Possible to remove windows live? - P3300, MDA Compact III General

Currently using the o2 wm6 rom, (I like the 02 rom, i just do'nt like the extra's, would love a stripped wm6 rom with just the 02 task manager and settings!!!)
I do'nt use windows live, even after updating to the version that doesn't sync your contacts automatically (lost all my msn contacts first time i tried as i didn't want them in my phone contact list, deleted them all and then relaised it deleted them all in msn!!!)
I removed the updated version, and i thought, aha! its been removed, on rebooting my phone i had 26mb of free memory, i've never seen that much on the o2 rom, so thought it was gone, but the link is still there and its still on the phone, can you remove windows live? or do you have to have a rom cooked without it already installed?

programs in the rom which are not autostarted dont take up any res

the other reason I was wondering, was because when I updated windows live it told me it had to shut down windows live before it could intall, considering I had'nt launched windows live since turning the phone on, it made me think it must be running something in the background, is there a registry location that apps autostart with? I had a quick look but its not the same as the windows pc, I suppose thats obvious to most! and nothing is autostarting in the start menu to do with live

not sure but if the today item was on it's surely started

no, turned all the live stuf off today screen only has a couple of things and nothing to do with that, I shall have a look around and in the unlikely event of me finding something that no one already knows I shall post it!

Just found out the yesterday that theres a service in wm6 for windows live, I didn't even know wm had services!, that explains why i was told it was in use before

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Some thoughts of the Official O2 WM6 ROM

