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Could I please be so greedy as to have a Orange-UK only thread?
I am been reading and searching in earnest to see what other peoples experiences are with the various Radio ROMs. It seems most people are happy with 1.38.00.10, although seems to be a few instances of people sticking with older versions because of battery life/drop outs/data freezes. But I am unable to establish what other people are experiencing in the UK on Orange's network.
I am well familiar with the Radio ROM 1.38 + WM6 - good or bad? thread, but not many people in there commenting on Orange UK.
If you are on Orange UK, please can you share you experiences here?
My own experience has been thus.
Before upgrading to WM6, was on stock M3100, which had Radio 1.06 I beleive. This worked flawlessy with push email (Exch 2003), and never had any problems at all with it. This was also the case when I upgraded to LVSW 20070315, leaving Radio Rom as was.
Then I upgraded to Black 2.0 last week, and did the Radio to 1.34 with it. I didnt notice any problems at first, or rather didnt take much notice of not getting email notifications whilst at work. But on Friday I realised the Data connections were freezing.
I have tried going to 1.38.00.10, to 1.35, back to 1.06, even 1.27. Have also tried going back to LVSW 20070315, and am now on LVSW 20070408
I have narrowed it all down to the "common" problem in swicthing between GSM and 3G. At home I seem to be between 3 transmitters, and swicthing is common. Hence the problems I was having Friday.
The Excellent commmgrpro has helped here. Also Bandswitch.
Anyway, with Phone set to GSM only I have no problems. Odd thing is, driving to Sheffield and back yesterday (dont mention the football!!), with phoen set to Auto, I had no problems at all.
Yet at home, and at work, on auto the data connection freezes.
So.... Whats everyone else using on Orange?
i've been using rom 3.23.0.2 with radio 1.38.00.10 on a spv m3100. this device is been freezing like you described in your post, thing is, it's become unuseable since you have to reboot after the freeze and it happens almost continiously... driving me insane.
if anyone knows of a way how to get back wm5, i'd appreciate it!
freben
When I upgraded a while ago I was wondering the same thing. The only negatives re 1.38 at the time seemed to come from orange UK customers so I went for the 1.27 radio and it seems fine.
Have not yet stepped up further, and at the moment, see no reason to.
Especially as I can even get the H now and then. (If it aint broke...)
@Phil, I've "gone black" (v 2.0) with Radio 1.38.00.10 - only since Saturday, so it may be too early to tell. I've got a push email account with Mail2Web, which I don't tend to use that regularly - it's good for aggregating lots of mail stuff when I go away on business, but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
Since installing the new ROM/Radio/SPL, my M3100 seems to be much better than it was prior to the update. I've reinstalled all my apps (apart from PPCProfilesPRO - I'll do that tonight) and the phone seems really stable - no more random lockups when taking it off charge and only a couple of "slowdowns" when ending calls, or if Activesync'ing....can't really complain if I'm honest
I'll keep an eye on things - and maybe switch on the Exchange push email for a couple of days - and I'll post again if the situation changes.
Cheers,
Mark.
PS - Message for @freben; read MrVanx's guide on downgrading to WM5 - see THIS POST for details of how to find it.
MrVanx kindly provides a guide here: http://www.mrvanx.myzen.co.uk/hermes_guide/Downgrade/
Do please read very carefully before trying it
Yep...1.27 for me. No real radio problems to report.
Spent a couple of weeks with WMXL 2.0 and the last two weeks with Black 2.0. Both work fine with Orange with 3g (inc HSDPA) and voice. Direct push/web/pop email all fine.
One freeze this morning (first one in two weeks) but dont know if it was radio or os or an app?
Can;t compare with other radios but simply can say am happy with 1.27 (hence why I havent tried 1.38 etc)
Having no problems with set up in sig.
had the freezing with the stock set up.
Could/should we be more scientific here and use one of the many web2.0 survey sites to do a ROM/OS survey to find the right mix?
with a little effort we could then find the most reliable Radio ROM and view by Country/OS/carrier/etc.
just a suggestion..
Mark Crouch said:
but my data package ain't up to much (don't get me started ) so I only switch it on when required.
