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I wouldn't say I love Microsoft, but they do have the market for computer software and I do have quite a bit of their hardware, the MS stearing wheel been a fine bit of kit.
I have used Windows operating systems since Windows 3.1 to the present XP (Vista any day now). I have been using a PocketPC for the past few years with software ranging from Windows Mobile 2003 to the 2005 version, all under licence from the vendor I bourght the phone from.
Whilst the pre packaged software on my PDA is all good and well I have had a much more productive and fun time using my device since I stumbled across XDA-developers.com website, usefull information, people who are in the same boat and development on the software to only increese the usabillity of it.
This is the reason I started this thread.
Everyone that own's a PocketPC/PDA has bourght it. This means that once the device has been bourght you have paid for the Microsoft licence of the installed software.
When you buy a copy of Windows for your home or business computer you have a few differnet ways you can install the software, there are lots of third party bits of software you can install, so you can customize the way your computer is setup.
Microsoft are gonna make xda-developers.com to take down the files that are posted on this site.
I believe that as we have all payed to have the software on our PDA's we have the right to have any version that we want, modified or not. Yes, we shouldn't have versions that haven't been "officially" realeased on our PDA's but even with those there are people who have got the ROM's and made them better.
Microsoft should be quite gratefull that there are people out there to make a bit of software they have developed even better, why should it be any skin of there noses for a bit of software they have allready been paid for!!!
Microsoft can't stop new ROM's been realesed on the internet, if Vista is on all the torrent sites there's no way they are gonna stop a new Windows Mobile ROM appearing.
To conclude...Microsoft should know a good thing when they see it. XDA-Developers.com is that!
Well laid out. I totally agree with you. What M$ doesn't understand is that more roms will start to fly around on un-monitored sites. These sites will lack the support provided at xda-developers and customer complains will sky rocket through the roofs.
Like jack bauer say... "Damn it M$", we need our own Chloe O'brian (a mean betatester)... YOU GUYS!
LONG LIFE XDA-DEVELOPERS!!!
You are right !
M$ have a basic problem in their buisness concept ... not letting people have the freedom that they need and want to upgrade and evolve their OS
And that's why (i believe) people are starting to switch to other OS like OSX or linux.
I am very much afraid that it will also start happening in our mobile decives with symbian and others ...
because although WM5 (and 6) tend to .... crash, hang, or just not work, in my opinion it is the most versitile OS there is .... plenty of programs for it ... and plenty of programmers making new stuff as they go, and that's without including ROM maker which are a whole highly respectable group on their own.
I believe that it is our decision to upgrade, as well as our legal right(for the OS' price is no doubt included in the device's retail price) BUT people must have no right to complain after screwing with their device or worse (bricking it).
And in that respect i agree with M$.
So i propose the middle ground, asking M$ if writing a diclaimer here on XDA that users must go through before downloading and/or upgrading their device will do, and hope that they accept.
if not ...
find a legal loophole, because I for one am not willing to give XDA up just yet !
sorry if i bored you guys, but that's just the way i feel about this whole thing.
UPGRADE ON !
heh.
I have never been one to defend Microsoft, but from reading their letter carefully, it would appear it has more to do with the mobile operators putting pressure on them. Two things I would like to say in response to this.
1) If the mobile operators and manufacturers would employ developers who were even half as quick and resourceful as the developers here, they might actually have sold me a phone that worked properly to start with, unlike my SPV M5000 which was crashing on a daily basis, even with their latest ROM, until I updated it with a ROM from this forum. Had I not been saved by this this amazing forum, I would have demanded a refund, Orange would have lost money and I would have moved to a different company.
2) People who update their phones with ROM images from this forum should know better than to seek support from their mobile operator after having updated their ROM. They should have known that they would not like this.
Now we all have to suffer.
They'll have to face't!
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I have never been one to defend Microsoft, but from reading their letter carefully, it would appear it has more to do with the mobile operators putting pressure on them. Two things I would like to say in response to this.
1) If the mobile operators and manufacturers would employ developers who were even half as quick and resourceful as the developers here, they might actually have sold me a phone that worked properly to start with, unlike my SPV M5000 which was crashing on a daily basis, even with their latest ROM, until I updated it with a ROM from this forum. Had I not been saved by this this amazing forum, I would have demanded a refund, Orange would have lost money and I would have moved to a different company.
