Hello
For last few weeks I experience very odd problem witch my clock and date in my Xda Orbit. Each time I change the battery (I use two batteries interchangeably) the clock and date reset to the factory defaults 12:00, 24 October 2006. However all other settings remain unchanged, I mean alarm, appointments etc.
I tried to perform hard reset but with no success.
I'm just wondering if there is any other battery which keeps clock and date alive.
Please if anyone have an idea or suggestion how to sort it out I would really appreciate.
Tahnks
RAfal
I just noticed that there is a post regarding the same problem. Sorry
Hi,
I don't have a solution for you. But I can recommend this tool:
SP Time Sync
http://www.spdialer.com/download/sptimesync23ce5_arm.zip
Have fun
Are you ever charging the battery whilst it is in the device? Or only separately in a battery only charger?
There is an internal battery, you can see it in the pictures in the Artemis Inside pdf file.
I have a feeling that battery is for the GPS unit's NVRAM to store almanac data and is not accessable to the rest of the device.
I think you will find this true in all artemis devices, could someone else try?
I have a feeling that the timekeeping is all in software and so when power is lost so is the time/date...
The device has flash-ram, why would you need a battery to keep the Almanac data?
I just took my battery off for 20 minutes and the clock was fine.
Sorry if I was wrong... I just assumed it would be nvram for the gps unit...
No need to say sorry chap, it is not a contest to say who is right or wrong or anything! I could be wrong, I really can not be sure.
Perhaps the OP should try charging his phone today to see!
Well I've also took the battery out and left it about 15 mins and it is 7 mins out of date...
If I leave it for an hour i think it will revert back to the factory date...
Orbit battery problem
One of my friend had the same clock resetting problem with his Orbit , he changed the internal battery to new one, it is working fine now.
Please try after changing the internal battery, it may solve the problem to you as well.
Does anyone know what type it is? A non-rechargeable button cell type thing?
mine does this aswell. it's annoying but it's easy to change back. if the battery is a non rechargable cell and if it can be changed for a chargeable one will the phone charge it?
Hi there all,
Seems that this post got some responses!
I posted up a few weeks ago about this issue (no responses though!) and then a few days later another poster did the same!
Now this post was put up and it seems as though it's 'common' but not widespread. Sounds asa though it is the internal battery thats causing the issue. I didn't know there was actually one inside but hey..!
Just off to a meeting now - will check back later and on subsequent days to this thread if theres any more things to try or fix etc...
cheers!
Dennis! West London UK!
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ROM Version: 1.60.00WWE
ROM Date: 12/03/03
RAIDO Version: 1.1.0..
Not sure why, but happens twice a Day now! :roll: :roll:
HARD REset!
Any advise would be helpfull....
Looks like we got nearly similar problems
a day back....the blue LED lite (but I'm not using any BT device) and I couldn't do anything....even soft reset nothing happened....open/reinstall the battery....haha...it hard resets by itself
Today, at nearly the same time, same thing happened. But I remembered to off the BT so that no one can bluejack me....so why did the blue LED lite...and nothing could be done?
I really dunno why, when it happened, the softwares were the same factory default (I had no time to install any software) and the baterry level was 60%..
Rom version 1.66WWE
Radio:1.08.00
Hope someone can help me......PLEASE
azbro how often does that hapen to your xda?
Mind you i have noticed the BT light come on..however the BT is turned off from the device! How odd :roll: :roll:
Help!......
my bluetooth led also blink 1 or 2 times sometimes when i turn it on
ahhh...but my blue tooth light flashes even when i dnt turn it on.. :shock:
Tweaks2K2
Hello guys..you need this super application to shut off those LED's for good, and thus saving power!
Many more tweaks in here too!
Enjoy! :lol:
A device that does a Hard reset by its self, unwanted, un-asked for, most allways has a problem with the battery or the connection to the battery.
This is true for a BA, have no prrof that it is also true for other devices.
leds use very very little power i renember buying a logitech mouse optical and the case wrapping had a red led to emulate the led in optical mice
that led was powered by 1 AA batt and lasted for ages
i doubt that people can measure much difference in batt life by turning off the green and even blue led
The Point
Listen here...negative comments are not welcome matey! LED'S can annoy people, so my FULL app helps eliminate this, and also many other tweaks enclosed in this fab app! Any minute power saving is always welcome! :x
I am here to help! :evil:
is there a new rule in the forum where one can not share info and opinions if some dont like that info / openions ?
if so then that rule passed without my knowledge
Get the Point!
Understand my point dude, and then we can go forward!
Try to reword your comments in future so they don't cause conflict, OK?
END! :!:
not sure which of my comments were hhmmm undiplomatic
dident even know it was your program or know the program in general
just talked about leds really
Hum let us have a look here,
Rudegar has 3165 posts.
engager has 3 posts.
Think Rudegar would have seen that new rule.
I for one fail to read any negative comments about your application.
