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I'm asking because, I've used a couple and they all seem to drop after a while of use, requiring you to soft reset eventually. Didn't notice this problem in WM5. My wifes MDA has 25Megs of available program memory at any given moment, and she never resets her device or uses hybernate or clears cache mem unless I do it (and yes, she uses quite a few programs daily). My device starts out at 25Megs and then slowly drops down to about 20, then after a couple more days, down to about 17Megs (that's the lowest I've gotten before I reset). And when it drops this low, I use Clear Tem to clean the cache and other temp folders. And I use Hybernate and I still can't get the memory back up to 20Megs. So is this just WM6 or could it be the ROM I'm using?
I'm currently running Meschle's O2 Premium ROM (which is great BTW). This ROM is much better on memory than some previous ROMs I've used but it does drop down like I mentioned above. Didn't bother me until the other day when I was trying to get some pics of some friends for my picture caller ID. The camera would not open because memory was too low. I had to soft reset. It was quite embarrasing. May have just been a fluke but just wondering. Anyone else notice this?
BTW I do not have the TF Cube installed and only the default contacts manager.
Other programs installed besides what's in the O2 Premium ROM:
Opera Mobile
iSilo (document reader)
Oxford Spanish Dictionary
Conjegator prog
TomTom Nav 6
Used HTC Home page editor to change appearance and icons on home page but I removed the program after changes made
Hmm, haven't noticed this fenomenon.. gues i never had same rom for more that 3 days..
kakainis said:
Hmm, haven't noticed this fenomenon.. gues i never had same rom for more that 3 days..
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I'm thinking it has something to do with HTC Home. I know what you mean about being a ROM junkie. However, I'm trying to find one and perfect it. Currently, Meshle's ROM is the closest I've come.
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I'm thinking it has something to do with HTC Home. I know what you mean about being a ROM junkie. However, I'm trying to find one and perfect it. Currently, Meshle's ROM is the closest I've come.
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I have faced this in most of the ROM's I have flashed...be it B&B or Meschle's or Fracoons or even NikMel's....
I think its something inherrent in WM6....I can say that as I used it in NikMel's and that does'nt have HTC Home and the same problem was there too...
It is typically this issue that makes be jump from one ROM to another - but they all end up the same - no matter how fast you make it by removing items or cleaning the ROM....guess you have to live with it...
devdarshan said:
I have faced this in most of the ROM's I have flashed...be it B&B or Meschle's or Fracoons or even NikMel's....
I think its something inherrent in WM6....I can say that as I used it in NikMel's and that does'nt have HTC Home and the same problem was there too...
It is typically this issue that makes be jump from one ROM to another - but they all end up the same - no matter how fast you make it by removing items or cleaning the ROM....guess you have to live with it...
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OK. I know I'm not alone then.
Not, You aren't alone.
I have tried with all ROM posted here and have the same problem. I have made an own ROM based on original WWE and the same thing.
On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
At the end, soft reset.
natxocc said:
Not, You aren't alone.
I have tried with all ROM posted here and have the same problem. I have made an own ROM based on original WWE and the same thing.
On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
At the end, soft reset.
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Same here!
A daily soft reset restores the initial amount of "program memory". I think it's a WM6 issue too (memory leak somewhere?).
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On WM5 this did happen
Hi,
natxocc said:
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On WM5 this don't happens. It's not the HTC Home plugin, as my own rom is a clean ROM without anyting, and the memory goes down with the pass of the days. My friend with another Artemis P3300 have the same problems.
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On WM5 this did happen for some people (including me) and after months, this issue was finally solved.
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
I have just upgraded my ROM to WM6 vanilla 2 hours ago and I am a bit worry about this as I do not want to experience the issue in WM6 again. For now, it has not happened.
Is this thread related to this WM5 issue ?
If this is related, is this possible to have the WM5 fix ported to WM6 ?
Cheers
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Hi,
On WM5 this did happen for some people (including me) and after months, this issue was finally solved.
http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300
I have just upgraded my ROM to WM6 vanilla 2 hours ago and I am a bit worry about this as I do not want to experience the issue in WM6 again. For now, it has not happened.