2) People who update their phones with ROM images from this forum should know better than to seek support from their mobile operator after having updated their ROM. They should have known that they would not like this.
Now we all have to suffer.
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I have never gone to my mobile operator nor the phone support service center! I have not a single doubt in my mind that I know better than the "technician" sitting behind his desk claiming to fix my PDA whenever it hicks up!
This forum and only THIS FORUM, helped 100K of people to fix their own PDAs and even created a wide knowledge to those beginners who knew nada about roms or tweaking pdas!
But sorry to say that OS developers have gone too far this time and as it was rightly said, the tighter and tougher they become the more roms ther will be out there even more than they can imagine, since it is a challenge they've started, they'll have to face't.
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I have never been one to defend Microsoft, but from reading their letter carefully, it would appear it has more to do with the mobile operators putting pressure on them.
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I think that, in this case, M$ is hiding itself behind the mobile operators. Bit too easy, ain't it...
In the end
In the end it all comes down to this:
We ALL get F*CKED in the (*) by Bill Gates and his friends
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In the end it all comes down to this:
We ALL get F*CKED in the (*) by Bill Gates and his friends
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What an amazingly constructive comment you made there...... I would say that this is just a part of life and there is nothing we can do about it. To be honest we all knew this course of action was inevitable.
This action is corporate companies trying to protect there product - can you really blame them for that....... Money makes the world go round and all that...
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1) If the mobile operators and manufacturers would employ developers who were even half as quick and resourceful as the developers here, they might actually have sold me a phone that worked properly to start with...
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Well why don't they employ US
I am unemployed atm...
I just downloaded and flashed the following rom:
Kavana’s 6.1 ROM
And I found there were many unlicensed software in it. Does xda-developer forum support cracking, pirate warz?
If not so, why you guys accept those roms and even recommand them?
If so, forgive me.
were they full versions or did you have to input the correct serial or whatever it is that you use to register it?
I don't need to input serial number. They're fully functional, but they're cracked versions.
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I just downloaded and flashed the following rom:
Kavana’s 6.1 ROM
And I found there were many unlicensed software in it. Does xda-developer forum support cracking, pirate warz?
If not so, why you guys accept those roms and even recommand them?
If so, forgive me.
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There is software in the roms that are considered wares. Your officially a pirate lol
well, the 6.1 itself is not legal, why should the rest of it be! Isnt this like complaining that my Corporate Edition XP Pro came with pirated Office 2007?
Traidoresss
KAVANA IS THE BESTmad:
Please remove your user name chanty as i own copywrite of chantyin plural of chanty, if you dont i shall gain the write to your pocket money...
My point is that this thread is pointless, just like my reply is.......
stylez said:
Please remove your user name chanty as i own copywrite of chantyin plural of chanty, if you dont i shall gain the write to your pocket money...
My point is that this thread is pointless, just like my reply is.......
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Shall I hold him up by his ankles while you shake him, see how much pocket money falls out?? lol
Another pointless comment....totally agree Stylez
I agree with the original poster. Why do people see this thread as a joke or useless? Using wm6.1 on our devices is one thing (wm6.1 is not available commercially for the average consumer to buy, so no loss is being incurred by M$.... anyway its a long discussion which has already been beaten to death on the forums), however pirating other developers out of the income from apps that they actually depend on.... well, it should certainly not be done in ROMs posted on the forum.
Chandy, do you have a list of softwares on these ROMs which are pirated? (I'm using the same ROM as well, but dont know which ones are pirated. I guess Resco Explorer is one.. what else?)
OMG you seriously figured out a way to defend stealing WM6.1 yet not the supporting software? Kudos to you
Personally I never use the software included, I like vanilla roms. But wow
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I agree with the original poster. Why do people see this thread as a joke or useless? Using wm6.1 on our devices is one thing (wm6.1 is not available commercially for the average consumer to buy, so no loss is being incurred by M$.... anyway its a long discussion which has already been beaten to death on the forums), however pirating other developers out of the income from apps that they actually depend on.... well, it should certainly not be done in ROMs posted on the forum.
Chandy, do you have a list of softwares on these ROMs which are pirated? (I'm using the same ROM as well, but dont know which ones are pirated. I guess Resco Explorer is one.. what else?)
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Wake up smell the coffe realize how long ROM developers take to make ROMs, stop sit back and don't complain as you could really spoil the brew....