Although the User Interface is not as good as B&B, But I like to keep it simple.
After hard reset:
Storage Total: 54.09 MB, In use: 6.33MB, Free: 47.76 MB
Program Total: 47.90MB, In use: 23.18 MB, Free: 24.72 MB
Pro:
Faster than WM5, programme switch speed, opening Windows folder is much more quicker than WM5. Battery looks last longer than WM5 (or might have a problem with the battery indication software, consumed 6% on standby over 7 hours.)
Con:
1, still has the Wireless connection problem that will not be able to disconnect WIFI throught Today's screen.
2, very irritating that MSN messenger has to download my MSN email contacts to the phone's contacts.
3, X-Button not available, the HTC X-Button 1.5 not working properly with this ROM, causing system crash.
4, First charge stucked at 88% and orange light, soft reset, back to 100% and green light.
Still testing.......
Edit: Pro: I like the new phone "contact" system. a new number can be added to my existing contact more easily. Also, the contact's total call time and number of calls is very impressive!
Edit: Neutral: MSN issue, updated on page 4.
Edit: Pro: you can add an unknow missed number to your existing contact.
Hmm - my experience on installing the new O2 UK WM6 ROM:
Con:
1) Noticeably slower than WM5 to do almost anything
2) Wasted a whole evening reinstalling and reconfiguring all my applications
3) No useful new functionality
Pro:
Nothing yet.
I installed it yesterday evening, after installing it, it seemed a bit slow. Now i got it all set up it is pretty fast and works allright. Only software I installed extra was spb diary.
Only thing i find annoying is that you can't disable wifi from the icon on the today screen. But there is a shortcut to the com manager on the o2 plug in so it makes up for it.
o2 rom has got some nice tools on the today screen like the profiles, meters, you can see the last call on the today screen also there is a today plug-in that shows the applications that are running, you can also end them from there. So its same as x-button. You can find it under the custom 02 today plug-in setting.
But still waiting to try out B&B4.0 with the touch flow.
Greetz,
Dushman.
betaexpert said:
2, very irritating that MSN messenger has to download my MSN email contacts to the phone's contacts.
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any workaround for this ?
Can you tell me does your smart dialling work ? i ask because i have flashed this rom twice now and when i get the dialpad up there are no contacts in the top half, so i can't scroll through my contacts ! And all the smart dialling options are enabled by default.
Thanks....
anothe rthought of O2 WM6
Well, I before I went to bed aroudn midnight (UK time) I thought I check the O2 site and bingo the link is back there. 5 minutes download and 10 minutes later WM6 running on my XDA ORbit.
1- much much snappier. Opening folder, program, setting, contact, emails, explorer etc... has a whole lot new feel to it.
2- GPS works faultless with tomtom.
3- got rid of O2 phone skin and restored the OEM phone skin. Prettier and snappier.
4- I dont want the the x button to close application. I do keep few running such as email, explorer, contacts, and calendar. O2 provides a simple application to view/close running applications. I also, use Explorer 2007 which has the same functionality.
5- cannot close wifi from today screen. Minor inconvenience.
6- Office applications updated.
7- Explorer still works (LOL) and believe I tried Opera and other and I always go back to Explorer. It renders the screen better. Sure no tabs but I dont use them on my mobile, on my desktop yes.
8- Emailer you can now see html - a great boost for me as I need it (you can still block images if you wish) and very useful. Previosuly I use Qmail which I think is the best but lets give the emailer a chance.
9- I heavily use msn and voip and they work faultless (even when conncted to Activesync) I can still sue my wifi for voip.
10- battery comsumption seems to be the same. Battery Was 95% when went to bed (tested email,explorer, windows live etc...), 9:30 am it is still 88%.
11- I like the encryption facilities and finally I can encrypt my files on the storage card natively. Previously I used Cryptainer LE (free).
12- Internet sharing works (just make sure your connection is secure).
13- wireless security are all there as before (wpa-wpa2-wpa2-psk etc..).
thats it really. No major new things, just improvements and the OS definitely faster and less memory hungry.
Still testing it of course ...
Where's the terminal services client? Have they removed it? I've seen a seperate install for it somewehere.
Also, I assume I don't need the storage card fix from HTC for this?
Don't have anything new to add that hasn't been said already.........except that i don't like it. Been using B&B3.7 until last night. O2 WM6 seems like a step backwards from this ROM, not sure why.
terminal services
Terminal services gone and rightly so. What is the use of it on a phone without a keyboard and 320x240 screen (YMMV) ? Now, if I am using the king of phones (XDA Exec )with the best keyboard then I will miss it.
Well I have 2 GB sotrage and I am keeping an eye on it. Lets hope we dont need the fix ;-) (Of course I have backed up everyhting three times just in case.
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Where's the terminal services client? Have they removed it? I've seen a seperate install for it somewehere.
Also, I assume I don't need the storage card fix from HTC for this?
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The WM6 build from O2 contains the Sd card fix so no need to add this to the build. The issue with not being able to turn wifi off from today screen is in all WM6 builds not just Orbit.
Cheers
LB
oops silly me, forget my smart dialling problem, there is'nt one, just me being dumb. http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon11.gif
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Ok im pleased with this new 02 rom now, but i will have to try the new B&B 4.0 when i comes out. can't wait for that.
I have noticed one very small odd thing though, when you go to select a new text message alert, there are 2 x dogbark, 2 x ding and 2 x alouette ?
otherwise fine....
Updated no problem, got the wifi problem from the today screen, also my bluetooth isnt working, anyone else got this problem?
Lazarou said:
Updated no problem, got the wifi problem from the today screen, also my bluetooth isnt working, anyone else got this problem?
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Yes I am afraid it is not possible to disablethe wifi from the today screen, you will have to use the comm manager.
What problems u have with bluetooth?
I have beentesting it, like sending files, images, headsets and no rpoblems at all.
redjupiter said:
Yes I am afraid it is not possible to disablethe wifi from the today screen, you will have to use the comm manager.
What problems u have with bluetooth?
I have beentesting it, like sending files, images, headsets and no rpoblems at all.
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thanks for replying but it seems to be fine now after a soft reset
Lazarou said:
thanks for replying but it seems to be fine now after a soft reset
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Just one thing, you probably know that, receiving files via bluetooth is disabled by default. You will have to enable it via the registry.
cheers
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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http://www.modaco.com/FREE-Utility-t246171.html
fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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I never setup the GPRS, when it asks on first hardset screen, I always unticked the option. Though, I think you can turn it off by:
O2 Operator Settings--> tick the "i want to do auto configuration now", and scroll the underneath menu down, choose "remove all settings".--> click the top right "OK", done.
and to think that no one has mentioned abotu the new looking solitaire? are your priorities not right??? (just kidding )
Phone working great on WM6 for me - some real response improvments in places. TomTom working good from SD card too - new reinstall required there. Hell - I even like the 02 additional software for a change (like I did with WM5 on the orbit - unlike their today screen stuff on XDA2i....)
So that's at least 1 happy customer...
(and in fairness - their billing dept has been very helpful to me since a billing error - I really can't fault them there)
fei said:
does anyone know how to turn off gprs
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Press the Call 'End' (Red Color) for 3-5 Seconds and it Disconnects GPRS.