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@Mark,
try Orange World Browsing, 8ukp for unlimited data access 24/7
Give O a call on 150 and then the billing option, 4
Orange World Browsing is what is what the O rep told me it was listed as. I think one of the key points is the cost, it’s 6.81 exc VAT or 8 inc VAT, that’s the way to check you have the right package.
And you need to be on a 35ukp per month tarif or more to get it.
apologies for off topic post!!
(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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(I was told it was Orange World Unlimited)
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My bill confirms it as Orange World Browsing -although I too thought it was OWU.
Not sure if it is still so hard to get as it once was.
Sheep_Head - Well, I am definetely up for using a survey site - any recommendations?
I gave re-flashed my phone back to Black 2.0. Seems to be what most people are using here (IMHO). Have tried Radio 1.27, 1.38.00, and right back to 1.07.
With a totally clean device (i.e. straight after flashing), setting up the orangeinternet connection manually, the thing just wont connect to 3G. Only when I have Band set to GSM will it connect.
Jeez!
I am now in the process of going back to an Orange WM5 rom, to see if it makes any difference, (albeit the Romanian one, so will have to reset the internet connection).
Getting mildly frustrated now.
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
philg2000 said:
OK, I'm now back to Orange Radio version, and Orange WM5 -(Romanian!)
Entered Orange Internet settings. And have gained nothing. COnnects via GSM, but not via 3G.
Grrrrrr....
Spoke to Orange CS - no reported 3G problems in my area (well, what about me???).
What's the panel's opinion on sending a phone back to O with OliPro's bootloader on it? (well, and the Romanian Rom, but they prob wouldnt spot that).
I have insurance etc, so would get a replacement in advance....
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dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
Hey guys - mega useful thread.
I 'thought' I had solved all of my woes and was feeling bloody smug with myself as I thought I had managed to keep the stupid questions down to a minimum. After reading this obviously not .
I am running Black v2.0 (happily) and the rest of the handset is as per my sig block but I have removed spb pocketbooks and replaced it with shell. I thought it was all working correctly but I am suffering the same connectivity issues as yourself (gprs and not 3G).
Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Anything I can help with or test let me know and I will do what I can.
Bezman.
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Also - and I have read the threads but still not working (was going to try again after a re-re-re build I still have no VM notifications.
Bezman.
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I have just tested the voicemail fix again since my reinstall and the certificates cab plus installing the sms dll has always worked for me.
Are you having any specific issues with it?
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
mrvanx said:
dude as a last ditch attempt can you try out flashing LVSWs latest ROM?? Make sure your settings are good and post the results?? (it wont take long)
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Hmmm... I dont think that will achieve anything. I have had the latest LVSW ROM on there a while bad, with the same problem.
I'd really like to hear from anyone who has returned a flashed M3100 to Orange.
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CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions.
Bezman.
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The only way I have done this recently is using Resco File Explorer. You need to go into the Options menu to ensure you can see all files, then copy the sms_providers.dll into the \Windows directory. It warns you, but if you say yes it lets it happen. I have done this numerous times (have flashed my phone about 10 times recently!) without any problems!
wberesford said:
CrazyC,
I am struggling with the whole copying over of the .dll file in the widows directory. Like I said I have done a search of the wiki on VM notifications etc and followed the directions. I have attempted using Activesync but keep getting a response saying that the destination is in use. I have tried directly on the handset (not expecting it to work) and it doesn't and finally I tried by using Total Commander. Still no joy. I will keep going with it though as I was thinking about building again from fresh anyways, and then attempting the vm notification from clean.
Gonna wait out for black v2.5 before I do that however.
Cheers for getting back to me though!
Bezman.
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First few times I did this, it just copied OK with the file explorer. Most recently tho it gave me the same error - so I went to the zip file on my ppc and told it to extract directly to the windows folder, said yes to overwrite and it did. Maybe worth a try. (install the certs first incase it makes a difference.)
SMS Providers CAB
To make my life easier I put the sms_providers.dll from WM5 into a CAB. To install make sure you've installed the sdk certificates (http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35814&d=1174572298) first and then install this cab - a soft reset is requested at the end of installation and is required.
