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Hello there,
Did anybody find out how to access the internal GPS of the HTC P3300 without using the GPSID (GPS Intermediate Driver)?
Although the internal GPS works fine for me with many programs (TomTom, Pathaway, Fugawi, VisualGPSce, etc.) I did not find a way to program the internal GPS using any of the common GPS tools (such as SirfTech, Aplsirf, CeMonitor, GPSTweak, etc.). In particular I'm very interested in enabling/disabling the SN and the SBAS Mode.
I'm guessing that programming the internal GPS via the GPSID is not possible (or not supported) while it might be possible by accessing the hardware GPS directly. However, I don't know how to do so...
During my investigations I found out the following details:
Based on the MS GPSID Reference the HTC P3300 must have a plug'n'play based internal GPS receiver, as there's no valid registry key found in the corresponding HKLM/System/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Drivers section.
Looking into the HKLM/Drivers/Active section for a suitable pnp GPS driver I only found COM3 (SerialGPS.dll) which for me seems to be the corresponding hardware driver for the internal GPS. However, accessing COM3 always fails for me with any program.
Does anybody know how to get COM3 (SerialGPS) to work?
Or does anybody know how the GPSID talks to the internal GPS and why I can't do it directly (or how I can do it directly too)?
Any help and discussion is higly appreciated.
Thanks, GeenZ.
Have you tired to delete the gps driver in registry, and after a softreset tried to access direct on com 3 ?
pklein90 said:
Have you tired to delete the gps driver in registry, and after a softreset tried to access direct on com 3 ?
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I already have tried disabling the GPSID. This can be done either by the GPS control panel or directly in the registry by setting the key HLKM/System/CurrentControlSet/GPS Intermediate Driver/IsEnabled to "0".
The effect was that the virtual GPS COM port from the GPSID (COM4) was no longer available, but COM 3 still did not work.
Does deleting and softreseting make a difference to disabling?
How could I "completey delete" the GPSID in the registry?
Thanks, GeenZ
I'm interested in this too since I've found reading from COM4 using CF 2 is really buggy and hangs the device. I wanted to see if talking directly to the GPS instead of the intermediate driver would speed things up a bit.
Hi,
As I reported in this Thread I did not find any solution to get direct access to the GPS port.
GeenZ
indiekiduk said:
talking directly to the GPS instead of the intermediate driver would speed things up a bit.
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it would also probably solve the problem of M650 users stucked with a different firmware version of this internal GPS which doesn't work under wm6
If you would take a look at my following thread
it explains the problem.
Alot of people think they cant connect to the GPS device, but actually it is connection but just nog receiving data the right way.
Slovek said:
If you would take a look at my following thread
it explains the problem.
Alot of people think they cant connect to the GPS device, but actually it is connection but just nog receiving data the right way.
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Thanks Slovek
Should we Thank HTC for this great feature ?!
Already had contact with them, initially they put this up as a 'feature' but about a month ago i received a short list of questions regarding the GPS module. so i hope their going to change this.
Hope so
at least for the "perennity" of this device !
It's a dream: an SDIO GPS with integrated slot where you can put a(n up to) 2GB MicroSD memory card.
http://www.spectec.com.tw/sdg810.htm
It's a dream because I read that it has drivers for Windows Mobile 2003 but I didn't find drivers for Windows Mobile 2005 to make it work on my HTC Universal.
I invite you to write to them that WE WANT drivers for Windows Mobile 2005!
Here is their email address: [email protected].
It sure looks great but unfortunately the SD slot for our Universal is located at the bottom.
Also, this device requires the slot to be SDIO capable but I doubt our Universal's slot is. I hope I am wrong though
News: Spected released drivers for WM2005!
> It sure looks great but unfortunately the SD slot for our
> Universal is located at the bottom.
True...
