Hi have tryed a few differnt roms the last weeks. But it seems that most of them have some sort of memory leaks. The one om using now is shaps 4.01 and it has the same issues.
Can anybody sugest a rom that does not leak?
Just to clear things up.
When i first boot my device it has lets say 25mb free memory. But after some time it is doen to 20 at the most. I even use oxios closeapps but it does not seem to help. After e reboot it is ok agin. But it does not last long.
Are the original roms any better?
Is there a rom that does not have this issu?
Please somebody give me some advice.
Witch rom would you recomend? For memory and stability (least reboots)
I recommend Edhaas' superD-lite. It is snappy, has tons of space, and very, very stable. As far as memory leaks, I haven't really had any issue with memory, so I never really checked. As of now after a few days of use without a soft-reset I have about 23mb free with no progs running except being connected to the pc via activesync. I use wktask to close programs.
Austinsnyc's 3.62 clean also has very very little/no leakage. Im still waiting for his 3.62.03 version.
flippy said:
Please somebody give me some advice.
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OK, here's some: Stop being so neurotic about your free memory value and only worry about it if your device becomes unstable to the point of requiring a reset. I've seen WM eventually reclaim what appears to be "lost" memory many times....
vp3G said:
OK, here's some: Stop being so neurotic about your free memory value and only worry about it if your device becomes unstable to the point of requiring a reset. I've seen WM eventually reclaim what appears to be "lost" memory many times....
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LOL i get your point and will take it
No more memory gages for me
Short-term remedy
Check out my posts here (Memory freeing cab located here) and here (Brief description here).
Hope this helps!
Quakie
I already tryed that. But im now gonna stop worrying about memory.
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Hi all
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EDIT: 2/11/2007
I appear to have found a solution to the 'long time to come back out of standby' issue:
i had a bit of a brianwave when I was learning about pagepools and decided to investigate WHY it was only Schaps' rom that took such a noticeable time to come out of standby whereas other roms such as VP3G's and shamanix's were pretty quick.
Initially i put it down to rubbish handset.lol. but then decided no. that isnt the xda way!
so, i downloaded 4 different ROMs, VP3G's, Shamanix, AustinSync and of course Schaps'. I was determined to get Schaps' working as his rom is most suited to my needs!
so, upon opening each of the roms using the pagepool change tool, i realised Schap's had a 4mb PP whereas others had 6mb
so, i thought, lets see what happens if we change the pagepool, so i did. and it seems to have worked. it still takes a short time to come out (i mean not instantaneous like on the wizard) but a LOT less than the Schaps with 4mb PP.
so, i ask ye fellow users to try changing the pagepool.
the tool i found was on these very forums at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269&highlight=pagepool+change
and there it is!
so please, try it!
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I've been trying out schaps' various roms and i've realised it seems to take a while for the handset to come out of standby (i use the standby function a LOT) and sometimes you even have to press the power button twice!
is it just me that is experiencing this?
please dont get me wrong, ALL of schaps' roms that i have tried have been near enough perfect asides from this single issue. all the other roms i have tried despite coming out of standy instantaneously, they have other issues. issues which schaps dont have!
i just hope we can solve this slight issue!
w/thanks
duke.
Same here
I have ROM 3.54c from Schaps and I have the same problem... I find it VERY frustrating!!!
I was hoping that this would be fixed in version 4...
Good thread Duke_stix, I hope someone out there has the answer to our problem!
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3.54c from Schaps
I haven't really noticed it yet really but its something that I have experienced on all the roms I try on occasion.
i use 3.60a
and it has a 1second lag before it comes out of standby. havent tried any other rom
Try VP3G's latest.... you would not be disappointed...Schap codes great ROMs, however when they are done and out of bugs.. but till then if you use your phone daily like most people do, then testing is not for you.
im not testing!
if you read my first post, i LOVE schaps' roms! the ONLY issue that i have found is the 'wakeup' bug, otherwise more or less perfect. with other roms, including VP3G's there are other slight problems like some today plugins missing, namely the wireless one, which i know there are alternatives and it can be downloaded and installed but id prefer it in rom from beginning!
there has GOT to be a way to fix this! perhaps a registry setting
schaps, if your reading this, please help!
