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As post title, has anyone on here actually used b&b 4.3 AND Touch 3.01?
Everyone that posts seems to have a preference between the two, but most people are judging the newer version of one against an older version of the other.
I would like someone who has used both to give their opinions on each and which one is better?
I am currently using b&b 4.3 and its wicked, but it seems to have slowed down a lot after some customisation so I am thinking of swapping to Touch 3.01 if its faster with similar features.
Cheers
I've tried them all
Meschle's tend to be faster than Tom's... and I'm not a huge fan of all black schemes...
I was using BB for a while, but found it slow, and switched to Premium Plus, which was ok, but also slowed down after a while.
I've now reverted to Vanilla 2.01 (a couple of days ago) and put on the Apps I need seperately, and speed, performance and battery life are much much better and instantly noticeable improvement, despite having to load on all the extras like Hbutton etc, and I don't overclock at all.
I tried both.
I agree with you guys that BB slows down after customization and installation of my favorite apps.
From the day Artemis Touch 3.01 (full no cube) released I use it till now. Very fast even with many apps installed. Plus memory leak is less than BB.
I 'm very happy with it. I will change it only if a newer release comes out.
Meschle did a great job (not that Tom did not ).
To me, the appearance of the rom is extremely important, and Tom's is much more graphically engaging than Meschle's.
Regarding speed, it hasn't really slowed down for me.
I only used Meschle's rom for a couple of days and probably would have stayed with it if the graphics (e.g. HTC Home buttons) were as good as Tom's.
Props to both chefs.
For me:
I've tried the touch 3.01 for about two days. It slowed down my htc and a I lost
plenty of storage..
So I changed to B&B. Now I'm very happy with this rom. It suits my requirements best.
I have a lot of storage left. And nearly no storage goes lost.
I'm realy satisfied with this rom - so I'm looking forward to the new release 5.0
Thx a lot Tom!
bye
peter
I installed Mesche Meschle Touch 3.01 Full with cube on the day it was released(11/11/07). Very happy with it, no hard reset until now. Soft reset usually about once a week. I would not change, only to update.
majo_scigo said:
I installed Mesche Meschle Touch 3.01 Full with cube on the day it was released(11/11/07). Very happy with it, no hard reset until now. Soft reset usually about once a week. I would not change, only to update.
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How you u can do a hard reset on Touch 3.01? I dont find them...
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How you u can do a hard reset on Touch 3.01? I dont find them...
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A hard reset is as the name suggests, it's a function of the hardware, it's not software dependent, with the two softkeys held down, press the reset button, you'll then be presented with a confirmation.
Yes i do this, but then write, that you must press send button to hard reset it, but ayn button i press it, is my orbit not hardreseted??? Which button is mean for send button?
I switched from B&B 4.3 to Touch 3.1 Lite without cube and I find the Touch rom is faster and more stable. The memory leak seems to be less of a problem than with B&B but they are both fine roms.
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Which button is mean for send button?
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'Send Button' = the green phone button (for answer / initiate calls)
I've tried the Touch 3 and BB 4.3. Toms ROM looked great and was pretty fast but I didn't load up all my applications on it. I didn't really like the P-Bar prog as much as the simple X-Button. Also, his ROM was kinda light. A lot of people like that but I like not having to add a bunch of programs to get it the way I want it.
The Touch ROM was my favorite. W/cube there was a little mem drain but not much at all. It had most of the applications I was used to and was pretty fast. I would have kept the ROM but I was experiencing some problems with it that no one else seemed to have. So I switched to the Premium Plus ROM and it seems to be the perfect ROM for me. Pretty stable and functional if you soft reset once a week.
I don't care as much about the look as I do about functionality and stabilty. To me, Tom's ROM just didn't do that much. The way I figure, the more applications you have cooked into the ROM already, the less stuff you have to add, hence, slowing down the device and or unknown software conflicts. So I say pick the ROM that requires the least customization.