I've tested this on the latest LVSW ROM and it works perfectly, hopefully will overcome peoples issues with copying this file.
From what I've gathered reading about the GPS problems on XV6900's with Verizon....you might need to know the history of my ROM's.
1. I got the phone brand new 3 weeks ago and of course it came with 6.0 out of the box.
2. I installed the newest Verizon 6.1 ROM w/ radio 3.37.78
3. I then installed NFSFAN's 6.5 v7 ROM
4. I installed "NFSFAN Verizon GPS Registry.cab"
So for starters my GPS does not ever connect. I don't even know where to start. I've been searching and reading on here for 4 hours this morning and about 5 hours before bed last night. I just got really confused. Lots of what I found was regarding an older Verizon 6.1 update, so I'm not sure any of that was applicable to me. Please point me in the right direction so I can start using Google Maps. Thanks in advance!
Now Pandora.....I have installed the pandora app that I found in the NSFFAN's 6.5 FAQ thread. Well it installed fine, but when it asks for my email and password there is no where to input them. The screen is just solid blue and at the bottom says "Back" and "Sign In". I changed my hardware button to bring up a keyboard thinking that might help, but no such luck. I have uninstalled it and reinstalled it once already. Once again thanks in advance!
-Travis
Alright, I realize it sucks when there is a new thread every week about this, but there is also a ton of old information on this site and it makes finding an answer very hard and even when I think I know what to do I look at the thread date and it's over a year old....and thus refering to an old Verizon ROM. Obviously the answer in on this site somewhere I just need someone to point me to the most recent solution that also correlates with my ROM history and problem. If I have to I'll paypal someone $5 if they can get my GPS working.
I haven't seen anyone have the problem I'm having with Pandora. Has anyone had this issue? Am I actually alone on this one? Are there any other native Pandora program options?
slow88lx said:
From what I've gathered reading about the GPS problems on XV6900's with Verizon....you might need to know the history of my ROM's.
1. I got the phone brand new 3 weeks ago and of course it came with 6.0 out of the box.
2. I installed the newest Verizon 6.1 ROM w/ radio 3.37.78
3. I then installed NFSFAN's 6.5 v7 ROM
4. I installed "NFSFAN Verizon GPS Registry.cab"
So for starters my GPS does not ever connect. I don't even know where to start. I've been searching and reading on here for 4 hours this morning and about 5 hours before bed last night. I just got really confused. Lots of what I found was regarding an older Verizon 6.1 update, so I'm not sure any of that was applicable to me. Please point me in the right direction so I can start using Google Maps. Thanks in advance!
Now Pandora.....I have installed the pandora app that I found in the NSFFAN's 6.5 FAQ thread. Well it installed fine, but when it asks for my email and password there is no where to input them. The screen is just solid blue and at the bottom says "Back" and "Sign In". I changed my hardware button to bring up a keyboard thinking that might help, but no such luck. I have uninstalled it and reinstalled it once already. Once again thanks in advance!
-Travis
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For the first time you open pandora,
open the keyboard before you open pandora,
it should stay open.
it's a problem with pandora itself.
also it seems to not be working correctly with 6.5 as of right now.
I put it on there for others to test for me,
but everyone is reporting it is a no go.
:/
hopefully pandora will release a update asap.
Also, gps issue,
verizon is blocking ip's or something like that,
therefore everything people are doing to make gps work,
is more of a work around.
And I'm sure verizon will figure out a way to counteract those as they are crafty son's of b*tches when it comes to people unlocking stuff they want locked down.
Hi guys -
Loving all the ROMS available here, breathed new life into my p3600i, i've tried maybe 10 different ROMs in the past days.
Too many, but only because everytime i settle on one, it dies on me. i install all the apps i want on it, use it for 24hours or so, then out of nowhere, phone sort of freezes (not responding), i get impatient, memory leak maybe, then do a soft-reset via the stylus.
What happens next is it reboots, and restarts as if i've just flahsed the ROM (i.e. a hard-reset)!!! Can anybody tell me why this keeps happening no matter which ROM i use?
very frustrating, please advise...
I'm really looking to settle on one and use for at least a few weeks/months!