Upgrade to WM6 successful but PDA has slowed down.....

I was over the moon when I heard I could load WM6 on my TyTN....
my phone is now slower than it was before.......why would this be?
battled to get active sync working again. MS Active Sync 4.5 installed Outlook 2002 but it has not serial number....where do I get this from?
I was hoping they would release GPS software for this phone but it dont like it.... Anyone know if there is GPS software available? I know about the navigate software but that's the same as having a map book or street guide.
What has your experience been after upgrading your TyTN OS to WM6?
What are the new features in WM6? To me it still looks the same in terms of functionality.....
Bless u...
but u know almost every Tytn got slower when upgraded to WM6(it's not real WM Version6 but a Second Edition of WM5). According to a developer of Microsoft in Asia Research Center, WM5SE has a memory limit which only allows 32 process in a row therefore we can see WM5SE(the so called WM6) cannot handle memory well.
That's the reason why Tytn got slower...
can i downgrade to WM5 again?
sure
downgrades are don like upgrades...
Is there any GPS software available for the HTC?
where would I get WM5 from? HTC site or google?
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Is there any GPS software available for the HTC?
where would I get WM5 from? HTC site or google?
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HTC site is a better choice...
bradlesliect said:
I was over the moon when I heard I could load WM6 on my TyTN....
my phone is now slower than it was before.......why would this be?
battled to get active sync working again. MS Active Sync 4.5 installed Outlook 2002 but it has not serial number....where do I get this from?
I was hoping they would release GPS software for this phone but it dont like it.... Anyone know if there is GPS software available? I know about the navigate software but that's the same as having a map book or street guide.
What has your experience been after upgrading your TyTN OS to WM6?
What are the new features in WM6? To me it still looks the same in terms of functionality.....
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Not sure why your upgrade seems slower, but my upgrade from the official WM6 upgrade from the HTC site went smooth as butter and everything seems faster for me. I've also noticed that it boots up a bit faster and I don't get errors from Xpress mail upon boot ups. The only thing I did notice was that it used up a bit more memory than WM5. My bluetooth head piece connects faster/better, I don't have to soft reset nearly as often as I did with Wm5 either. The messaging program has a few new features that I like too. I actually like my Tytn now. Unfortunately, Youtube still doesn't work out of the box and requires the flash bundle upgrade and that other video player TMCMP or what ever its called.
I use SPB Mobile Shell and SPB Pocket Plus and they work flawlessly with WM6. Overall, this was the best thing to happen since I got this phone in August.
Itsdarts said:
Not sure why your upgrade seems slower, but my upgrade from the official WM6 upgrade from the HTC site went smooth as butter and everything seems faster for me. I've also noticed that it boots up a bit faster and I don't get errors from Xpress mail upon boot ups. The only thing I did notice was that it used up a bit more memory than WM5. My bluetooth head piece connects faster/better, I don't have to soft reset nearly as often as I did with Wm5 either. The messaging program has a few new features that I like too. I actually like my Tytn now. Unfortunately, Youtube still doesn't work out of the box and requires the flash bundle upgrade and that other video player TMCMP or what ever its called.
I use SPB Mobile Shell and SPB Pocket Plus and they work flawlessly with WM6. Overall, this was the best thing to happen since I got this phone in August.
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Hi,
Clearly either I have done something wrong, or there is something wrong with the phone. Is there a particular order in which this upgrade should be done?
My PDA is slow opening applications and I am battling with Active Sync 4.5
It displays an error each time and I dont know what it means. I have tried to google the error but cannot pick up anything.
I want to downgrade to WM5. Where can I download it from? I only find the SDK version of WM5. Any ideas where I can get WM5 from. I dont see it on HTC website either
Any help will do.
Thanks
I'd begin by reading Mr. Vanx's downgrade guide
You can use some registry tweaks/settings to improve responsiveness of your device if your flash goes ok. Official release ROMs are slower than cooked ROMs - so your choice also matters. For me the performance of WM6 has always been superior in comparison to WM5.