I have a Diamond that my wife has just started using and she really cant get her head round TF3D as she is used to push picture favorite contacts and she cant seem to get used to the sliding around. She really doesnt need it to be fully featured as she wont surf, use facebook etc. Its just for sms, contacts and a good interface. I looked at Titanium but I dont like the UI.
SPB Mobile shell seems to be the easiest and fastest solution.
I have tried a couple of full featured 6.5 ROMS here and with SPB mobile shell installed and you generally get so little RAM left over it hangs and then she is coming back to me saying the phone is a load of rubbish.
I know there is a good usuable phone in there (its in mint condition) but need to know what ROM is recommended to do this with, ie. that TF3D is not on there, mobile shell runs, and I am not likely to hang it.
As all the threads here seem to be WM6.5 lately, does anyone think one of these will be ok, or shall I look for a 6.1. I am an avid reader of the forum and I know people hate being asked what ROM but if there is someone out there with a little experience I will really appreciate it. Even an old reliable ROM would be OK, as the SPB MS3 will be doing the work.
I have already spent the last week trying a few ROMS and they stat off OK then the hanging starts and its back to the beginning.
Try the ROM from the 1st post from here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549460
I made it for this purpose only!
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Try the ROM from the 1st post from here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549460
I made it for this purpose only!
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Hi. I tried your ROM from post #4 and although the RAM figures were good, I got all the SPB MS3 loaded and configured nicely, on three occasions yesterday it hung, and when I soft rest using the red button, it started again as if from a Hard Reset and I would lose everything and have to then spend another hour reinstalling again. I respect everything you do in your work but I really wonder if this phone is capable of running WM6.5.
These are what I installed:
SPB MS3
Sense Revolution 2 Theme (with mortscript and message2reg)
thumbcal
g alarm
phone canvas
This brought the RAM usage up to around 75%.
It took an age to boot up everytime and would hang very often.
I tried using it myself in TF3D and not installing anything, and found that I couldnt call anyone from the contacts menu. The only way it works is using the phone dialer.
I am currently running Benko Clean v2.0, it is super quick and is a basic 6.5 ROM, which comes with Titanium (turn it off) and loads of RAM left over for another UI
wilfmoralee said:
I am currently running Benko Clean v2.0, it is super quick and is a basic 6.5 ROM, which comes with Titanium (turn it off) and loads of RAM left over for another UI
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Its WM 6.5, though
Will this work and chew up what is a small battery even quicker?
I'm using the Aztor V2 ROM with SPB MS3. I have PUSH email on so activesync is running all the time.
I did a soft reset last around 23:00 last night, received about 8 emails and used TomTom for 30 minutes and I've got 58% program memory used. I don't get significant lag on anything. It doesn't crash (often)
Aztor V3 has just been released, I've not had chance to look at it yet though.
Check out the thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=422417
Generally a good ROM IMHO.
I am using Cloudy 1.3. It's very fast and light.
I suggest changing it's pagepool to 10 MB with Pagepool Changer, because it makes it a bit faster
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I'm using the Aztor V2 ROM with SPB MS3. I have PUSH email on so activesync is running all the time.
Is this a clean /lite ROM?
Has anyone used BsB's 6.5.1A? It seems to be without TF3D.
Does anyone think that it would be better to just go to something like Dutty's V3.6b LITE, I mean I know its WM 6.1 but don't his ROMs have a reputation for stability?
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fredfox_uk said:
I'm using the Aztor V2 ROM with SPB MS3. I have PUSH email on so activesync is running all the time.
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Is this a clean /lite ROM?
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clean, yes, lite no.
AZTOR stand for - Alpha Zero Tweaked Official Roms - IOW Alpha Zero takes the officially released ROM (6.1) and removes the bloated rubbish and adds several tweaks to make the ROM run smoother and quicker using less memory.
Nice
The easiest way is to try some of these ROM's, I know it can take a while to reconfigure everything but it's the best way to find out which is best for your personal needs - we're all different, that's why there's (thankfully) so many cooks
The main thing is disabling TF3D/TF3D2/titanium in the settings ->today section before installing SPB3. And also, phone canvases can use up to 10mb of additional RAM. So if you're into having a ram efficient phone, don't use phone canvas, use the standard WM dialer...