> Also, this device requires the slot to be SDIO capable but I
> doubt our Universal's slot is. I hope I am wrong though
I hope it too
Here is pic of Spectec mini GPS in Jasjar
http://www.geardiary.com/?p=1894
I very interested in it too, but from picture it seems to still protrude pretty considerably. Fear I might snap it. Found some on ebay for around $150, so might get one and see how I fair.
sdg 810
it does not function on jarjar or qtek 9000
somebody has you it in driver for the jarjar
ummm?
didnt think it did either. mobileplanet even specifically states it does not work with HTC PDA's. but wondered/assumed from picture in the link it was operational and not just visual. well, so much for that. probably was a bad idea anyhow. probably should go with BT GPS, but I hate idea of having so many things to charge....BT mono headphones, BT stereo headphones, BT gps, BT keyboard, and the PPC....be nice to have "BT charging technology"....wouldnt that be something.
navicon?
dunno if you guys already read about (navicon), just found out about it on couple posts from early last year. i gonna look into this as gps solution. anyhow, just wanted to share.
Tested this product, but it doesn't work on every PDA with SDIO slot and WM5.0 I tried it with.
Installed the driver, but both the GPS and the card slot refuse to do anything.
The MicroSD (tried several) won't show in the file system, as it prompts for formatting after inserting in the iPAQ hx4700. When I press OK, nothing happens and the card won't show up in the Explorer as well.
The GPS shows up in the GPS list in TomTom Navigator 5 and 6, but when I select it, the program keeps looking for a fix, without success, even after 1 hour.
I tried lots and lots of SDIO devices, but none of them seem to work. It might be a faulty sample I received from Spectec, but until that isn't sure, I say: damn what a 'pain product'.
It may be al late respond, but it works on my hx4700 as a GPS, installed with WM 6.1, only the card reader doesn't. Fast fix and with clear sky 10 satelites. It even receives indoor if you are close enough through a window.
Tomtom 6 has difficulties, but miomap 3.2, IGO 2008 work just fine.
You have to install GPS tweak first, to find the com port. It's com 6, bautrate 38400.
Swaped the SDIO for the Bluetooth model
Spectec was surprizingly helpful when I contacted them about the lack of compatibility with models the GSP SDIO was supposed to be compatible with. They gave me the Bluetooth version which worked with my ipaq 1910 and am now testing with my HTC universal. Theorectically it would work with any BT PDA even without a SD slot.... that is if you could figure out someway to power the thing.
I don't even have a Universal and even I know that it is SDIO compliant... :S
And now???
So, I've got here my NEW Qtek 9000 ready to swich from WM5 to WM6.1 ROM.
Is there anybody can say Spectec SDG-10 is finally WORKING now? (seeing satellites and reading maps on the enbedded microSD)
Spectec-sdg 813
I have a SPECTEC SDG-813 which I have tried with my Wizard (Cingular 8125) and a laptop. I have found that it does not work well with either device. It aquires satellites runs for about 30 seconds then locks up. Which than requires a reboot and repairing with BT.
So it has been very frustrating and SPECTEC support has been very poor. Their inital response to my request for help advised me how to set the device up under BT. I had to resend the message and point out to them that the device is setup and aquiring satellites and then locking up.
I have been waiting to see if there will be any further advice.
In order to fix my buggered wifi problem I purchased a 'G' sdio wifi card from spectec. I thought I would post my experience.
The card does work! It has good speed (perhaps fitting the 'g' rating, but I am not sure) and EXCELLENT range (compared to my old Dell CF wifi card in my Axim X5 anyway).
The only problem with it is that if the unit powers off or if you remove the card, you must soft-reset to gain access to the wlan driver again. The card will power up and flash, but there will be no connection... in fact the WIFI utility will not even open until you soft reset. All I do is run WIFIfofum and keep the card alive all the time.
BTW, if you use POCKETLAN with this, you can map a folder on a file share and pretend it is your missing SD storage card. Works quite nicely.... My plan is to buy a BLUONYX (when the come out) and use it as a massive SD Card replacement.
Vomithaus said:
In order to fix my buggered wifi problem I purchased a 'G' sdio wifi card from spectec. I thought I would post my experience.