Is this thread related to this WM5 issue ?
If this is related, is this possible to have the WM5 fix ported to WM6 ?
Cheers
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I have been using Meschle's Vanilla for last one week - no issues so far - even the leak is there but not that extensive...I start of with 26.75MB upon softreset and after d aday of using most of the apps incl. calls, tomtom, activesync - I have never really gone down below 20MB - but I do make it a point to use the Oxios closeApp and Hibernate as often as I can...
I reset once in maybe 3-4 days that too if I feel there is a drag...battery life is superb...no complaints whatsoever...
Have no reason to switch ROM's anymore untill I see something that really fancies me...or a RADIO/OS or build upgrade...
Hi everyone!
I own a HTC P3300 and I used B&B 3.7 for a while but I upgraded to the official HTC WM 6 ROM a few days ago. It's sooo slow. I understand that Tom's ROM is a little bit optimized but it can't be that slow with the official ROM.
There are 1000+ files in my Windows folder, is it normal?
Thank you for your help!
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Hi everyone!
I own a HTC P3300 and I used B&B 3.7 for a while but I upgraded to the official HTC WM 6 ROM a few days ago. It's sooo slow. I understand that Tom's ROM is a little bit optimized but it can't be that slow with the official ROM.
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I noticed a significant speed boost from the official WM5 ROM to Tom's WM6 ROMS. Since WM6 is per se more resource hungry than WM5 (especially if you use the Office applications), I can understand that the official WM6 ROM must be quite slow. Besides, the official ROM has less available program RAM, so it can run less apps at a time before getting very sluggish.
I haven't tested it though, so I don't know how slow it should be. When you say it is slow, just how slow do you mean? and how much free program RAM do you have?
There are 1000+ files in my Windows folder, is it normal?
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Yes, sadly.
See the attachment for the memory usage (screenshot made just after a soft reset).
For instance, after a soft reset, I need to wait 3 to 5 seconds between the time I tap the screen (on the start menu, on parameters, on the system tab, ...) and the time it moves/appears.
It's fast just after, but it seems that apps must be in RAM to be quick...
It wasn't that way with B&B!
Yeah I tried the official release also, but I changed it back to a cooked rom very quickly
Once you get used to the speed of the cooked rom, you can't go back.
The great cooks take out all the unnessecary stuff, they change also the page pool, no extended rom installations, newer builds etc, etc... That's why you get more ram and more speed.
My advice is try Meschle's Vanilla 2.0. You will be amazed!
Hi all
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EDIT: 2/11/2007
I appear to have found a solution to the 'long time to come back out of standby' issue:
i had a bit of a brianwave when I was learning about pagepools and decided to investigate WHY it was only Schaps' rom that took such a noticeable time to come out of standby whereas other roms such as VP3G's and shamanix's were pretty quick.
Initially i put it down to rubbish handset.lol. but then decided no. that isnt the xda way!
so, i downloaded 4 different ROMs, VP3G's, Shamanix, AustinSync and of course Schaps'. I was determined to get Schaps' working as his rom is most suited to my needs!
so, upon opening each of the roms using the pagepool change tool, i realised Schap's had a 4mb PP whereas others had 6mb
so, i thought, lets see what happens if we change the pagepool, so i did. and it seems to have worked. it still takes a short time to come out (i mean not instantaneous like on the wizard) but a LOT less than the Schaps with 4mb PP.
so, i ask ye fellow users to try changing the pagepool.
the tool i found was on these very forums at the following thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269&highlight=pagepool+change
and there it is!
so please, try it!
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I've been trying out schaps' various roms and i've realised it seems to take a while for the handset to come out of standby (i use the standby function a LOT) and sometimes you even have to press the power button twice!
is it just me that is experiencing this?
please dont get me wrong, ALL of schaps' roms that i have tried have been near enough perfect asides from this single issue. all the other roms i have tried despite coming out of standy instantaneously, they have other issues. issues which schaps dont have!
i just hope we can solve this slight issue!
w/thanks
duke.