As for 6.5 i was pleased with BSB... now i am using Gen.Y, with TF3D2.1 and Tachi VGA dialer (they come with the rom), plus i'm using S2U2 and i get around 30-35mb of ram free (that's 34% of ram free the most).
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As for 6.5 i was pleased with BSB... now i am using Gen.Y, with TF3D2.1 and Tachi VGA dialer (they come with the rom), plus i'm using S2U2 and i get around 30-35mb of ram free (that's 34% of ram free the most).
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I think I will give BSB a try and if it is the same I will probably go back to Duttys WM 6.1
Download the 6.5R edition. That's the non 6.5.1 version. The latest version is a bit...unstable. I have just flashed it and i already think i don't like it. Download pre-last version - my opinion.
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Hi. I tried your ROM from post #4 and although the RAM figures were good, I got all the SPB MS3 loaded and configured nicely, on three occasions yesterday it hung, and when I soft rest using the red button, it started again as if from a Hard Reset and I would lose everything and have to then spend another hour reinstalling again. I respect everything you do in your work but I really wonder if this phone is capable of running WM6.5.
These are what I installed:
SPB MS3
Sense Revolution 2 Theme (with mortscript and message2reg)
thumbcal
g alarm
phone canvas
This brought the RAM usage up to around 75%.
It took an age to boot up everytime and would hang very often.
I tried using it myself in TF3D and not installing anything, and found that I couldnt call anyone from the contacts menu. The only way it works is using the phone dialer.
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Hey bro i clearly said that try the rom from "POST NUMBER 1"
I am using Shaks.P v4.30 rom with SPB shell and there are no hangings at all, it is fast and very stable with 58.88MB free RAM after restart with running SPB shell, Gyrator and I am using PhonEx dialer.
I've tried a lot of roms and always came back to this one witch is reliable.
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Hey bro i clearly said that try the rom from "POST NUMBER 1"
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But if Free Ram is important isn't the Version2.0 ROM's in Post # 2 better? Or does post boot up the Ram usage go up? Maybe I am missing something
[Version 3.2]
After installing the ROM :
Free main memory : 140.37 MB
Free RAM (At boot up) :45%
Version 3.2 [28 August 2009] [Re-Edited]
After installing the ROM :
Free main memory : 128.00 MB
Free RAM (At boot up) :58%
Version 2.0 [22 August 2009]
After installing the ROM :
Free main memory : 127.00 MB
Free RAM (At boot up) :59%
If I was giving my phone to someone else I'd put the stock ROM back on it... everything's guaranteed to work as HTC intended that way, and it's how I'd want a phone given to me by someone else.
Another Vote for BsB 6.5R. I'm Currently using it with SPB Mobile Shell 3.
About 47MB Free RAM After everything is up and Super speed!
qmt49 said:
If I was giving my phone to someone else I'd put the stock ROM back on it... everything's guaranteed to work as HTC intended that way, and it's how I'd want a phone given to me by someone else.
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I agree with you, and I tried that too, but it is the wifes first excursion into HTC land and she just found all the sliding around a bit cumbersome on the Diamond Screen. Hence a simple ROM, no bells and whistles, with a simple SPB MS3 interface, that is push button and there.
Unfortunately, the only customization you can do with TF3D is rearrange the tabs, delete some of them and slide the people tab up and down for favourites. If there was a way to have the favourite contacts page (with push button pictures) instead of the scrolling. The 'Programs' tab make it better but that is it.
I am an HD user and with WM6.5 and I love TF3D with latest Manilla, and I would have put that on the Diamond too, but the poor Diamond is just not up to running WM6.5, TF3D, Manilla 2.1 and be able to use the camera or browse albums, there isn't enough RAM or processing power. She will be handing it to me every 5 mins and asking 'what's it trying to do now?'
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Hey bro i clearly said that try the rom from "POST NUMBER 1"
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Since I posted another thread has popped up which may explain the instability issues.
see this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=546824
I use Shaks.P v4.30 rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462455
Disable TF3D, use SPB mobile shell 3.0 with Sence la Révolution V2.