The card does work! It has good speed (perhaps fitting the 'g' rating, but I am not sure) and EXCELLENT range (compared to my old Dell CF wifi card in my Axim X5 anyway).
The only problem with it is that if the unit powers off or if you remove the card, you must soft-reset to gain access to the wlan driver again.
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wow you must really need wifi to make you buy a separate one...
but the problem with the wlan driver losing access when you power off the device or after turning it off is actually ROM dependent....
thanks for the info anyway regarding the card
Yeah. It seems to have something to do with keeping the driver alive and getting confused with the built in driver when it is time to revive it. Often WIFI comes back in the 'on board' form. I have been toying with the idea of just swapping the names of the drivers in the registry...
WIFIFOFUM2 does a pretty good job (if I remember to start it). The only drawback is battery power is lost.. (you cannot remove the card, even with it running).
I don't how anyone can live without WIFI on these things... there are just so many uses for it...
Skype... web surfing... syncronising podcasts directly...a whole host of lan services...vnc... windows terminal services...
I do a lot of support work now at home... I just carry my VNC or WTS connection around with me instead of being tied to a desktop/laptop... it's great!
i forgot to mention that it does not work in wm6. i tried. the driver locks up on install.
Really? I didn't realize that was an SDIO slot. Thanks for letting me know, the wifi on my uni is dead too, and i was thinking about buying a new phone. hehe
Is it Spectec SDW-821 SD WiFi Card 802.11b/g ?
I find black one (http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=132725) and blue one(http://www.buygpsnow.com/spectec-sd...821-sdio-wireless-lan-retail-package-613.aspx) in internet , does it make any difference?
I found blue one is always cheaper than black one while searching internet.
I'm palning to buy one since my O2 XDA EXEC WiFi has poor reception,. and I need to get better option.
It says Transfer data rates is up to 54Mbps at 802.11g, so I'm hoping I get faster speed, and range.
Any updates on this?
Vomithaus said:
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The card does work! It has good speed (perhaps fitting the 'g' rating, but I am not sure) and EXCELLENT range (compared to my old Dell CF wifi card in my Axim X5 anyway).
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I have an Qtek 2020 with PPC 2003 (ROM v1.75.103) on it and I just bought a Spectec SDW 821 b/g WiFi Card. It seems as if I can connect to my WLAN (it says 'connected' in the Settings menu) but when I for example start Pocket Internet Explorer I cannot surf the internet, because it says there is no connection??? When I then want to configure the connection I only cannot choose WLAN...
Any idea?
deschman said:
I have an Qtek 2020 with PPC 2003 (ROM v1.75.103) on it and I just bought a Spectec SDW 821 b/g WiFi Card. It seems as if I can connect to my WLAN (it says 'connected' in the Settings menu) but when I for example start Pocket Internet Explorer I cannot surf the internet, because it says there is no connection??? When I then want to configure the connection I only cannot choose WLAN...
Any idea?
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It's a ROM related problem. I'm currently running c_shekhar's 6.1.1b version with a Spectec 820 b WiFi card without problems. See the c_shekhar's Himalaya (Qtek 2020) ROM forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369701
The 'b' version is not available anymore and some people complain about the 'c' version with the Spectec card, but try it out first. Maybe c_shekhar can send you the 'b' version to you personally.
Thanks for your reply. I hoped it could get it working without the scary flashing thing (). I will think about it...
Qtek 2060 (HTC Himalaya) SPV M1000
Insert Coin said:
It's a ROM related problem. I'm currently running c_shekhar's 6.1.1b version with a Spectec 820 b WiFi card without problems. See the c_shekhar's Himalaya (Qtek 2020) ROM forum here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369701
The 'b' version is not available anymore and some people complain about the 'c' version with the Spectec card, but try it out first. Maybe c_shekhar can send you the 'b' version to you personally.
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Hello folks,
fist of all, , i appologies about my "rusty English language, quiet long time indeed, i dont practice... anyway !