U may have better luck posting this on the original schaps v4.0 thread!
Not a rom specific thing...
It's a Hermes specific thing.
The Hermes has always had problems coming out of stand by. Every rom I've used has had these lags. And yeah, some times I have to press the power button twice as well.
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U may have better luck posting this on the original schaps v4.0 thread!
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i would and i have but in the last few hours ive had more responses concerning this issue than i have since posting in that thread a day or two ago!
Help wanted
This is a very important topic...
Because of this issue, my 8525 seems slower than the old 8125... Kind of annoying for a processor twice as fast...
Please... Anyone... Any clue????
This lag varies depending on what you have installed and whats running. When i boot my device in safe mode using spb pocket + the lag is basicly gone. So just free up some ram and put only the apps that need to be on device memory on the device memory, other non crucial apps should be put on starage device.
Not a memory issue
fone_fanatic said:
This lag varies depending on what you have installed and whats running. When i boot my device in safe mode using spb pocket + the lag is basicly gone. So just free up some ram and put only the apps that need to be on device memory on the device memory, other non crucial apps should be put on starage device.
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I highly doubt that it is a memory issue since this happens on cold boots as well.
Moreover my Hermes currently has 22.8Mb free for storage and 19.7Mb for Program... Isn't this plenty?
ATI ImageON
Actually, isn't it what the ATI ImageON driver is supposed to fix?
Relating to all of this,, I wonder if the new Tytn 11 (Kaiser)with all its memory , experiences that same power/standby problem ? If the answer is yes, then either the problem (whatever it was) was solved, and we must learn what they have done differently in hardware or system. If they haven't fixed or improved immensely in the Kaiser, then someone out there (HTC) never have seen it as a major problem.. I personally have almost always had a lag, either on cooked or official.
on Hermes but not on Wizard
Actually, this problem is inherent to the Hermes - The wizard (slower processor and older model) is much faster to come out of stand-by. Someone at HTC must have messed up pretty bad - or ATI bribbed them nicely.
Hi,
I'm using the 3.60 full at the moment and didn't experience that, even I do use that version for a week and never recall have that issue as well, may be is physical unit related since some of you also discover the same symptoms.
Just sharing hope you don't mine.
Cheers,
Naru
TOPSIDE!solution has been found
its true
GldRush98 said:
Not a rom specific thing...
It's a Hermes specific thing.
The Hermes has always had problems coming out of stand by. Every rom I've used has had these lags. And yeah, some times I have to press the power button twice as well.
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Yes thats is true its not a rom specific thing. I use the dopod original rom and still it takes that long and some times i do need to press it twice before getting it awake...
Minimo guilty?
I tried the 6Mb pagepool trick on Schap's 4 ROM and the delay seemed to have shortened. However, after installing and uninstalling Minimo, I noticed a significant slow down of mt TyTn... It seems that the delay is back...
Am I the only one in this case?
My Jasjam seems to be running slower. Could it be that it's being caused by a low level of Storage memory? I'm currently at:
Total - 49.33
In Use - 41.08
Free - 8.25
If this is a problem, what causes it? And can u suggest a way to fix it?
Thanks.
How many programs have you got running? Have you got the "x-key" program that doesn't just minimize but closes programs. Check out memory in settings and see just what is running. The more programs open the more ram being used and the more sluggish the phone. Its recommended to soft reset the phone once a day to refresh your ram too. Hope this helps, Cheers.
By the way, I've got a telstra jasjam too, I found the telstra rom a real Mongrel. It was loaded with stuff I didn't need and was painful. I've upgraded through various roms and am now using Faria-R32 Dr Puttingham WM6.1 HERMES ROM-CUSTOM+CLEAN. I like this as well as the shadow roms. Depends what you like but I wouldnt stay with the stock rom.
Ultra,
Thanks for the reply. I do have the "x-key". When I "stop all" in Settings / Memory, I still only have about 8Mb Storage Memory Free. Does this really matter?