Installer a lot of program.
My diamond no hang n no restart, very very stable.
I think maybe u should flash again, after flash, don restore old system data into new rom, just restore contact only.
For girl purpose, u should install some game too
Hey guys, school just finished so I have finally had time to play with my phone and mess with apps/ROMs. I used to run the Energy ROM, i flashed up to the new energy ROM but there wasn't anything i liked about it. Except I loved the Start button in the bottom row along with the soft keys. I have also tried the Valkyrie ROM (didn't like it at all) and the Leo Evo ROM, which was pretty nice except it runs slow and it seems kind of glitchy. In about 30 of straight use, I had to run a couple of soft restarts. Other than that I wouldn't mind the LEO Evo ROM.
I liked the older Energy ROM i was on, however I really want the Start button in the bottom left hand corner. I was trying to look for a cab for this, but was unsuccessful.
I wouldn't be opposed to trying a different ROM Im open to anything. I typically like to run the Windows Titanium screen because it runs faster than Sense for me, im a big texter, and I don't have data plan, so I need easy WiFi setup and workability (although this is no problem with the Keyboard Controller, I have it set to the back mute key, finally found a use for it, eh? haha). So lets hear what you guys got for me!
EDIT: Also, Is there a way to access the task manager with the Start button in the bottom left corner, besides going to start, then tools then task manger or whatever
I was also looking into the Titanizer, anyone know anything about how well it works? Thanks
I went through a few roms before installing Leo Cell Evo 9.1 (23XXX Build). While I was happy with roms I went through first, I was impressed with the Leo Cell Evo rom. There are so many things that you can customize to make it truly yours. You can also stick with how it installs and be more than satisfied with it. In the rom, the "Tweak Tools" are available under the programs tab and all the options are there. 3 thumbs up from me.
I have had good luck with the Energy roms with Titanium only. In order to get the start menu button in the bottom curtain you just need to flash a rom with a build in the 23xxx series. The 21xxx series roms are with the start menu on the top curtain. I find the 21xxx roms to be more stable and I like having the task manager at my disposal and to be able to take a quick glance at my memory usage as well with the 21xxx rom.
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Hey guys, school just finished so I have finally had time to play with my phone and mess with apps/ROMs. I used to run the Energy ROM, i flashed up to the new energy ROM but there wasn't anything i liked about it. Except I loved the Start button in the bottom row along with the soft keys
I was also looking into the Titanizer, anyone know anything about how well it works? Thanks
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Wow, I like almost everything about the NRG ROMs. I would suggest that you pick your ROM and then stay with it for a week or so to get to know how it works. NRG ROMS in particular need to be tuned to make battery life longer, and the battery gauge is not so accurate for the first few days. I like the tools that he cooks into the ROM.
Yeah well with the 23xxx series, I was really satisfied withe the NRG with the bottom start menu but there were a lot of things that glitched here and there. Like for some reason, it took me forever to try to get rid of the keyboard once it came up in total commander or something like that.
This is what I have stuck to the longest so far. I have little things that bother me a lot, thats why I have been flashing a lot. Along with using the Titanium theme I use an app from the Marketplace called "Home Screen Customizer" which lets you remove and reorganize your ascreen and add an "Apps" page. I also threw in a Facebook and MS Office tab from the second link. But I think my final decision is cooking this ROM in the link with some apps and games from other ROMs. I'm not looking forward to all the work though. haha.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=625614&highlight=rim+rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511052
If you want the start menu in the left corner (windows 6.5.3 or 6.5.5) And the taskmanager linked with the start button, you should really check out the valkyre roms again.
Espescially this version valkyrie.ftp v6.5.23115tr2.5 25th april wm6.5.5 without extra tabbs. This is one of the fastest and most stable roms you are going to find here for the rhodium.
You said you didn't like that rom, what didn't you like about it? If don't like the layout, you always change it yourself. But if you want a really stable and fast rom, you should check it out again.