Active Sync with Rom 6.1

I can't get Active Sync to recognize my phone. What needs to be done?
Are you using Vista ? In that case you need to update the sync center.
no i'm still with XP
ok after like all night i somehow got it to work, doesnt ask how (it was late in the morning)
Now how to get the symbols to work and im done
Install the cabs in this thread and your symbols will work...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375768
the problem i'm having with active sync and 6.1 is that it starts on the phone (in the background) automatically. and it won't die either. you kill it... and it's back a short time later (even if you haven't connected to your computer).
not a biggie i guess. i tried the fix (where you create an exchange server and then adjust the active sync settings on the phone) but it didn't seem to change anything.
anyway... i have no idea if there's a fix, but at the very least am currious to know if anyone else is having the same issue.
this isn't an install fluke either (though it could be a fluke with my phone specifically) as i had the problem on multiple installs of the rom and w/ multiple 6.1 roms (both the 07 and 08 versions).
NRGZ28 said:
Install the cabs in this thread and your symbols will work...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375768
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I thought i had done that...seems like i had to do it again to "kick" in TY

New XDA Zest firmware

There's a new Zest firmware available for download from http://www.my-xda.com/. The filename is Xda_Zest Firmware Update_V7.7.0S.WWE20.00_M4.6.5.P7_V2.1.4 GBR20, which seems to be updates to most of the roms inside the zest. It's installing at the moment, and the upgrade interface on the phone is displaying "GalaxyMini5 Eboot (3.33.0). Since this appears to be a codename for the P565, I guess this is more evidence that the XDA Zest is simply an underclocked P565 and more evidence that P565 firmware may well work on it.
Warning, this firmware does not appear to contain the O2 menu software, or the free GPS software that comes with the phone (although maybe the latter can be re-installed from the SD card). Shame - I rather liked the O2 menu interface.
what improvements does it have? Is it actually worth upgrading?
Thanks.
The only things I can see that I don't remember seeing before are a couple of new or updated control panel entries. Video calling is probably the really important one.
You seem to lose the RSS reader, the O2 auto settings, the O2 menu and the GPS s/w (although the latter was only a demo). I have no idea if using the SD card that came with the Zest will restore these, as I don't have it. (If the software is all on there somewhere, and someone could bung me a copy, I'd be really grateful.)
It does make me wonder how the P565 firmware compares. I understand it has a nice touch interface on it.
It seems odd that the new firmware would remove all the o2 specific bits. Great if you want to use it on another network I suppose, but I quite like the mobile shell or o2 menu.
The satnav software isn't on the sd card - only the maps.
The instructions say:
Please note that if you already have CoPilot satellite navigation software on your Xda, refer to the Xda Zest user manual before upgrading your device software.
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I couldn't see anything of significance in the user manual.
Interesting. I actually have Tomtom for GPS on a different SD card, which is related to the reason I don't have the original SD card. Tomtom autoinstalls from the SD card, so I thought it might be that the O2 software installed itself from the SD card provided by O2. I guess that if it's only maps on the SD card then that's not the case, and the new firmware does strip out all the O2 extras, which seems like a peculiar decision to say the least.
Still, it did get me to try the new SPB mobile shell 3, which is what the O2 menu is based on, but nicer. I'm trying to decide whether it's worth the $35 for just a flashy finger driven interface. The weird thing is, it actually might be.
I'm actually going to upgrade my firmware to new one which is currently available in O2 site. What I want to know is if upgrade mine to the latest what would be the changes I may seen... Is it worth upgrading by loosing all the software?
So far I've seen nothing to write home about. The only reason might be if you can't already make video calls and want to do so. (I never make them, so I have no idea whether or not they're supported in the original firmware.)