This isn't to say that i'm not grateful for the ROM developers... Their (your) efforts have made my wizard and excalibur both a joy to use. However if it can be done without using cracked software, why not? I mean, why not pick total command in place of resco explorer?
If the chef has the recipe and the ingredients required are owned by said chef should he not be able to serve his pie according to the recipe? lolz
ammarr said:
I agree with the original poster. Why do people see this thread as a joke or useless? Using wm6.1 on our devices is one thing (wm6.1 is not available commercially for the average consumer to buy, so no loss is being incurred by M$.... anyway its a long discussion which has already been beaten to death on the forums), however pirating other developers out of the income from apps that they actually depend on.... well, it should certainly not be done in ROMs posted on the forum.
Chandy, do you have a list of softwares on these ROMs which are pirated? (I'm using the same ROM as well, but dont know which ones are pirated. I guess Resco Explorer is one.. what else?)
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I have removed the 6.1 ROM. At least the following software are pirated:
1. Resco Explorer and Registry Editor
2. Orneta Calc
3. CeleTask
4. Orneta Notepad
I think xda-developers forum does not support pirated software officially. I read several posts here telling people don't request warez and serial numbers. That is reason for which I asked the question.
Adding pirated software in cooked rom is a very bad idea because I have no way to remove them. We also don't know if they contain virus, backdoors, or something harmful.
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If the chef has the recipe and the ingredients required are owned by said chef should he not be able to serve his pie according to the recipe? lolz
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And im loving the pie that is being served personally lol...
chanty said:
I have removed the 6.1 ROM. At least the following software are pirated:
1. Resco Explorer and Registry Editor
2. Orneta Calc
3. CeleTask
4. Orneta Notepad
I think xda-developers forum does not support pirated software officially. I read several posts here telling people don't request warez and serial numbers. That is reason for which I asked the question.
Adding pirated software in cooked rom is a very bad idea because I have no way to remove them. We also don't know if they contain virus, backdoors, or something harmful.
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First of all, you need to do a bit of reading if you think that any software included by trusted ROM developers is going to contain a virus or harmful content. These ROMs would already have been removed if they contained such material, considering they go through vigorous testing by us end users.
Secondly, if the ROM developer purchased the software in the first place, they have the right to use it so long as the EULA (if included) does not state it cannot be redistributed without permission. Without an EULA stating this(most applications do not come with one) the developer is free to use it as he wishes since he has purchased a license for it.
That being said, live with the ROM, or flash back to your carrier's slow and less useful WM6.
I find it hard to believe that Resco would be stupid enough not to have the owner agree to the EULA. The point is, if someone went to the trouble of going to each of the developer's pages and see if they have you agree to an EULA with the installation, would these softwares be removed from the cooked roms? Frankly, piracy is an issue, and we really shouldn't be so lax with it.
why don't you nancy's shut the hell up and go prance in someone else's garden...
nobody is twisting your arms
we are all a bunch of people who aren't content to live with the buggy, slow, and mainly horrible roms that come with a stock phone. nobody here is trying to financially benefit from cooking roms, or from any other software.
thank you for being "concerned" about us, but I think most of us know how to wipe our own asses...
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why don't you nancy's shut the hell up and go prance in someone else's garden...
nobody is twisting your arms
we are all a bunch of people who aren't content to live with the buggy, slow, and mainly horrible roms that come with a stock phone. nobody here is trying to financially benefit from cooking roms, or from any other software.
thank you for being "concerned" about us, but I think most of us know how to wipe our own asses...
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Spot on as my reponse was going to be i'd like to stick this thread where the sun doesn't shine, now i don't have to as you got the innuendo in there anyway, well in an ideal world people would just shut up and realize that the world owes them nothing and no one is really listening, just like we are just responding but not listening...
Well i eat this thread.
jasonusmaximus said:
why don't you nancy's shut the hell up and go prance in someone else's garden...
nobody is twisting your arms
we are all a bunch of people who aren't content to live with the buggy, slow, and mainly horrible roms that come with a stock phone. nobody here is trying to financially benefit from cooking roms, or from any other software.
thank you for being "concerned" about us, but I think most of us know how to wipe our own asses...
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Spot on as my reponse was going to be i'd like to stick this thread where the sun doesn't shine, now i don't have to as you got the innuendo in there anyway, well in an ideal world people would just shut up and realize that the world owes them nothing and no one is really listening, just like we are just responding but not listening...