Thanks in advance!
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Hi guys -
Loving all the ROMS available here, breathed new life into my p3600i, i've tried maybe 10 different ROMs in the past days.
Too many, but only because everytime i settle on one, it dies on me. i install all the apps i want on it, use it for 24hours or so, then out of nowhere, phone sort of freezes (not responding), i get impatient, memory leak maybe, then do a soft-reset via the stylus.
What happens next is it reboots, and restarts as if i've just flahsed the ROM (i.e. a hard-reset)!!! Can anybody tell me why this keeps happening no matter which ROM i use?
very frustrating, please advise...
I'm really looking to settle on one and use for at least a few weeks/months!
Thanks in advance!
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Try running a Rom WITHOUT installing your apps and see if you still have the problem. If not, then add one program at a time until you discover which program is causing the problem.
Thanks for the reply, it's happened to me again, t his time whilst syncying with my exchange server it hung after about 5mins downloading (usually takes no more than 3 mins - I know cause it's the 10th time i've had to do it). Essentially these are the list of CABS i install:
1) SPB Pocket Plus
2) SPB Keyboard
3) SPB Back-up (only recently so i don't have to re-install apps)
4) PocketMusic
5) TomTom (off SD Card)
I've nailed it down to times where i'm running a memory intensive app (TOMTOM or Syncing using Outlook) where I use the stylus and do a soft-reset as screen has frozen up.
After that boom it's as if i did a hard-reset and have to configure/re-install from scratch!
I'm confused/frustrated!
argh it's happened again! this time i was not even doing anything special!
Could it have anything to do with: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399779
> WARNING BEFORE FLASHING:
While most people have not had any problems, a small but consistent number have reported lockups with various ROMs, requiring either soft or hard resets, depending on the conflicting program.
Have backups of your data, and be prepared that something you install might break the ROM you have installed.
UPDATE: It seems like lockups are possible even with (practically) nothing installed - while they do seem to be less likely the less you install, apparently there does not seem to be any P3600i immune to this issue, whether full of programs or not. Note that the newer ROMs seem to be more stable
As much as I loved playing with the cooked ROMS, how do i go back to original HTC provided ROM?
i've not been able to download the official HTC ROM after putting in my phone's S/N. possibly because there were no p3600i ROMS listed so i had to go for a d810.
anyway, i'm now trying a WM6.0 ROM, will see how i go. for those that have been around long, was this ever an issue, i.e. p3600i users trying cooked WM6.1 ROMS with stability/hard-reset issues?
Unfortunately, I am using a standard P3600, so I cannot verify your issue. I just know how to diagnose simple things. I know that on my phone, added software is usually the issue.
I can verify TomTom runs fine on my phone, but I don't use the other 4. I do run SPB Mobile shell 2 and 3, and SPB Weather, without any problems.
Hopefully, somebody else can shed some light on this?
Good Luck gunnerxl
I can confirm the same issues, I have not found ONE cooked ROM that will let my p3600i last more than a month without a freeze of some type that requires a hard reset.
Search the forums for my posts on this, been here for ages trying every single ROM, all fail on my PDA.
I'm of the opinion that my PDA is actually faulty in the onboard RAM, because there are some seriously fine ROMs here and it would be close to impossible that all the ROMs end with the same fault.
All the ROM cookers here do a fantastic job, put in a great effort and I thank them.
Even the stock ROM for my PDA has failed me.
I have learned to use back ups and make sure I have all my contacts stored on 2 computers etc, to recover from a hard reset is no real issue to me, just an annoying glitch until I upgrade to the next PDA.
I have not been able to find a program that will functionally test the onboard RAM like what is available for an PC.
IMHO - if you can afford it, UPGRADE away from the p3600i, but this is CLEARLY a biased opinion.
try schaps WM6.0 ROM, been using for past 2 days without any hard-resets... it's possibly that our version of the p3600i's HAVE to use WM6.0, all the WM6.1/5 ROMS crashed out on me, i'll test with intensive usage for the next couple days and report back... hopefully no issues, any other WM6.0 ROMS available? I used the official list at top of this forum section...