Same here
I have ROM 3.54c from Schaps and I have the same problem... I find it VERY frustrating!!!
I was hoping that this would be fixed in version 4...
Good thread Duke_stix, I hope someone out there has the answer to our problem!
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I haven't really noticed it yet really but its something that I have experienced on all the roms I try on occasion.
i use 3.60a
and it has a 1second lag before it comes out of standby. havent tried any other rom
Try VP3G's latest.... you would not be disappointed...Schap codes great ROMs, however when they are done and out of bugs.. but till then if you use your phone daily like most people do, then testing is not for you.
im not testing!
if you read my first post, i LOVE schaps' roms! the ONLY issue that i have found is the 'wakeup' bug, otherwise more or less perfect. with other roms, including VP3G's there are other slight problems like some today plugins missing, namely the wireless one, which i know there are alternatives and it can be downloaded and installed but id prefer it in rom from beginning!
there has GOT to be a way to fix this! perhaps a registry setting
schaps, if your reading this, please help!
U may have better luck posting this on the original schaps v4.0 thread!
Not a rom specific thing...
It's a Hermes specific thing.
The Hermes has always had problems coming out of stand by. Every rom I've used has had these lags. And yeah, some times I have to press the power button twice as well.
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U may have better luck posting this on the original schaps v4.0 thread!
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i would and i have but in the last few hours ive had more responses concerning this issue than i have since posting in that thread a day or two ago!
Help wanted
This is a very important topic...
Because of this issue, my 8525 seems slower than the old 8125... Kind of annoying for a processor twice as fast...
Please... Anyone... Any clue????
This lag varies depending on what you have installed and whats running. When i boot my device in safe mode using spb pocket + the lag is basicly gone. So just free up some ram and put only the apps that need to be on device memory on the device memory, other non crucial apps should be put on starage device.
Not a memory issue
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This lag varies depending on what you have installed and whats running. When i boot my device in safe mode using spb pocket + the lag is basicly gone. So just free up some ram and put only the apps that need to be on device memory on the device memory, other non crucial apps should be put on starage device.
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I highly doubt that it is a memory issue since this happens on cold boots as well.
Moreover my Hermes currently has 22.8Mb free for storage and 19.7Mb for Program... Isn't this plenty?
ATI ImageON
Actually, isn't it what the ATI ImageON driver is supposed to fix?
Relating to all of this,, I wonder if the new Tytn 11 (Kaiser)with all its memory , experiences that same power/standby problem ? If the answer is yes, then either the problem (whatever it was) was solved, and we must learn what they have done differently in hardware or system. If they haven't fixed or improved immensely in the Kaiser, then someone out there (HTC) never have seen it as a major problem.. I personally have almost always had a lag, either on cooked or official.
on Hermes but not on Wizard
Actually, this problem is inherent to the Hermes - The wizard (slower processor and older model) is much faster to come out of stand-by. Someone at HTC must have messed up pretty bad - or ATI bribbed them nicely.
Hi,
I'm using the 3.60 full at the moment and didn't experience that, even I do use that version for a week and never recall have that issue as well, may be is physical unit related since some of you also discover the same symptoms.
Just sharing hope you don't mine.
Cheers,
Naru
TOPSIDE!solution has been found
its true
GldRush98 said:
Not a rom specific thing...
It's a Hermes specific thing.
The Hermes has always had problems coming out of stand by. Every rom I've used has had these lags. And yeah, some times I have to press the power button twice as well.
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Yes thats is true its not a rom specific thing. I use the dopod original rom and still it takes that long and some times i do need to press it twice before getting it awake...
Minimo guilty?
I tried the 6Mb pagepool trick on Schap's 4 ROM and the delay seemed to have shortened. However, after installing and uninstalling Minimo, I noticed a significant slow down of mt TyTn... It seems that the delay is back...
Am I the only one in this case?
Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.