Well i eat this thread.
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I agree with you both but, Jasonus, I don't think there is a need for name calling or such stern words as "shut the hell up". We can be better people than that, right?
I had been used to then making roms for my Windows Mobile phone to download the language packs for the rom. But found that a socalled MS Internet Investigator had threatend the poster of these packages to remove them.
I wonder do you thinks that Microsoft will kill this site one day?
Well, certainly, the site will live as there is a lot of free (copyrighted ) software here, developed by XDA members. It is not only about WM6.5.
As for it, you still have China . ROMBeta for example. Or probably the takedown was a hoax.
IMHO MS just used us . They read the thread to get to know about bugs of their recent builds. All we were their free testers. And now, as WM6.5 is officially out, it is a copyrighted product, and we don't have permission to do smth unless we buy it.
I do not like when I am used in such a rude manner, so I will continue using my Diamond, and when it breaks, make sure to buy an Android phone from HTC .
Of course all these words are rubbish, if it was a hoax and we will continue experiencing WM6.5 .
Sensitive material: the xda-developers point of view.
Quote taken from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1104604&postcount=1
"However with increased popularity comes an increased amount of legal complaints when sensitive material is found on our servers. Which is the reason why we have been more careful lately. Recently some sensitive material has shown up on the servers and we received legal complaints from companies who have the copyrights for this material, although we all feel this is very interesting and valuable material we cannot risk the future of xda-developers by ignoring the legal requests we receive, therefore this material has been taken offline."
yeah, they care more about keeping their cashcrop site up than the actual users. there aint no reason they couldnt rapidshare them files and post the new links in the thread, see the entire blueangel/wallaby sections. its all ftp links that are dead.
i'm sure i'll catch heat for my pro-user point of view here, but the fact remains they make more than enough money on this site to buy a decent server that doesnt take 30seconds to load, and maybe not removing the only link to a file leaving people completely SOL.
ms won't do anything to xda. xda sells more WM phones than ms could ever do alone, i know this because its 90% of the reason why i own as many HTCs as i do.
i love xda, but the management irks me. and the disorganization of it.
Not this garbage again!!
Are we sure that this "internet investigator" is real now? The last time it was some punk saying that they represented M$ and because of him, a bunch of roms ended up being taken down (even if they were not hosted in the xda servers.
I am so tired of this crap it isn't even funny...
@OneSman,
M$ isn't really using you since they are not offering you anything for free. You just happen to see it and use it. If you happen to report bugs, it is for the Chefs and not for M$ (however, they get to read your comments/reports as well). Don't expect any developer to give you any freebies simply because you are beta testing something. I still have to see the dev who does that.
@cerjam,
The management of XDA irks you? Why? If you are sent a letter from a company that has enough lawyers to sue you till the middle of next week, you will take corrective action. End of story... I think XDA's management is superb considering the amount of flow of information and users in this site.
Please lets not make another epic thread(s) for this "investigator" until we know it is a real M$ as$h0l3.
i own a few shady sites. i don't bend over for dmca or supposed emails from maybe some idiot from some company.
there is no reason they have to piss on the userbase like they do.
sure, i can see a problem hosting the **** in the xda-dev ftp. but it is irresponsible to the community to not have backups and to not make the files obtainable elsewhere.
point is they put ms and other pricks over their users. the people who make them money, who keep their site alive. there is no legal reason for them to bend over and just go OK /DELETE. specially without warning.
cerjam said:
i own a few shady sites. i don't bend over for dmca or supposed emails from maybe some idiot from some company.
there is no reason they have to piss on the userbase like they do.
sure, i can see a problem hosting the **** in the xda-dev ftp. but it is irresponsible to the community to not have backups and to not make the files obtainable elsewhere.
point is they put ms and other pricks over their users. the people who make them money, who keep their site alive. there is no legal reason for them to bend over and just go OK /DELETE. specially without warning.