Well , just buy some Spectec card b/g SDIO bluecard format, and some spectec GPS receiver to give some wifi and GPS connections to my old but nice Qtek2060 , my configuration is like deschman one: let see some details about it:
Qtek 2060 "Orange" SVP M1000
WM 2003: 3.66.2.238
rom ver: 1.66.02FRA
rom date: 02/23/04
radio ver: 1.10.00
protocol ver: 1337.18
extrom ver: 1.66.238
cpu: Intel(r) PXA263
speed: 400 mhz
ram: 128 mo
flash: 32 mo
flash chipset: 28F128K3
data bus: 32 bits
memory size: 14.57 mo
LCD: 240x320 TFT
colors: 65536
model n°: PH10A
ppc
IMEI: ***************
as you can see, i update the rom and the radio, and get better results
i was thinking: great ! gonna install the c_shekhar's Himalaya ROM, then get some cool new stuff
i tried to upgrade with the: WM6.1 AKU1.0(build 19199) RAMDisk-16MB Pagepool size-32MB for Hima(Updated 23.03.08), but with no succes. (in fact, the program does not install at all)
any suggetions, please ?
all answers, appreciated, thanks,by advance
hi,
I answered myself for the previous message, the problem is that, with an integrated USB bridge facade of my tour, deploiment of packadge did not take place as required,
morality: Always check your USB connection is directly connected to a USB port.
otherwise, everything works very well, no incompatibility, or problems, great!
Registry trick to fix WIFI
This is a trick to fix my O2EXEC. The internal WIFI died, so I bought a SPECTEC 11G SDIO wifi card. It works with WM6, however when you power off the machine the wifi stops working. You have to reset with the wifi card in to get it to work again. I suspected that it might be a problem with the old driver for the built in wifi....
I got a registry editor (REGEDITCE c1.2) and found all the references to TIACXWLN.DLL and changed it to point to WLAN11G.DLL
goto
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
then
COMM
then
TIACXWLN
edit
IMAGEPATH
to say WLAN11G.DLL
then do the same on
TIACXWLN1
I have not tested too much, but initially it seems to survive a power down and a card replacement.
I have been testing for a few days now and it is working great. a few seconds after inserting the car, it connects.... and even shows the icon (which was previously there only when the built in wifi was on)
Vomithaus said:
I have been testing for a few days now and it is working great. a few seconds after inserting the car, it connects.... and even shows the icon (which was previously there only when the built in wifi was on)
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Where can I buy products from this company ?
thank you
I have a need for a registry editor so I can block private calls. I cannot leave my mobile off for work purposes, but something keeps calling between 5 and 6am every morning! Must be a computer. I hope that makes you want to help me!
So, I need a reg editor that will work with this mobile (notices many via google but they say you need ARM processor etc, I thought this was an OMAP or am I wrong?)
Second issue, when I start the mobile up if I need to reset or battery died etc, it starts tomtom every time and pocket informant appears on the screen as well, if my battery died while I was on a call, this can add about 2 minutes to the startup time, which is annoying for the person on the other end and me! Do I just delete the start.exe from my memory card for the tomtom issue?
Thanks,
There are several approaches to solve your problem. One would be to use "call firewall" or "turbo mobile event" (more difficult to use) or any other call firewall programm. Or you could use "wireless time" and have it turn your phone off between 5 and 6am. If you don't need it at that time it won't ring.
I didn't understand the second part very well. In \Windows\Startup there are the programs listed that start every time you do a soft reset. I don't know why PI or TomTom should be in those folders. I use PI and had TT installed, only TT has an autorun function I think and that is a file on the SD card in a folder with 5 numbers e.g. 2577 or anything like this. Erasing it could solve the problem, but this should only be the case if you do a hard reset. Normally it doesn't show up after a soft reset. Better check the manual before erasing the file, usually it's only for autorun function, but I can't remember if it's essiantial for the program.
If you really need a registry editor use phm regedit or get fdc soft's taskmgr, it has also a registry editor (multitool!).
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... they say you need ARM processor etc, I thought this was an OMAP or am I wrong?