I undrstand your comments about the Telstra ROM being full of garbage, but I've been reluctant to change form the standard Telstra ROM, as I had BIG problems with bluetooth under the old WM5 ROM, but under this one, it's all OK -- and I really need bluetooth to work properly. Is there a simple way of cleaning up the Telstra ROM? And would it help?
Cheers.
i think ultramag69 got a little confused........that's 8 megs storage memory, not program memory. That is reduced cause of the programs that you have installed.
anyone would tell you that almost any cooked rom here i better than a shipped rom. i dont really know what's in a telstra rom and without a hardreset or a reflash.......the only thing i can suggest is to uninstall bundled applications that you dont use. other than that all i can suggest is some registry tweaks, like using schap's advanced configuration tool
Not confused at all. I tend t find that some programs sit in the background consuming valuable memory while in essence doing nothing for you. As for cutting down the Telstra rom, Its not really going to happen. most of the Apps are cooked into the os with some in the extended rom. You might be able to get rid of Pool and Blackjack(?) but most don't appear in your Remove programs list. If bluetooth is all you're worried about though there are some fantastic roms out there that aren't bloated with Misc crap that work fine with the Bluetooth. I've personally never had that problem and I use the Bluetooth extensively. For speed look at the Naked lite roms but I can assure you that some of the other cooked roms while still having a large amount of stuff cooked in are STILL faster than the stock rom. You will have to see what you want for a good rom but if you decide to flash os I would suggest TNT SE. WM6 as this is a VERY stable rom(was for me) and I had no problems with it. Also had excellant bluetooth. Would also suggest HTC Bluetooth Quicklink as an app you might like. Sits on the today screen and connects to everything quickly. Good for Stereo headphones that wont stay connected for music. Hope this helps you out. Cheers
Hey all -
Great forum, and happy to be a member, here's my story, perhaps you can help.
I have just received a TYTN few weeks ago, and I am trying to make the best of it.
So far - I am frustrated, very frustrated!
Why? since I was a Palm OS user, which was so simple and fast, its nothing to compared to windows mobile.
I have tried over the past month several ROMs, per this forum's advice -
1) Black Satin Medium and Light
2) Schap's
3) Faria
4) Shadow 2.1
5) K's
and maybe a few more...the problem is that for each and every one of them I tackled, slowness and major memory problems - ones which forced mt to a soft reset to continue my work.
So what I am looking for - a ROM that will fit my machine's HW, not something too special or packed with apps, something simple that will have the basics, but will be fast and full of memory for programs, over 40 MB after cold boot.
any idea - which one for me?
BTW - up until now, Black Satin Medium was the best option.
I've got a couple of options for you.
#1, SuperDLite by Edhaas is very stable, good with program memory and has lots of storage memory. Has most of the things most people need, and very little fat.
#2, A newer ROM that I have been trying out lately is Shamanix's Ultimate V2 Final. It has a newer base than SuperDLite, and seems to be a very well-polished ROM. However, I have only tried it for about a week and can't speak of how it may fare in the long run.
Give those two a shot. I've a feeling one of them will be to you liking.
Thanks
I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
i use Pandora Naked 9b1 w/Big Storage - WM6.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=365604
Memory Details:
Storage: 79 w/MMS, 82 w/o MMS
Program: 30
its fast and clean but u have to install progs when u need more dont forget to install .NET CF 3.5 if u wanna add extra progs
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I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
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Think of big storage as having an 25 gallon gas tank on your car. Sure, you only drive your car to work and back everyday, so you don't need a very big tank. But who knows? You might want to travel cross country someday.
Anyway, just like there aren't many cars without big gas tanks these days, there aren't many ROMs without big (or super) storage these days.
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I am wonderig - why do I nned big storage? if it was up to me I keep most of myh RAM for programs, I am installing all my apps on the storage card anyway...
so isn't what I need is something like 50 MB after cold boot?
haven't seen any ROM that provides this...
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With a Lite ROM you may just get a little over 30MB RAM after a cold boot. You will never see anything like 40MB and 50MB is purely in your fantasy.
Thanks
Hi All,
Thank you for the responsiveness, I will give those 3 ROMs a shot.