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Don't get me wrong, I hate them as much as I can (and then some), but the site admins have to play it safe... because they have such a large user base, they have to ensure that the site will keep on going and that it won't be taken down. I do agree about the back ups though...
playing it safe is fine. im just pissed off to no goddamn end, i buy any phone older than 2years? WELP SORRY MAN OUT OF LUCK BECAUSE MS EMAILED US =D
which is very very irksome, you have a blueangel you should understand lmfao
cerjam said:
yeah, they care more about keeping their cashcrop site up than the actual users. there aint no reason they couldnt rapidshare them files and post the new links in the thread, see the entire blueangel/wallaby sections. its all ftp links that are dead.
i'm sure i'll catch heat for my pro-user point of view here, but the fact remains they make more than enough money on this site to buy a decent server that doesnt take 30seconds to load, and maybe not removing the only link to a file leaving people completely SOL.
ms won't do anything to xda. xda sells more WM phones than ms could ever do alone, i know this because its 90% of the reason why i own as many HTCs as i do.
i love xda, but the management irks me. and the disorganization of it.
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Yeah, I suppose they could use RapidShare or something, but if they upload all their files all at once to RapidShare, that could lead a suspicious trail, and what are they gonna say? "MS E-mailed us, so we put all of our illegal files on RapidShare." Lighten up a bit. It's FAR better to have a website with all the tools to learn how to mod your own device and to try and find the files yourself (which I'm sure are out there), than to have the files for at most a few months or a year or so and then have this site, probably the best WM site in existence, completely go under. Besides, if people have to work to find the files, it'll make the end product feel that much nicer.
I don't know American Law (XDA is an American Site?)
But lets say it was in Denmark. But anyway. Here Microsoft would have to go to court and get a courtorder to make a website remove links that MS or any other feelt threatened their business.
Is the law different in the US?
/Fred
p.s. How does one become a payed Internet Investigator? I would love to have such a job insteed my current one
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I don't know American Law (XDA is an American Site?)
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Thanks no!
I think XDA is Neederlands
Microsoft kills Windows Mobile ?
It is possible that Windows Mobile 6.5 is the last and final Windows Mobile release from Microsoft.
In what you base for saying that?
WM7.................
sleurhut said:
It is possible that Windows Mobile 6.5 is the last and final Windows Mobile release from Microsoft.
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Well, Many rumors are milling around for a WM7 and then WM7.1, I don't know the authenticity of this rumors, but couple of years back I heard a rumor that WM 6.5 is coming out.... so let's hope we get more upgrades, unless MS decided not to cash on WM mobiles. Will they?!
Shiv
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It is possible that Windows Mobile 6.5 is the last and final Windows Mobile release from Microsoft.
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Im pretty sure Steve Ballmer talked about windows mobile 7 in an interview so its kinda official just no time for release or anything yet
kaptix said:
Im pretty sure Steve Ballmer talked about windows mobile 7 in an interview so its kinda official just no time for release or anything yet
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There he is.
..i closed the tab without posting. damnit.
a) wm7s been confirmed. it's going to be ms's version of the iphones OS, the last decent WM was 5 before ms went all change-happy.
and b) ms couldnt prove anything. xda couldve setup a good data-hosting service that couldnt be traced. i imagine they make enough money off this site that they could do alot of things to make this site better.
and on that note, does anyone have any idea as to why whoever owns xda is too damn cheap to buy a decent server for xda. it's constantly slow and dead, i know damnwell they make massive money off donations and adcash. a decent server is maybe 1k a month, you're telling me theseguys are so broke they cant even put alittle of the community cash back into it?
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It is possible that Windows Mobile 6.5 is the last and final Windows Mobile release from Microsoft.
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Microsoft confirms multi-touch, designates WM7 to high-end, while keeping WM 6.5 for mass market
http://www.unwiredview.com/2009/08/...igh-end-while-keeping-wm-6-5-for-mass-market/
cerjam said:
i imagine they make enough money off this site that they could do alot of things to make this site better.
and on that note, does anyone have any idea as to why whoever owns xda is too damn cheap to buy a decent server for xda. it's constantly slow and dead, i know damnwell they make massive money off donations and adcash. a decent server is maybe 1k a month, you're telling me theseguys are so broke they cant even put alittle of the community cash back into it?
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How much money do you think the owners make off of a site that runs on donations?
Most of the money is going to the developers on the site and not the owners I'm sure.
they have ads. with thousands of people per day. they make massive cash, i don't care what anyone says. at least enough to pay for a decent server.
Ok, so I am having this discussion with some iPhone fanboys claiming everything about the iPhone is so darned original and that Apple invented it all. However, I know they didn't and that some old devices from 2001 - 2003 could do just the same. Of course they think I'm full of it. So, I read a post about it here @ XDA last year but can't for the life of me find the post in question and desperately want to prove them wrong without stepping in the salad...