I just upgraded mine to new firm ware. It worked fine for me. I didn't lose any O2 extras inc O2 menu. It was Oki but haven't tried yet to make video calls.. I will install iGO8 and will uninstall the co-pilot.
SPB Mobile shell 3.0 Rocks working smoothly with my Omnia and Xda Zest
I've just updated, and I didn't lose any O2 extras either (including Copilot). I backed up the Program Files\Copilot folder on the device to my PC before updating, and copied it back over after the update and voila, I've still got my fully activated version of Copilot. It did still prompt for allowing it to connect to the net during the 14-day trial the first time I ran it, but the license screen confirms it's the full version.
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I have a working theory that the autorun on my Tomtom SD card might have run in preference to some autorun that might otherwise have run the first time the OS booted. I could test this by re-installing the firmware, but it's kind of a pain to have to put all the data on again.
Having played around some more and browsed the Extended ROM on my device, this does appear to be what happened, as all the CAB files are present. Fortunately this is a bonus for me, since I'm not on O2, and most of these files are useless to me, and I can therefore just pick and choose the apps I'd like to install.
This might be useful to other Zest users - the hack to make the Extended ROM visible:
Use your favourite Registry Editor to make HKLM\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ONDisk2\FATFS\MountHidden set to 0 (default is 1)
You can then browse to \ASUS_ROM\ in Total Commander to view your Extended ROM partition. The ROM does not appear to be write protected, so you can now put all the packages *you* want re-installed on a hard reset in there. Neat.
I contacted O2 support about this issue, and they replied saying that:
On occasions the O2 menu can drop off after a ROM upgrade, but this would usually be resolve by either hard resetting or running the upgrade again. The o2 menu is still installed on the new ROM.
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I have now done this upgrade and have retained the 02 menu. The radio reception seems a bit better as I now get HSDPA at home, which I didn't previously, so the radio upgrade seems to be worth it.
ringer
ive got the zest and am happy with it so far apart from the last 2 days i cannot hear it when i get a call everything else works ie.system sounds,core player etc but the actual phone wont ring it just vibrates ive reset it a million times and checked system settings etc but nothing so if anyone has any ideas i would be very grateful, also how do you know if you are getting hdspa or not is there a setting for it or something, cheers guys.
The connectivity icon at the top right of the screen shows what communication protocol is being used by showing a symbol (usually just a single letter) in a solid square. The letters I have seen so far are:
G - GPRS (2G)
E - EDGE
3G - 3G (this is the odd one out with the two letters squashed together)
H - HSDPA
It's worth mentioning that on my train ride home I see all four protocols at different points, and the hand-off between them is very smooth.
thanks for quick reply i will keep an eye on it, still no joy with my ringer though its very strange. never had a problem like it on my orbit. i will keep investigating ,also do you know if anyone will be coming up with a rom for zest as i miss manila 2d although mobile shell v3 is good.
Have you checked:
Start->Settings->Sounds & Notifications
On the Notifications tab you can select the "Ring type", one possible choice of which is "Vibrate", which will make the phone only vibrate on incoming calls. Just guessing.
yes ive tried all that it might be affected by software ive installed recently i will try unistalling them one by one and see if that helps, failing that il do a hard reset i guess, anyone know how to hard reset the zest? thanks for your help.
There is a contortional key sequence for this, but you can also reset it by going to:
Start->Settings->System Tab->Default Settings
cheers managed to sort it , i installed mini lyrics software and ticked all in associating files which for some reason stopped the phone from ringing
thanks for your help.
Failure of firmware upgrade
Ive just had a power failure whilst upgrading the firmware on my new xda Zest and all it it shows when turning on is "OS Update failed! Please update again". Is there anything i can about this or will it need to be returned to O2. Any suggestions. thanx

New T-Mobile WM 6.5 COMPLETE FAIL (or may be not?)