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try schaps WM6.0 ROM, been using for past 2 days without any hard-resets... it's possibly that our version of the p3600i's HAVE to use WM6.0, all the WM6.1/5 ROMS crashed out on me, i'll test with intensive usage for the next couple days and report back... hopefully no issues, any other WM6.0 ROMS available? I used the official list at top of this forum section...
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I have tried Schaps, have tried them ALL as I previously stated.
All the ROMs available are the ones listed, there are no others that are known to WORK that have been supplied to THIS forum.
You won't get a custom ROM from here above WM6 for the P3600i that is stable. This is because HTC only supports up to WM6 on them. Why does this matter? A core component of any ROM you flash is the kernel for the phone. This is customised by HTC for the OS. I don't think any ROM 'cook' from here can provide real stability because the kernel doesn't support WM6 or above. For real stability someone has to modify the kernel file itself in the ROM.
So there are no stable 6.1's or 6.5's here. Me, stability is paramount, I'll stick with the official WM6 ROM.
The D810 official download of WM6 is the same one as for the P3600i. Indeed, you can only get it if you say your phone is a D810 on the Asia site.
I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
@grungysquash. A pity really, but your so far in the minority that after reading all the threads that you said you read I find it hard to believe you don't notice all the raves about this device. If it were me that'd make me think maybe there's something I'm missing. I had a tytn 2 also and wow, that does take me back. Like my tp2 way,way better.
So hearing how many kudos the tp2 gets maybe you should give it a better go.
Now you might think this a stupid question , but I gotta ask as you'd be amazed how many don't know this: Re the gps, Two things are a must to do before it will work properly. Under your network settings the box for being able to see the device location has to be checked. It is usually unchecked by default. Also enable quick gps. Try google maps to test as it is the easiest. The first sat. lock can take a min. I can use my gps with google maps inside most buildings and it is very fast.
Don't be impatient and take it easy and you'll find the answers to your issues, then you'll find your issues wern't much of an issue after all.
Give it a fair shot tho. Good Luck.
P.S. have you checked out ppcgeeks? I don't recall seeing anyone with your handle commenting over there. Maybe I missed it, but that is the place for fantastic tp2 info. Not that xda isn't good.
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I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
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Translation: Telstra's ROM Sucks.
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But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
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Translation: Your GPS is broken.
grungysquash said:
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
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Install QuickGPS, you'll be able to easily see the status of the GPS with it.. If it's not getting any sats, the GPS is broken for whatever reason. There's not likely any settings in QuickGPS you need to do unless Telestra set it wrong in the registry. I recall reading some folks found UK where they needed US in the QuickGPS registry entries, thus downloading the wrong set of ephemeris data. Possible, but regardless of bad QuickGPS data if it doesn't get sats within a minute there is a hardware problem. QuickGPS data just gives it some initial information in order to more quickly evaluate satellite positions.
Get Energy's rom
You gotta ask yourself, why am I the only person with this problem.
grungysquash said:
I have always thought HTC had excellent phone - so I went out and brought the touch pro 2 to to replace my TyTn ii.
boy what a mistake - sorry but I'm really sick of the problems (owned for less than 1 day!!!), first Telstra had the phone so full of crud that it ran like a 3 legged dog, then could not get the darn thing to sync with exchange server until I found a post recommending the change of the setting under one of the data options, this only took 2 hours of troubleshooting (still can't get it to sync when plugged in has to flash a cab for the hardspl to work) - no problem flashed new Rom from 6.1 to 6.5 using the energy rom - which I have to admit fixed all the issues, now fast looks good - all happy.
But no - bloody GPS won't work so after a further 5 hours of stuffing round now 1am have given up. Can't find location settings for the quick GPS (have bloody scoured this forum and google) installed Tom tom 7.19, 7.10 (4 versions so far) - map works just no bloody GPS, google maps won't work - yep no bloody GPS. remove faulty blue-tooth drivers - hard booted, soft booted, even thrown the stupid thing across the room - yep that did not help either.
Never had these issues with the TyTn II - how the heck can a new state of the art phone be just as useless as this.
rant over - off to bed.