Could someone please give me a heads up if they know what I am talking about?
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Ok, so I am having this discussion with some iPhone fanboys claiming everything about the iPhone is so darned original and that Apple invented it all. However, I know they didn't and that some old devices from 2001 - 2003 could do just the same. Of course they think I'm full of it. So, I read a post about it here @ XDA last year but can't for the life of me find the post in question and desperately want to prove them wrong without stepping in the salad...
Could someone please give me a heads up if they know what I am talking about?
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I don't know what post you are talking about, but why not just show them any device with WinMo 2002 - 2003 SE on it? You can find lot's of screen shots on Ebay. Or how about a palm pilot, which looks like a ity-bity iphone, and has pretty much the same UI?
Sometimes it isn't a matter of being first, but being in the right place at the right time with the right product. That's what Apple accomplished. Timing. So they became instantly popular, which generated apps by people wanting the largest market.
In short, Apple's advantage in the smartphone arena is the PC's advantage in the computer field. The larger market gets the most attention by developers. And, as Windows users have found, it's the programs that you buy a computer for, not the operating system. Apple learned and jumped out, probably subsidizing app developers, or at least not making it difficult for them. Windows has lost the advantage--probably permanently--to the iPhone.
Windows 7 Mobile was a tremendous waste of money. The same money spent subsidizing application developers would have accomplished a lot more. When my AT&T current contract is up, I'm moving from HTC to iPhone. The mainstream is where to be, and the mainstream for personal computers is Windows. For smartphones, it's iPhone. Who cares who was first?
Apple has so much apps for every single thing i know why every1 has it coz no matter wat app u look for u will find
i know windows phone 7 is getting there but i was searching for app and i found it but guess wat its on iphone n ipad but not phone 7. the app description is below if a developer want to make it
MyEmpire
MyEmpire is the premiere mobile interface to the popular "Empire Avenue" social stock market that allows you to buy and sell shares in your favourite social media contacts!
The app gives you full access to your portfolio, the ability to buy and sell, update your status, research new Empire Avenue users, read your latest notifications, and access the full profiles of your shareholders as well as the players you've invested in!
Want to see MyEmpire in action? Search for "MyEmpire" on YouTube.
they cant even make a live messenger like the one on windows mobile 6.5
dont get me wrong i love phone 7 but apps will make it good and better
WP7 is NEW!!!! Amazing, I know.
You have 5 options.
1 Contact the developers and ask if a WP7 port is likely,
2 Find and pay someone to develop it for you,
3 Learn to develop and make your own,
4 buy an iphone or
5 Complain about it on message boards and do nothing else about it.
Have a nice day
Everyday there is one muppet who complains about wp7, either they are moving away from wp7 or they dont have the right features. you should have done your reserach and not to blame wp7, its a great os, persoanly the best, yes its behind but its new. where was iphone at this time, kits already has more apps than anyother os during the same time span. if you want to complain pay for a shrink.
tools, and tools
there was just a tool released by ms to port ios applications to wp7. I don't think you'll see much effort from ios developers though, since the payoff from wp7 users would be almost insignificant.
ping the developer and see what they say?
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there was just a tool released by ms to port ios applications to wp7. I don't think you'll see much effort from ios developers though, since the payoff from wp7 users would be almost insignificant.
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Being easy to develope to WP7 have been made to be easy, and MS is having seminars and learn people how to do so. Even if there was no option coming to easily convert apps to WP7, im curious to why they wouldnt?
WP7 users seems to be more then ready to open the wallet (reports say there are developers earning more money on WP7 version compared to Andriod version). So why wouldn't someone want to make money? And lets not forget that a real hit on Marketplace now will destinguish them from other Marketplace apps so the oppertunity alone should be a reason for fame or money or both?
So is it just pure hate from iPhone developers, fanboyism or what ever?
Just curious to hear why you make a statement like that?
I don't know where the problem is with the opener's post. He said he was missing an App and told what it was all about so if someone wanted to do such an App he would know what it was about.
In a swiss forum recently a guy posted about a little tool he would need and several Dev's decided to remove the problem and the App was done by the end of the weekend and should arrive in the Marketplace shortly.
If devs don't know what people want we'll just be seeing more whitescreen torches in the Marketplace that none of us need.