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Hello, I see a handful on 6.1 Roms in here. Short of loading each one of them. Which is more reliable or keeps on top of updates if needed?
Im Currently using the MRH. And I Dont know much kinda new in a way to upgrading my phone. But It just seems like there is alot missing with this rom.
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u have to load each because each user here may have a different experience with each because for me one rom maybe perfect next person may crash left and right and so on so only way to know is trying each like i like pvh 19400 although am now trying pvh19900
To a fellow OK State alumn, I have tested at least a dozen different 6.1 ROMS and this one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376223
has been the cleanest, fastest, and most stable one for me. Just add the applications you want.
Much thanks! Yea thats the one i was toying around with. There are so many apps out there. I dont know where to start. and which ones would tailor towards my use.
i downloaded and tried them all,
Quite happy with the one ive got now, many have loads of apps but you start to loose available RAM when that happens.
best just to try a few and see which one best suits what you want to do, suggestion though is to keep your PIM and other things backed up incase you need to do a hard reset in the event of a freeze
Just keep on this forum as often as you can. It took me months to find out what I wanted and what worked. Just be patient and play around. It is more of a hobby to me than anything.
less questions and read read read the thread posts!! try a few with features u like! all the cooks have great roms if u know how to use them....
Best ROM
I have install and test almost all the WM 6.1 ROMS.
Like the other guys say you really have to test out a ROM as you might like some features over others.
In my time i have found the following:
TNT ROM WM6.1 to be the best all rounder - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376945
Only thing i don't like about it is the startup speed. Every with the animation disabled and the network auto config it still makes a good long while.
Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favourite ROM so far but does not come with many applications
im using pays rom 6.1, use it for a month now. stable and quite fast
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Blinky ROM WM 6.1 Super fast and really cool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=383751
My favorite ROM so far but does not come with many applications
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Its what I have and his review is spot on. Its very fast, probably the fastest I have ever used and incredibly fast startup time. It was missing many of the programs I like but thankfully I already had them on my storage card from playing with a Schaps Lite ROM a while back. I think my last changes will be a flashlight software like vjcandela and something better for BT transfers but all in all this is a great ROM and will definitely keep me happy until the next Schaps is released.
I like PDAViet build 19900... It is SOOOOOOOOO fast and had a remarkable 28Mb of ram left after installing it with almost 70Mb storage memory. Now down to about 25MB ram and 45Mb storage as I've put a heap of 3rd party apps on...Cheers...
the last Binky 6.1 WM 3.5 is a great slim one and you have the possibility to install your own apps after flashing
but guys, I can't beam files using the f***ing IR port... anyidea about it?
hi all, if im right then my warrenty on my TP2 finishes in september.
So what im looking to do is stick a new cooked rom on there.
im pi55ed off with my phone because its sooo slow and it keeps failing on me but i dont want to get rid of it really because 99% of my friends either have crackberrys or ipoones and i want to be different.
i am a complete n00b with all the techy stuff like tweeking the phone.
I have a few questions for people with cooked roms
1 - what sort of memory does your rom run at?
2 - how long does your battery last and on what type of usage?
3 - do you need to keep doing soft re-sets?
4 - is your new rom quick and reliable?
5 - are all the features quick and realiable such as bluetooth?
i think thats it for now, i will start looking into the roms more from now on so i can hopefully just do it once and do it right the first time.
however if there are any chefs in london who are willing to build me a complete custom rom then PM me and we will discuss it further about the rom and pricing for your time ect...
THANKS in advance!!
1. The memory of some chef's ROMs can run as low as 40% on startup, moving up to about 50-60%. It depends. Look for the "lite" or "clean" ROMs for better memory.
2. The battery lasts me all day, heavy use through texting, phone calls, and internet. Using GPS, I'd imagine your battery would die fast, and phone calls don't seem to last longer than 3 hours before needing to be recharged.
3. Sadly, soft resets are needed for almost every WinMo device. That's the downside of all WinMo devices, though on the plus side, you get infinite customizability.
