounds like a good enough reason to me
shogunmark said:
sounds like a good enough reason to me
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LOL.
I'm a realtor and investor and it seems like a badge of honor. The more phones you carry the more important you are....NOT!
LOL.
Jim
By the way, if anyone wants to know how they can have their house pay for itself and structure a 10 year retirement plan. Hit me up with a PM (This will probably be deleted for spam. LOL.
does anyone knows if there would be a release of the ril and rilgsm.dll 's for WM6 so we can use ppt?
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does anyone knows if there would be a release of the ril and rilgsm.dll 's for WM6 so we can use ppt?
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Yes, they were just released here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315565
CUSTEL said:
Yes, they were just released here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315565
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Very funny!!!!!
Just curious if there is anyone out there that can get the PTT app from the new cingular ROM such that it can be installed on WM6 or non ATT Hermes ROM's.
maybe if someone rip it out of DPadMenu.dll which is also used for Smart Dialling, or the other solution is to remove it with smart dialing.
If it was that easy there would already be a ptt wm6 rom.
I know Sleuth had a PTTfix cab from a while back that added the functionality (it worked very well too)... I'm curious if the PTT software in the new official ROM is the same or newer. Has anyone looked into that?
-Steve
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I know Sleuth had a PTTfix cab from a while back that added the functionality (it worked very well too)... I'm curious if the PTT software in the new official ROM is the same or newer. Has anyone looked into that?
-Steve
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let me give you the quick and simple answer...
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If it was that easy there would already be a ptt wm6 rom.
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let me give you a more serious answer... this has been worked on since i first recieved a rom with PTT on it late last year... i havent had a whole lot of time.. and the software itself works for the most part... but there is 1 important part that does not work, after we can make that work then it will be possible to port to WM6... but as custel said.. its not that easy... congratulations to cingy and HTC for making this very difficult to achieve...
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let me give you a more serious answer... this has been worked on since i first recieved a rom with PTT on it late last year... i havent had a whole lot of time.. and the software itself works for the most part... but there is 1 important part that does not work, after we can make that work then it will be possible to port to WM6... but as custel said.. its not that easy... congratulations to cingy and HTC for making this very difficult to achieve...
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btw mark the email you forwarded me didn't have the attachment, that's one thing I've noticed with m2w if you forward an email it doesnt send the attachment with it
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btw mark the email you forwarded me didn't have the attachment, that's one thing I've noticed with m2w if you forward an email it doesnt send the attachment with it
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g*d [email protected] M2W.... if it wasnt free and conveniant most of the time i would take my free business elsewhere, lol... ok, i will resend it, and not forward this time...
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g*d [email protected] M2W.... if it wasnt free and conveniant most of the time i would take my free business elsewhere, lol... ok, i will resend it, and not forward this time...
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Thank you sir
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Thank you sir
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you have mail!
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you have mail!
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Thank You Sir
mcrochip said:
I know Sleuth had a PTTfix cab from a while back that added the functionality (it worked very well too)... I'm curious if the PTT software in the new official ROM is the same or newer. Has anyone looked into that?
-Steve
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Sleuth's fix was to regain the button functionality of the PTT button...aka button 5...not the PTT service.
Is there somewhere, where I can get some of the new apps for the new cingular rom 8525 just released on my wm6 custel 1.2?
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Is there somewhere, where I can get some of the new apps for the new cingular rom 8525 just released on my wm6 custel 1.2?
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theres a cab for them in my 1.2 thread in the 2nd post, CV doesn't work though, I haven't had a chance to fix it. I've heard if you install original real player after installing the cab in my 2nd post it will work.
to get PTT to function in WM6 you need to replace the RIL dll's, although its not hard the dll's have been changed and API's have been added.... still working on it
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to get PTT to function in WM6 you need to replace the RIL dll's, although its not hard the dll's have been changed and API's have been added.... still working on it
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yes, the ril's are very important!!! Just gotta make that button work....
I'm back from MEDC with the new WM6 SDK's in hand. I'll see if I can get the button shim done next week.
Check out JJ's new Rom. Black 4-Shadow. Sweet!
Based on the new touch rom. Will be released by JJ this weekend on www.4winmobile.com. JJ is still da man. Wish he wouldn't have left.
Look out... this will cause some debate on here! Mind you it does look sweet.
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Based on the new touch rom. Will be released by JJ this weekend on www.4winmobile.com. JJ is still da man. Wish he wouldn't have left.
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arluckett2002 said:
Based on the new touch rom. Will be released by JJ this weekend on www.4winmobile.com. JJ is still da man. Wish he wouldn't have left.