I simply cannot face the fact that from time to time I run iGo and get a message: "iGo needs at least 6MB to run"...
then I look at the memory usage and see that I have about 4 MB left - I am wondering how come? nothing is running, but there's is probably a Mem leak somewhere which I cannot for see.
I tried also to use Close Apps and Hibernate to free RAM, and I will use MemTools as well.
For now, it seems to be a "complicated and slow" OS for this machine, perhaps WM 5 (what originally came with it) is more appropriate for HTC TYTN (Hermes 200) hardware.
Wanna bet $$??????
ofird said:
Hi All,
Thank you for the responsiveness, I will give those 3 ROMs a shot.
I simply cannot face the fact that from time to time I run iGo and get a message: "iGo needs at least 6MB to run"...
then I look at the memory usage and see that I have about 4 MB left - I am wondering how come? nothing is running, but there's is probably a Mem leak somewhere which I cannot for see.
I tried also to use Close Apps and Hibernate to free RAM, and I will use MemTools as well.
For now, it seems to be a "complicated and slow" OS for this machine, perhaps WM 5 (what originally came with it) is more appropriate for HTC TYTN (Hermes 200) hardware.
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Oh yeah baby, I'd bet that's a mem leak. Hibernate will help, but you had best hunt that sucker down. Check your Today plugins first.
And I think what ultramag was trying to say is that WM6 runs very smoothly on Hermes hardware. I have flashed many WM6 ROMs and there have been some real stinkers - but none were slower than the stock WM5 that was on my device.
Of course, you aren't the first person I have heard of complain that WM6 is slower than his WM5 stock ROM. You are the second. If a fresh install of your WM5 is running smoother and faster than the ROMs I recommended above then I want to know where I can get that ROM.
I think you'll find IGO is the problem. I had it on wm5 and wm6. Its a memory hog. keep clearing all the destination and trip lists and you shouldn't have a problem. This is why I moved to Tomtom 6. Its so much more stable and I've NEVER had a memory problem again. Hope this helps....
Looking at SuperDLite I see a few versions, which one would you reocmmned for speed:
DopodLite1.0HermesWM6.zip
DopodLiteV1.1-6mbPP-WM6.zip
DopodLiteV1.1WM6.zip
DPLHermesWM6V1.2a4mbPP.zip
DPLHermesWm6V1.2a6mbPP.zip
SuperD-LiteWM6Hermes4mbPP.rar
SuperD-LiteWM6Hermes6mbPP.rar
?
Re: speed
They're all quick. Theoretically the 1.2 and Super-D versions may be slightly faster because the windows directories have been minimized. Some people feel the 4mb page pool roms are slightly quicker than 6mb, but I prefer the 6mb (just "feels" better to me). Check the thread for more details.
Have fun!
I used the 1.2 version, its pretty quick, I am missing the "profiles" of V6.1 and the "today" screen features - is there a plgin to add them in?
In addiotn, touchFlo SL does not work on this ROM - any idea why?
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Not sure what the profiles thing is, or what today screen features you're talking about exactly...
If you post a link to Touchflo SL I'll check it out.
I was going to suggest you post these questions on the Super-D thread, but then I see you're the OP and it's your thread to do what you want with!
Best wishes,
Thanks Ed, I will follow you request, so far the ROM is fast and snappy. I have a feeling that WM 6 are doing better on my TYTN then WM 6.1.
Just to clarify - By "profiles" I mean the feature in the today screen which give you the option to "vibrate" the phone ringer by schedule, i.e - if I have a meeting then the phone will automatically switch to vibrate.
Touch FLO (not SL) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338143
have tried a few and flashed that many times im forgetting which has the most
i run tomtom etc on my hermes and would like a nice mobile shell gui but some of the roms have little ram
i know the hermes is limiyed so was trying to work out which rom would be the best starting point, storage aint a prob as i have an 8gb card and run stuff from there which i know takes up ram use but would like more advice
cheers
doddy
kdodd said:
have tried a few and flashed that many times im forgetting which has the most
i run tomtom etc on my hermes and would like a nice mobile shell gui but some of the roms have little ram
i know the hermes is limiyed so was trying to work out which rom would be the best starting point, storage aint a prob as i have an 8gb card and run stuff from there which i know takes up ram use but would like more advice
cheers
doddy
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Here we go again .. until you try each one you won't know! Try the DVH big storage and almost naked, you really need to flash each and every one to try!!