IDK why, but since I have installed the new ROM released by T-Mobile, my phone is nothing but trouble. My text messages are really slow. Once I click the "All Messages" tab and I click on a conversation it needs 10 seconds to load it. Then if I try to go back, the phone freezes and the only way to unfreeze it is to soft reset it.
Then the Wi-Fi sharing doesnt work. I installed it but there is no trace of it in the whole phone.
The phone it self is slow. After a reset needs few mins (up to 10) to load that little quick menu that is located on the top right corner of the screen. No matter what I want to do it needs a sh*t load of time to do it.
It annoys the f*ck out of me, does someone else have the same problems with this ROM?
I apologize for the swears but I am really annoyed by this THING and I want to go back to the stock 6.1 or a cooked ROM.
BTW when I tried to download the HARDSPL from the forum, my anti-virus told me that there is a trojan in it.
P.S. I just saw that it doesnt show me the notification for new SMS, also I have the annoying (1) on the SMS icon in the HTC Sence. I know I can fix it with the fix that is given in the forum, im just saying... Is that a bug that should still be there? I am disappointed with WM, the 6.5 has more problems than the 6.1...
I've noticed when upgrading to vzw 6.5 my phone was slow too. I stuck with it for a couple days and gave up all hope. I'm now on MightyRom and occasionally load up SPB mobile shell. Mobile shell requires more frequent restarts (every other day). The mightyrom is mad stable and hasn't given me problems (you can't use mightyrom it is cdma only, I suggest pheonix or valkryie for you).
HardSPL is not a trojan if you download it from this site or ppc geeks, no need to worry on that end (i'm running business class vipre and malwarebytes professional).
I was running McAfee.
Can you give me a link for the HardSPL? Ill be looking for a cooked rom, but that will be when I am home. Anyway, Ill have another post in this topic soon, since I just did a hard reset and I want to see if it gives me the same problems, but so far is still slow and I don't give it much hope...
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I was running McAfee.
Can you give me a link for the HardSPL? Ill be looking for a cooked rom, but that will be when I am home. Anyway, Ill have another post in this topic soon, since I just did a hard reset and I want to see if it gives me the same problems, but so far is still slow and I don't give it much hope...
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you should install nopushinternet and ssk dynamic resource proxy cabs, those will help out immensely with some of that device lag. ( http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1295157&postcount=2 )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=232414&d=1254156455
Personally I don't like McAfee or any of those bundled suites that dell/hp/gateway/etc include. Kaspersky, Vipre, ESET, BitDefender are all better IMO.
Downloaded it. It showed improovement right away just like you said.
Also downloaded HardSPL, McAfee shows no trojans. I will look for the ROMs you recomended and ill get back to the topic soon.
I'm not getting the same problems with the 6.5 update. It might be the other programs that you're running in addition to the update. I don't get the Quick Menu delay. Wifi sharing has been working.
Hard-SPL has NO trojans! This has to do with how they packed the file. For some reason, security programs have issues with it. Just completely disable all your security for a little bit and install it, no trojan.
I have no problems with my 6.5 update. Maybe you should try hard reseting your phone or flashing the software again.
Seeing as it has been way over a month since this was released and beyond your load voice, there have been few if any complaints, I'm doubting this update was a complete fail. As such your topic heading is WRONG.
And tell us what steps you took in flashing the update, was it a success. How did you restore your data to the device? Is it possible that your restore of text messages corrupted the device somehow (faulty backup/restore software?).
Again, I would hard reset/reflash the device. Load no software or backups and see how your text messages are.
I upgraded to Tmo 6.5 the night I got my phone, so I can't comment on the 15 mins I used 6.1 for. But all I know is that after 6.5 it was like getting the phone all over again. Everything worked perfectly, then I started getting stuff off these forums. While 98% of all the cabs and apps work great, and work flawlessly on the system, there's been a handful that haven't. I've down the "Clear Storage" 5 times since yesterday b/c I think I have finally developed a plan..