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its not based on the new touch ROM as the Touch ROM isnt for the Hermes... just the HTC Home Plug has been ported from the HTC elf... but as i have found the 17745 Release build has its issues... so only time will tell....
looks rather nice though... like the look of the home plugin wonder if it will be ported just as an install....
Just a bit too much colour custonizration for me....
D
I've just posted a question on the "other" forums about that very thing - I didn't think it would have all the touchy feely bits in it as well Oh well...
As a matter of interest, is it hardware limitation? Is the HTCTouch a "multitouch" screen or is it just a new app? From what I've seen in the vids, it should be possibly for the hermes to do the same things...
Smiffy.
My understanding is that the look is simply the new HTC house look - with some added JJ Black-ness...
The Touch software should theoretically work with any touch screen WM device as it relies on the user swiping a finger across the screen - which we can already do with Hermes etc.
Mmm... sweet. Where can I download? NOW!!
Alright, wait until the weekend. I will have to check JJ's new HQ to see what extra will be packed. I only hope the new UI is not a huge resource hog. If not I will just stick with 3.5 for now.
It remains to be seen... but it does look very nice.
do you know what is the CE build? 5.1.x or 5.2.x? (i need it to be 5.2 so i can install my wm6 hebrew language support...that's why i havnt used JJ roms so far )
in the 4winmobile forum, he states that the os build is "official". does that mean it's 5.2 (wm6 build) without the 5.1 hex edit?
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black shadow will not be hex edit to support crackberry as WM6 is being release next week.
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that's from the 4winmobile forum...so i guess i got my answer
Yes it is CE 5.2.xxxx
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but as i have found the 17745 Release build has its issues... so only time will tell....
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"issues"? Microsoft comes with an official build wich has issues!? Smart move. But then again: it's Microsoft...
does anybody know if its got that scrolling contact book?
looks really good
Looks great...
I just want that dialer skin!
Today screen looks amazing too...
good show. now we only have to hope that it works just like htc touch and we're back in business!!!
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good show. now we only have to hope that it works just like htc touch and we're back in business!!!
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i dont think that's the case as was stated earlier that the today plug-in was ported from the HTC Elf, rather than the whole ROM being a HTC Touch ROM. it does look good though.
Guess I'll be flashing the 8525 again this weekend
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do you know what is the CE build? 5.1.x or 5.2.x? (i need it to be 5.2 so i can install my wm6 hebrew language support...that's why i havnt used JJ roms so far )
in the 4winmobile forum, he states that the os build is "official". does that mean it's 5.2 (wm6 build) without the 5.1 hex edit?
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that's from the 4winmobile forum...so i guess i got my answer
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it still needs to be hex-edited for BBC to work... as Blackberry Connect is for WM5 devices only... RIM will be releasing the Virtural Blackberry software for WM6 in October...
I am sorry cannot wait anyone have a leaked rtm wm6 rom for hermes please share thanks in advced!
leoiden said:
I am sorry cannot wait anyone have a leaked rtm wm6 rom for hermes please share thanks in advced!
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I'm sure if anyone had one it would have been shared...best to wait a day or 2 for JJ's
anyway we can just get the cab for the plugin\theme, instead of a whole ROM? i'm happy with LVSW, but i want that homescreen!
Sorry if this has been posted before but I could not find any hits on the search regarding BB Messenger for WM6. Does anyone know if there is a working version for this OS?
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Sorry if this has been posted before but I could not find any hits on the search regarding BB Messenger for WM6. Does anyone know if there is a working version for this OS?
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you mean Blackberry Connect... it works without HexEdit on WM6 Builds 5.2.1238 (17745.0.2.3)
other WM6 builds have to be edited to either the Version above or 5.1.195
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you mean Blackberry Connect... it works without HexEdit on WM6 Builds 5.2.1238 (17745.0.2.3)
other WM6 builds have to be edited to either the Version above or 5.1.195
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I already am using BB Connect 4.0.0.67, the BB Messenger is what I am looking for.
Thanks.
Messenger is not supported on BBC 4.x
I wonder if they could port the chat-like text app from the Blackberry. The chat style log is better than what we have in our Hermes.
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I wonder if they could port the chat-like text app from the Blackberry. The chat style log is better than what we have in our Hermes.
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like SMSThreader?
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/smsthreader.shtml
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like SMSThreader?
http://www.freewareppc.com/communication/smsthreader.shtml
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Actually, I have a CAB for Palm SMS Threader which works great in almost every ROM, BUT, Black Shadow only because the ROM has SMS and MMS compiled into one folder so when you use the Threader app you lose the option for MMS, and I can't live w/o that! Hopefully someone will fix that, or make one for that ROM. Check out "Palm SMS Threader". I started a thread a few pages ago with a CAB in it, but get the CAB posted on like page 3 cause it's condensed by someone and works the same. Just a smaller file.
same needs
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I already am using BB Connect 4.0.0.67, the BB Messenger is what I am looking for.