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just for info... Artemis = OMAP850 = Arm compatible processor.
Specifically the OMAP850 contains two cores, an ARM926 application processor from ARM's family of ARM9E cores and a TI EDGE digital baseband chipset, the TCS3500 (an ARM7MCU coupled with Texas Instruments C54 DSP). Basically the workload of the Wizard (or any mobile device that uses the 850) is thus divided into the two cores (with some shared)
The ARM926 core controls the WiFi module, Infrared, LCD, buzzer, SD/MMC flash card and SDIO modules, LCD backlight, U connection, battery, camera, LEDs and GPS.
As Windows Mobile 5.0 is a multi-task processor, processors has to divide up between the phone part of the OS and the PDA part. Receiving a call could slow the device down considerably, but the 3500 DSP is specifically there to deal with GSM calls.
It also controls EDGE data communications. The DSP also handles the AC97 audio controller, SIM card, touch screen controller and part of the Bluetooth (voice), as well as the speakers.
Both of the cores share the load on memory controller, 2D graphic accelerator, keyboard and data Bluetooth.
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Hi,
Concerning the TomTom issue, I had the same problem at the beginning as I use to switch off my SPV at night. It was just a matter of renaming / moving the folder named 2577. I keep it in my Storage card in case I need to reinstall again for whatever reason.
danjwalker said:
So, I need a reg editor that will work with this mobile (notices many via google but they say you need ARM processor etc, I thought this was an OMAP or am I wrong?)
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ARM is the proc's architecture (what x86 is for PCs), Texas Instruments is the manufacturer and OMAP is the proc's type (what Pentium is for PCs). So anything for ARM pocessors should be ok. Hope that clears it.
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Second issue, when I start the mobile up if I need to reset or battery died etc, it starts tomtom every time (...)
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One way to start an app. at startup is through /Windows/Startup
Another way is to put it in the registry, HKLM/Init. Then it would be started at boot time by the kernel. Probably not a good idea, unless you really need it and you know what you are doing.
The third way I know of, is to start it as a service.
That being said, DotFred's Task Manager is what you are looking for. It has a registry editor and a services manager, so that you can stop and/or deactivate a service. Total Commander has a registry editor too, in //Plugins
little_buda said:
Hi,
Concerning the TomTom issue, I had the same problem at the beginning as I use to switch off my SPV at night. It was just a matter of renaming / moving the folder named 2577. I keep it in my Storage card in case I need to reinstall again for whatever reason.
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thanks for that i just removed the two autorun files in that folder and that did the same thanks for info
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Ok forgive me because I am totally new to this whole thing. I have a G3 T-mobile MDA. I really want to use it as a simple GPS. Is there any way to unlock the internal GPS chip and let GPS software out there use that to get the readings? or do you HAVE to buy a Bluetooth GPS. also another thought can you plug in like one of these Chepo Delorme or Microsoft USB GPS devices to the USB port? doubt it but just thought I would ask.
GPS Chip on a Wizard? I don't know about you, but i never heard of Wizard having one.
So you'd need a bluettoth GPS instead. As for USB ones, you won't be able to connect them to the wizard, since its USB port lacks host functionality - you can connect the wizard to a host device, but you can't connect any slave device (like GPS, pendrive, printer, etc) to the wizard.
Hmm I don't know
I thought that the phone had a basic GPS chip in it. you know like that they can track you with like on TV or really I thought that it was the same technology Sprint and Verizon customers can use for directions etc but T-mobile didn't want you to use?
What you talk about is not GPS. Verizon and Sprint probably calculate your phone using data about strength of signal your phone receives from nearby GSM transmitters and positions of these transmitters.
You can get such positioning data in google maps (windows mobile version, not java midlet). But keep in ming that positioning error when using this method can be as large as 1-2km (especially in suburban/country terrain). The more cell transmitters are in your area, the more accurate the tracking.
There probably is some other software that can do this, but nothing crosses my mind right now.
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Here's some info on the subject:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_localization
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