Ark's Rhodium roms are my absolute favorite.
http://htcpedia.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1730&page=1
i have used EnergyROM since February (Thats when i got my Rhodium) but Ark's roms are the fastest, cleanest, and overall best for battery life I have found. I love it. I highly highly highly recommend it if you like the stock look but a custom feel with a super fast shot of adrenaline in there!
If you get the HTC Messaging Client one then I suggest you install the newer version of it via CAB (if i find it, i'll post it here) because the new 2014 revisions of the HTC Messaging Client are faster-- i mean, if you text
Lennyz1988 said:
If you want the start menu in the left corner (windows 6.5.3 or 6.5.5) And the taskmanager linked with the start button, you should really check out the valkyre roms again.
Espescially this version valkyrie.ftp v6.5.23115tr2.5 25th april wm6.5.5 without extra tabbs. This is one of the fastest and most stable roms you are going to find here for the rhodium.
You said you didn't like that rom, what didn't you like about it? If don't like the layout, you always change it yourself. But if you want a really stable and fast rom, you should check it out again.
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its not so much the layout as the little things that bug me. I tried that built you suggested and it was nice but for some reason it always sent me a confirmation text saying that my last text I sent out was sent. I tried disabling it when I went into Message Options- then uncheck the box for delivery confirmation. I posted on the Valkyrie thread about it maybe there is a fix for it. I tried different styles but I like the standard threaded SMS (similar to the 6.1 style).
and shishir95, I tried to look at that ROM you suggested and I had to make a htcpedia account and I did not get a confirmation of my account yet.. I did look at some of the ROMs and apps and im awaiting my confirmation now
Why is my HTC TP2 Acting like slowpoke?
it laggs like REALLY REALLY MUCH
freezes much etc etc.
i have this problem with ALL ROM's.
even the standart european!
what am i doing wrong?
i use
task29
then
customruu.exe
and reboot.
after using 1-2 hours i notice the slowpoke speed..
how can i fix this?
1. Disable unused internet connections. (Modaco "no data" application, for example).
2. DIssable 3g, use only GSM. go to settings wireless controls -> 3g click only to GSM.
3. Dissable homescreen weather animation.
[hkcu]\software\htc\manila\home.wallpapermode - change to 2
4. Dissable unused manila tabs - preferebly all internet.
Registry > HKLM > Software > HTC > Manila > HTCService > I have disable twitter and stocks. just rename twitterService.dll to twitterServiceXXX.dll and Yahoo stock service YgosrvService.dll to YgosrvServiceXXX.dll. If you are using energy, you can dissable recent documents tab, reader, facbook, call history tabs as well.
for registry changes you can use total commander ->plugins->registry.
Softreset the phone.
hope this will work.
what rom do you prefer? i dont care whats on it, i only care if it looks good a lil and goes fast, cause i hate slowpoke phones ty
These two cabs helped me out a lot.
One disables push internet. the other one helps with memory leak when programs are closed.
xheroxkefx said:
what rom do you prefer? i dont care whats on it, i only care if it looks good a lil and goes fast, cause i hate slowpoke phones ty
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You can usually read someones rom in the signature.
xheroxkefx said:
what rom do you prefer? i dont care whats on it, i only care if it looks good a lil and goes fast, cause i hate slowpoke phones ty
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Energy ROMs focus on speed. But the fastest way is to run pure titanium / WM 6.x (no Sense 2.1 or 2.5). That will give the best performance.
So far my favorite ROM experience is a custom one that I built myself using a visual kitchen. It is extremely easy and you get exactly what you want and none of the bloat.
where can i get this kitchen?
can you explain me ?
i would really like to experiment!
Hey guys, you might have seen I have posted on here requesting help with ROMs and suggestions for which ones and so on. Now, I'm gonna attempt to help everyone else out there. I use my phone a lot (mainly between texting and internet), and here is my breakdown of various UI's
Sense - great looks, however it slows down very fast after only receiving a few texts and emails. People who go easy on there phones would like this.