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Unlucky mate - you picked the right ROM, just the wrong version. GPS isn't working on the latest NRG ROM. I'm sure it'll be fixed shortly but in the meantime I'd use the previous version.
The TP2 is definitely THE best phone currently available.
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Unlucky mate - you picked the right ROM, just the wrong version. GPS isn't working on the latest NRG ROM. I'm sure it'll be fixed shortly but in the meantime I'd use the previous version.
The TP2 is definitely THE best phone currently available.
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am running Pure Energy's 24th rom - which I think is brilliant, if this has a fault (seems there is a post which shows someone else has the identical problem.) then this would explain this.
Will flash the older rom and see how I go - a new day a new challenge, have to admit the phone looks nice again this morning just had to reset the exchange settings after the hard reset. Everything works except the GPS
I did google into ppcgeeks forum but have not joined - have been flashing phones since I struggled with the mighty JamJam with winmo5, (ended up flashing 4 others too for work mates who got sick of the soft reset) have always been able to sort issues like this out just this one I could not resolve.
GPS is fine in the Energy Phoenix2 28002 build. I loaded it shortly before the 28004 version was up'ed and would imagine GPS would be fine there too based on the very minimal amount of changes to the ROM.
GPS seems to be broken in the new 21876 build, as used in the very latest EnergyROM. There weren't any reported problems with GPS in the builds before that. Remember, you've downloaded a brand-new cooked ROM on the day it was released, everyone is effectively beta testing this ROM !
Use one of the preceding versions of EnergyROM and you should be fine.
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am running Pure Energy's 24th rom - which I think is brilliant, if this has a fault (seems there is a post which shows someone else has the identical problem.) then this would explain this.
Will flash the older rom and see how I go - a new day a new challenge, have to admit the phone looks nice again this morning just had to reset the exchange settings after the hard reset. Everything works except the GPS
I did google into ppcgeeks forum but have not joined - have been flashing phones since I struggled with the mighty JamJam with winmo5, (ended up flashing 4 others too for work mates who got sick of the soft reset) have always been able to sort issues like this out just this one I could not resolve.
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OK confirmed - it's the ROM - flashed back to 19 Nov NRG EnergyROM GPS working, so it seems the 24 November ROM has a problem which seems to affect the unlucky. I guess the fact I flashed the rom on day of release coupled with the fact it was the first ROM I had flashed on the phone (only hours old) I assumed there was some fault with the unit - when the fault lies with the user. Time to Slap myself DOH
I apologize for my above rant, brought on by hours of frustration and lack of sleep - maybe the three or so beers did not help with the trouble shooting either.
I have been using cooked ROMs for so long now that I can't even remember. Only very recently have I been forced to use official ROMs becuase of unavailability of HardSPLs.
I have only had this issue with two devices the Touch Pro2 and Imagio but i'm pretty sure that it happens with other models also.
Error examples:
'a problem has occurred with fexplorer.exe'
'a problem has occurred with services.exe'
I am a flash freek and every time I load about 100+ games and about 150+ applications so before everyone starts saying that when you load so many softwares something bad is bound to happen. I have already considered that but here is why i thing the problem is with official ROMs.
- I flashed official ROM and hard reset
- I first left out all the games and only installed the applications but the problem was still there.
- I then split the applications in half and after another hard reset tried with first batch and problem was there. I hard reset and also tried the second batch and problem was there.
- I am not so desperate an i am installing softwares one at a time and then testing for 10-15 mins and then installing the next software to pinpoint the problem.
even with the last approach I cannot pinpoint which software is causing the problem. Sometimes the phone crashes after 10 applications installed and sometimes after I reach 40 applications.
Now some of you will ask and suggest if maybe the problem is with the softwares. Most of the softwares I have are from freewarepocketpc.net but how can it be the software when all these softwares are the same ones that I have been using without any issues on Cooked ROMs for months and not a single crash on the Cooked ROMs.
I have been scratching my head and trying to figure out what is that secret ingredient in the Cooked ROMs that make them so stable and what can we do to make our official ROMs stable.
At one point I though Microsoft .NET Compact Framework was the culprit and so I tired several times with and without it installed and the problem was still there so I ruled it out.