Thanks.
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Did you find the BB messenger for wm 6.0 ?
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Did you find the BB messenger for wm 6.0 ?
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Considering that he posted that over 2 years ago, I doubt you'll find out.
jacanas said:
Did you find the BB messenger for wm 6.0 ?
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I think its a junk post... please close this thread
Hey people,
I have been noticing recently that the touch flo is working on on various devices, but i was wondering if it is working on the hermes yet (actually ising finger flo, not button flow)
this link shows a vid of touch flo *FULLY* working on a different device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkwzBAuo2rQ
ive checked both web pages and i cant seem to find a definative answer.
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Hey people,
I have been noticing recently that the touch flo is working on on various devices, but i was wondering if it is working on the hermes yet (actually ising finger flo, not button flow)
this link shows a vid of touch flo *FULLY* working on a different device
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkwzBAuo2rQ
ive checked both web pages and i cant seem to find a definative answer.
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No there isnt any ROM that works with touchflo for the hermes, only buttonflo, and that sucks I tried it once and its crap (as you know).
I searched and searched on every forum or blog or google.com whatever but no luck for the Hermes. I guess we have to wait to get our hands on the Kaiser. That supports touchflo (As far as I know. After a few adjustments)
grtz
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No there isnt any ROM that works with touchflo for the hermes, only buttonflo, and that sucks I tried it once and its crap (as you know).
I searched and searched on every forum or blog or google.com whatever but no luck for the Hermes. I guess we have to wait to get our hands on the Kaiser. That supports touchflo (As far as I know. After a few adjustments)
grtz
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ahhh the poor hermes is loosing fans
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ahhh the poor hermes is loosing fans
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I think the hermes is one of the best devices that HTC ever had. But the Kaiser is just a level higher..
So Kaiser will be my next device..
I don't buy it that the Hermes doesn't "support" TouchFlo. What does TouchFlo require that is so much more sophisticated than ButtonFlo?
If the dang Artemis can support it, why not Hermes.. lol
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I don't buy it that the Hermes doesn't "support" TouchFlo. What does TouchFlo require that is so much more sophisticated than ButtonFlo?
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From what i understand it is somehting to do with the touch.dll, but i dont know what, why or how!!
but i do agree with you that it doesnt require any special hardware so i cant understand y it wouldnt work, but im equally sure that there is a very good reason as to why it wont work.
We need to find someone smarter than us to explain it to us!!
Exactly. Not to mention the fact that I have an app on my Hermes that does that exact little "flick and roll" thing and it works fine.
What application is that Stpete?
iContact -
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-icontact-v0-2.html
The entire thing is 12kb... it can't be that hard.
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iContact -
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-icontact-v0-2.html
The entire thing is 12kb... it can't be that hard.
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thats wat im saying 12kb and its half way there surely, it is possible to have a horizontal axis as well as the vertical, and there must be a way to link watever makes this work to the touchflo cube!!!
Should have touchflo working shortly, testing now. Watch the kitchen thread, that's where it'll happen.
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Should have touchflo working shortly, testing now. Watch the kitchen thread, that's where it'll happen.
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can you give a link to this thread please?
Matt are you making a ROM based on the new HTC official release?
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Matt are you making a ROM based on the new HTC official release?
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This first one is from bepe's base. Still getting my feet wet with the new hardware. I'm open to suggestions
I would base it off the official release that came out this morning Matt.. In all seriousness, the other ROMs are going to be obsolete.. if you can make it with the official release I will beta test for you all day long.
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I would base it off the official release that came out this morning Matt.. In all seriousness, the other ROMs are going to be obsolete.. if you can make it with the official release I will beta test for you all day long.
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I thought the ones JJ and sleuth came out with were better than the official? they have better build numbers etc, JJ and sleuth have developer roms available.
(if i am incorrect please correct me, i would actually like to know, thanks in advance!!)
the new JJ rom Black Satin are based off the official release of the Dopod 838pro rom that came out this morning... which is why they werent released until this morning since they were RTM .. new build numbers...17944.0.3.1 ...
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the new JJ rom Black Satin are based off the official release of the Dopod 838pro rom that came out this morning... which is why they werent released until this morning since they were RTM .. new build numbers...17944.0.3.1 ...
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exactly so surely using the the os from black satin would be better?
Yup.. definately.. I don't think he is using the ROM from black satin.. is he?