Titanium - Simple, probably one of the fastest, responsive, overall great. However I found the usage of it to be kinda harder because you don't have as many options on the Today page. Yes this is customize able, but I went away from it. I wanted something that was all there.
MaxSense - This looks AMAZING. When I first saw someone post something about it a couple weeks ago I looked into it and I basically loved it. However, at this point it is still glitchy and buggy. I would love to see how it looks like in a month or two! Also, I can't add as many widgets as I would have liked too. Don't get me wrong this is an amazing work in progress! I mean, hey, It's free, I can't really complain am i right? haha
SPB Mobile Shell - My dad bought this a while ago, and I asked him to install it. It was basically MaxSense, but not nearly as buggy and it didn't take up as much memory AND there are more availability for widgets! Down side, you got to bust out 30 dollars for it. I am now looking into customizing SPB and options are looking good. Also, for Mobile Shell, I flashed a clean rom to let it run faster. Also, I use wm6.5.5 with the Start menu at the bottom, I am looking for a "widget" that would emulate the Start menu because It doesnt show at the bottom due to Mobile Shell's interface which overlaps it. I realized you don't really need to use it, but it would be kinda nice. Currently I am looking for the Slide Clock (like the Android/Sense clock) as opposed to the standard Mobile SHell clock. Links would be nice guys
Everything has its ups and downs, I hope I helped some people out there in an easy breakdown of what I have gone through the past month or so.
this might be something you are interested in...it is my favorite SPB theme/skin/widget pack.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=604146
There is more to just a good ROM than just which home screen you use.
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There is more to just a good ROM than just which home screen you use.
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Yeah, well I meant like the general categories of ROMs, woops
NRGZ rom with spb or deepshining?
Hey guys,
Currently waiting for NRGZ's rom with maxsense to finish downloading. I'm running the latest deepshining rom and was wondering do you think my rhodeo 300 would be faster if I loaded spb shell with energy rom?
Or should I just keep shining and run spb shell over that?
If i were you I would just run something cleaner over it. For example, the Energy Titanium ROM. But if you like the apps and stuff on DeepShining and don't want to change, thats one thing. Just a suggestion. Good luck
I use default WM today and since then I dont have problems with speed or memory...
This is exactly my thinking. I really like the Spb Shell because it has the left and right scroll like Android. I love wallpaper, so I only applied widgets to the left and right home screens. Since I had flashed my first rom, I had been looking for a clean rom to run Spb Shell on. I really wanted to try Freyberry's Barebone but have not found a working link yet. Anyway, I'm using Energy MaxSense and I like it alot. It has the scrolling wallpaper which is key for me . Besides the preinstalled widgets it only lets you add 3 other widgets I believe. Spb let's you turn all icons into widgets. It would be great if you could more thoroughly integrate the shell into the rom, not just preinstall it. I look forward to your rom and will be among the first to try it.
With all that said, what ROM would you suggest as a "clean" ROM to run SPB MS on? And what exactly is "clean"? Obviously I need messaging, GPS, camera, and many of the other pre-installed software. I'm new to this.
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With all that said, what ROM would you suggest as a "clean" ROM to run SPB MS on? And what exactly is "clean"? Obviously I need messaging, GPS, camera, and many of the other pre-installed software. I'm new to this.
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By clean I think most people think "bug free and runs smooth"
I have heard that the Jacko "old school" ROM is pretty clean. NRG sometimes makes a "Titanium" ROM that does not have Sense cooked in, I have used that one with Mobile Shell with good results. He only burns it occasionally, but whatever is out there should be OK to use.
kfreels said:
With all that said, what ROM would you suggest as a "clean" ROM to run SPB MS on? And what exactly is "clean"? Obviously I need messaging, GPS, camera, and many of the other pre-installed software. I'm new to this.
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I'm new to this forum myself. I guess 'clean' is a generic term, but what I mean by clean is free of all unnecessary clutter because I'm sure that Spb Shell will consume it's fair share of ram. Of course, what is 'clutter' is determined by the indivdual. I want it to run as close to a native OS as possible without interference.