As Zocster said... plus he has pointed you in a good direction. Abusalza's ROM used to have the most RAM but I am also trying out a few naked ROMS.
Wam7 said:
As Zocster said... plus he has pointed you in a good direction. Abusalza's ROM used to have the most RAM but I am also trying out a few naked ROMS.
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True, go for naked roms as they usually have more ram!! everyone (Chefs) are currently trying new opal and manilla apps in their roms so you'll probably get less ram on those roms.
It's not 6.1, and it's not the fastest, but in my ROM flashing, I've found that this has the most:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359917
large ROM
Joshkoss naked I use is just 35mb and gives me 89.x mb ram free afer install. I installed lot of software on this and now it has 40 mb free. I loaded two full office suites. etc chekc it out very fast too
Hi,
rocksolid said:
Joshkoss naked I use is just 35mb and gives me 89.x mb ram free afer install. I installed lot of software on this and now it has 40 mb free. I loaded two full office suites. etc chekc it out very fast too
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kdodd was asking for RAM (program). This is physically limited to 64MB on hermes. You're talking of flash memory used for storage (all in all 128MB on hermes in various partitions).
On my hermes with "CRC V13 normal" there's available RAM of ~48MB (depends on page pool etc.), after some applications are running (e.g. HTC home, all other OS applications) there's ~ 24MB free RAM.
Hope this helps.
scholbert
CRC v13 is best for me.
RAM and ROM
Yes I was wrong. thanks Scolbert for correcting me.
my Storage = 89.00 mb to start and not the RAM
I've got an Tilt 2 (ATT) using the stock rom from e2 rom. Seems like the device starts to slow down over time especially with a bunch of apps installed. I install apps to my storage card. I have used memory reclaimers, but they never seems to reclaim all the ram that is being used. I can see this because I know how much is in use after boot up.
In particular, tabs in TF3D can be slow to appear when they are stopped in, apps slow to launch. I have the app stay open in the background, maybe that is also part of my problem, but I do manually close apps at times too to keep the running ones down to 4 or less.
Anyway..does anyone else notice this? I try not to reboot my phone much. I guess I would like to not have to reboot the phone every few days but if that is what other people do, then so be it.
Thanks for any advice people might have...
Several items:
-stock ROMs especially from carriers are often bloated and don't perform as well as cooked ROMs.
-regular soft resets are unfortunately crucial to keeping your device performing at a high level throughout the day. I have a program that schedules my device to soft reset every morning. But I'd say once every 2 or 3 days is fine.
I'm using the stock rom minus the bloat provided by eraser...
Thanks for the help..I'll just reboot the device every few days.
Linear2202 said:
I'm using the stock rom minus the bloat provided by eraser...
Thanks for the help..I'll just reboot the device every few days.
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There's several memory management tweaks and apps that have shown to help a lot with freeing up those resources in the TP2. Have you already tried the two .cabs (nopushinternet and resproxy delete) that have been circulating here? Those, along with a registry edit have made a big difference in the RAM consumption on the TP2 for a number of people on the 6.5 rom. There's also some settings via Advanced Configuration that seem to help.
I actually purchased Memmaid because the TP2 tools wouldn't work on my device for some reason. Memmaid helps, but it doesn't quite do it.
The rom I'm using has push internet disabled, but I am aware of the cab for it too, thank you.
I have not tried the proxy delete cab, I will look into that.
The memmaid app has some performance registry tweaks. There are some for internet explorer, but I use opera, so I'm going to put those back to normal.
I tend to let apps be open too and perhaps that is also part of the problem. I go in an close them when several are open, but maybe I should just have the X button close the app instead.
Thanks again for everyone's input. Much appreciated.
make sure you use the opera9 edits or cabs to disable auto startup of Opera. I know normally have 48% ram to use with stock rom and before it would be in the high 30's after a while without anything open. I agree the mem progams dont restore it to fresh boot state but they do help.
I also haven't disabled Opera at startup, i will look into that as well to give me a bit more ram. Thanks again.