I also tried installing SDK certs on the official ROM but that did'nt fix it either.
Help me out here guys, what am I missing, whats that Secret Ingredient in the cooked ROMs that make them so stable?
Fairy dust, us cooks sprinkle a little over the rom in the building process and it makes them super stable.
Personally I have never had those two errors on a stock rom. Might I ask which brand of those phones are you using? (aka, is it an AT&T, Telstra, Verizon, etc.) Sometimes (make that 99% of the time) the carrier's version of a rom is THE WORST there can be, causing problems like that.
With that note out of the way, you have tried using it without installing anything for a bit to see if the problem still persists right? If not, it could be one, or more likely more than one application is causing it to die.
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
shadowline said:
Personally I have never had those two errors on a stock rom. Might I ask which brand of those phones are you using? (aka, is it an AT&T, Telstra, Verizon, etc.) Sometimes (make that 99% of the time) the carrier's version of a rom is THE WORST there can be, causing problems like that.
With that note out of the way, you have tried using it without installing anything for a bit to see if the problem still persists right? If not, it could be one, or more likely more than one application is causing it to die.
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For Verizon Imagio i've used the official shipped ROM
I also had the same problem on the T-Mobile Touch Pro2 with its shipped WM6.1 ROM and once the HardSPL came out, i tried with the European Pro2 WM6.5 Official ROM and that also had same problem.
Yes I tried using the ROMs without any softwares and they work just fine. So that brings me to the conclusion that the softwares that I am installing are causing this but the problem is how to pinpoint which softwares and if it turns out that a wide variety of softwares are causing this (my suspicion) then why is it happening only with official ROMs and not cooked ones?
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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Does this mean that windows mobile is so unstable that the only way to fix it is to give an illusion of stability by disabling the error reporting?
Say it isn't so, I love WM and if things are so bad with it then I have nowhere else to go.
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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We have a winner!
Thanks
serfer222 said:
the secret words for tonight are
"disable error reporting in your ROM"
most of cooks use this secret weapon.
=)
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After thinking about it a few minutes I get it now. I am shocked that I spent over week testing hundreds of softwares one by one when I could have just disabled the reporting. Thanks for the secret ingredient, i'll give it a go and report back in 1-2 days how my ROM is responding. I can already notice a slight increase in speed.
I know this is blashphemy on XDA, but I have the opposite issue. I've never encountered a cooked ROM as bug free as a stock ROM. Maybe this is b/c I've never bought a carrier phone and always gone for the unbranded, unlocked device, so I've had a clean stock rom to start off with... But with every cooked ROM I've tried (and to be fair, I don't flash regularly like I used to - so maybe things are getting better), there's always something wrong even if its a minute detail like text out of place on some screen hidden away in settings that most users don't find, or lost functionality of special buttons in oem programs like Opera (that most XDAers don't know about b/c they flash the first day they get the device), or lack of proper support for landscape, or improper bluetooth implementations where A2DP doesn't work like it used to, etc.
sonus said:
I know this is blashphemy on XDA, but I have the opposite issue. I've never encountered a cooked ROM as bug free as a stable ROM. Maybe this is b/c I've never bought a carrier phone and always gone for the unbranded, unlocked device, so I've had a clean stock rom to start off with... But with every cooked ROM I've tried (and to be fair, I don't flash regularly like I used to - so maybe things are getting better), there's always something wrong even if its a minute detail like text out of place on some screen hidden away in settings that most users don't find, or lost functionality of special buttons in oem programs like Opera (that most XDAers don't know about b/c they flash the first day they get the device), or lack of proper support for landscape, or improper bluetooth implementations where A2DP doesn't work like it used to, etc.
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I think a lot of cooks are very short-sighted on these issues. I have a habit of testing every button, every program and every feature multiple times before a ROM goes out the door, and I still miss things. Many of the factory ROM's I've used are bad in this regard as well (my Fuze connecting to a secured WiFi network for one). Cutting off the error reporting doesn't really do that much, but I've had crashes before where I had to turn it on to find a bug that was stopping the ROM from working.
Dizzy looking at ...
Man, I got dizzy by looking at your avatar.
Everyone says that.