4. One of the most reliable ROMs with the most features is Valkyrie's ROM by Agent_47. I'm honestly no fanboy, but I have tried everyone else's ROMs, normal version, not lite or clean, and they all lack, or are crippled.
5. I don't use bluetooth, but wifi, phone signal, and GPS signal depend really on what radio you use. The different radios can be found in the ROM section. I use the most current one, .77, and I get good strength on all of the above.
thanks for the info, heres a bit more about my phone and its uage atm...
on the stock rom im using with using cleanram my phone runs around 60% - 70% but startup is just over 40%
Also i found my battery lasted 2 days when i had a 2gb card and now just over a day if im lucky with the 8gb card, so i may change it for a 4gb card which should be enough space for me.
Well, some clean and lite ROMs have as much as 80 MB free at start up (meaning, I believe that you would only have 20% on startup; any members can correct me if I'm wrong). I have only had 40% at most at startup, because I use feature packed ROMs.
I don't know anything about the SD card using more phone power, but you can give the 4 GB card a try. I get over 2 days on minimum usage with an 8 GB SD card. With max usage, as I said, I get about a full days use, with around 40-50% of battery life left.
also if anyone is local to me and wouldnt mind letting me have a quick play with there tp2 with a cooked rom to see how different it is to stock then please PM me
i went into a vodafone store today to double check about my warrenty, but after the 12 months manufacturer warrenty is over then vodafone have their own warrenty to cover the phone untill my contract is over.
now i know this im unsure if i should flash my rom now incase i do have anymore problems with the phone ??
what do you all suggest?
Just do the flash and get it over with You only have ONE first flash and then after that everything wont be as stressfull..
Also.. if you want to see what custom roms look like running on the phone just search for some custom roms on youtube. I'm sure you'll see some there. You'd get a more thurough view of what they do then if you were just bumbling around with it for 5 minutes on your own.
fair enough, i need to get my compuuter working then i guess to flash it!!
when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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when tmo had a rom flash from wm 6.1 to 6.5, all i had to do was download the file...why are these roms on here implemented differently...???
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Because custom ROM's don't have the critical "signature" that can only come from the manufacturer or carriers themselves. The stock SPL won't allow ROM's that don't have that signature, so that's why you have to replace SPL with a custom one when you want to flash ROM's issued by anybody than the carriers or HTC.
Sorry for the threadjack... but i was wondering the same things as the topic starter...
May i just add a few more questions?
*Roms like Energy, do they support BT and GPS?
*Is the problem with the sms lag (phone not waking on receiving) solved by a cooked rom?
*What are the major drawbacks when switching for standard to cooked? Ok the waranty is cancelled but anymore?
*I have a WWE version with WM6.5 ==> can i only install rom for 6.5 or can i install roms based on 6.1?
*I've looked at radios and the compatiblitylist... does this mean i have to install the wwe radio to get my device working?
feel free to ask questions here about roms ans im interested in the answers too
also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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also the other week i saw a thread that had 2 cabs that make the TP2 run quicker and i had to get off of the laptop and now i cant find it. does anyone know what i mean if so can you help me locate the cabs.
Thanks
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
I recently flashed deepshining x7 rom and I can't believe I waited so long. My TP2 feels faster and I love all the options available such as Cookie's home tabe editor and the such. If you haven't already done so, I suggest you flash. You can always flash back to the original if you don't like it.
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I don't know about two cabs to make it run faster, but there's two that will help with the memory management and help keep more of it free for you, is that what you're thinking about? They're called the SSK Dynamic Resource Proxy cab and the no push internet cab.
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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I think those are the ones and i will search for them when i am on next time, thanks!!!
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Here they are, just wanted to make sure we were thinking of the same things
thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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thank you very much!! I wish this forum had a reputation thing like other forums
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You bet! And yeah, these are the first two cabs I recommend all new Rhodium owners run...I don't know if they'll clear up all your issues, but you should at least see a significant change in available RAM.
Ive just put them onto my phone and doing a soft reset!
Ive also changed to the windows today menu last night and its running a bit better with that!!