All I can say is that the swype 3.9 keyboard totally killed my phone, had to do sys restore for that (twice b/c I thought it was something else before I read that thread) I've tried all the WiFi Sharing cabs, and the only one that works is AssasinsLament 'slotted' cabs. Just chose any number of those and it will show up in your start menu, however, never your CommManager. SoftKey manager doesn't work (or anything to change the softkeys b/c TF3d overrides it no matter what)
Why would I want no-push-internet? I always want my phone to be connected, or am I missing something? I don't use exchange, and its off in my CommMgr, do I still need a cab??
but yeah, I don't think this rom is FAIL, if anything, I hope they release 6.5.3 w/ Sense 2.5 if they aren't going to give us our WPS7..that would be nice. But yeah, back to my plan, I never want to use a cooked ROM, not that I don't trust anyone, but its just damn scary and don't want to miss out on any stock features, so I just created a directory on my PC HDD called "Good Roms" once I determine which work the best, they will be there, I'll do one final Clear Storage and get it rocking!
I actually agree with him. tmo 6.5 update felt like the device was running through mud. everything was slow, scrolling, loading programs etc. the memory usage was too high as well; why anyone would want 66% of their resources dedicated to running eye candy is beyond me. the speed was fixed, for me, by installing cell pro and or cell evo roms. that guys roms are insane stable and fast. however the problem, again, was the memory usage which is a symptom of sense 2.1 or higher (dont get me started on sense 2.5). his roms were awesome but running multiple programs almost became impossible. i could open opera 9.7 and maybe one other program in the background. if i tried more than that i ran into memory issues. i like having my most commonly used programs loaded and ready to go. couldnt do that with any sense 2.1 roms. when I reverted back to stock 6.1 tf3d 2.1 every thing was fixed: speed and memory. now i can have opera open in the background (usually 4-5 tabs open) mylifeorganized, pocket informant, pocket player, newsbreak, email, pocket quicken, and excel. even with all that open in the background I am around 65% memory consumed, a full 1% less than sense 2.1 allows by itself.
what would be nice is wm 6.5 or 6.5.x with tf3d. small footprint interface and a userfriendly os.
I have to agree with the OP. I did the 6.5 update and immediately regretted it. Thank goodness cdguider posted a 6.1 for back up!!
Programs that worked well in 6.1 became glitchy in 6.5. It was slower than molasses, and I dropped calls and missed text messages.
As with ALL roms, it is a matter of personal taste. I went back to 6.1 and have been a happy camper. For me it seems to be the more stable and reliable rom...and I tried MANY, stock and cooked. 6.1 just works better with the applications that I NEED. I like the eye candy of 6.5, but eye candy isn't worth it if it doesn't run the way I need it to.
I had a Wizard for many years and was a rom flashing fiend. While I have tried many cooked roms here, the stock 6.1 seems to be the best fit. This is not a fault of the great Rhodium chefs, but rather, I believe, fault with WinMo/Manilla/Sense and whatever else is frankenstein'd into 6.5 roms.
same here. 6.5 has been a disaster from day one. i am going back to 6.1 .i soft reset 10+ times a day just so my phone does not grind to a hault. gwes.exe is a system program and is the problem, its just no one can fix it
I did do the flash correctly. I did it exactly as the tmo web site said. Also, I have done hard reset and I have done the flash again... no help. Now im running fireSTORM_LEO-v6 WWE, and my phone is a whole new thing. No lag, no freezing. Of course there are some things I dont like about this ROM but its all cosmetic, and im sure there are cabs out there that can help. Also, somebody said that it might be the programs I am running or the text messages and data that I have on the phone. No it is not that because the phone was giving me problems even before I restored the data on the phone.
Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts. I will rename the topic since its obviously not a complete fail.

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