There wasn't anything negative about his post at all.. Bad day?
A loose SIM card will cause an intermitent hard reset, adjust the rails that hold the SIM in place, worked for me!
Battery
Hi All,
Regarding this issue. This is my point of view. I myself have this problem too. Currently I am using XDA II with WM2005. I surpose the problem comes from the software part *maybe the battery meter reading error*..
When using the phone, when ever I reach 37%, the phone will auto off, or maybe it hard reset? I dunno as WM2005 got persistant memory. But I know the situtation is the same, Boot up, blue led, den keep resetting, unles you plug the POWER SUPPLY .. not power thru USB direct from computer.
I tried a test, and am sure its software problem. I put a new battery on test, the battery went to 25% and then same, it shuts off like the previous.
So, anyone have any idea where to get a software that maybe.. reset the battery meter?
Me too, I had upgrade the rom from 1.60 to 2.06, when ever the battery hit below 50%, it sometime turn off by itself or hardreset even I did not turn it on.
I downgrade it back to 1.60 rom and working fine now.
Re: Battery
RaNmA_ said:
Hi All,
Regarding this issue. This is my point of view. I myself have this problem too. Currently I am using XDA II with WM2005. I surpose the problem comes from the software part *maybe the battery meter reading error*..
When using the phone, when ever I reach 37%, the phone will auto off, or maybe it hard reset? I dunno as WM2005 got persistant memory. But I know the situtation is the same, Boot up, blue led, den keep resetting, unles you plug the POWER SUPPLY .. not power thru USB direct from computer.
I tried a test, and am sure its software problem. I put a new battery on test, the battery went to 25% and then same, it shuts off like the previous.
So, anyone have any idea where to get a software that maybe.. reset the battery meter?
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you dint say if you are using some batery program you can disable radio and use pda with radio off and find out if its not radio thats killing the batery at 25% and that remove bad sim conection also
there are also some sd cards that request power even when not in use so thats a test to
use a program to check the batery full charge it and test
i have two bateries for my xda 2 one last almost twice the other the stong one was made somewhere in japan and the weeker one in china that doesnt mean anything cos i could find the companies envolved only where they say made in .....
hope thats helpfull
Hi,
My Artemis is running Meschle's Touch 4.02 WWE for a long time now.
A couple of months ago it started to crash, apparently randomly. It started after I installed auto-hibernate, but this could be a coincidence.
What happens most of the time is that the screen is turning black (fades away), starting from the bottom. Sometimes it just gets stuck on the home or other window or it soft resets automatically. I also got twice a white screen that said: 'reset due to sudden power loss'. Soft resets sometimes work, sometimes it gets stuck on the boot screen. I did several hard-resets with no luck.
I am trying for a long time to figure out a pattern. Maybe it has to do with the radio consuming too much power? Upgraded to 03.21.90: same problem.
Last two crashes happened while trying to start Opera mini.
After a crash the clock is wrong (the time of the crash the clock stopped).
It seems to happen more often while charging.
I've changed the battery: it seemed to be better for a while (two weeks) but then it started again.
I've disabled everything, leaving only the phone (no data, no HTC home, ....) but still the phone crashes from time to time (sometimes every hour, sometimes every 5 mins, .....).
Battery status indicates some weird things too: after charging up to i.e. 35% then soft reset batt status indicated 58%...or batt status is 30% then 2 mins later status is 2%. The OMAP function is turned off, because sometimes while booting the cpu is stuck on a very low frequency (screen flickering, very slow boot, ...).
I've tried to flash with another rom (original HTC) but I get: 'update utility not for this device' or something similar. I've tried several RUU's en always USPL.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
I have exactly the same problem. Think solved from 2 days. Changed the SD card i have 2 one 2 gigs and one 1 gigs the problem was with the 2 gigs card. Try to backup your data and format the card.
bobybravo said:
I have exactly the same problem. Think solved from 2 days. Changed the SD card i have 2 one 2 gigs and one 1 gigs the problem was with the 2 gigs card. Try to backup your data and format the card.
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Thx, I'll try that. However, even when the sd card is removed the crashes occur.
Just had another crash....connected via usb to my pc: after 5 secs screen faded to black. I had to soft reset. After that some 'invisible window' was blocking the start menu. Closed it (via the close button top right) and got the start menu again. Re-connected to usb and is ok until now....
I also see 173mA of drain.
I had the same problem.............and i change back to the original swedish wm6 rom and it was better for a couple of days, then got worse started to freze fade out until one day it "died" now i can only get into bootloader but cant boot any roms not the original swedish rom (wm6) or any other rom, in boot loader it only says IPL 3.13.0001 SPL 3.13.0001 no gsm or other stuff but when conected to USB it says usb, I tried the SD flash to but no good so my sugestion it that u see to that ur device is "open spl" if it take the same route that mine did.
(i change to a brand new battery when the problem where starting but taht didnt help.....)
I guess now as i understand it my only hope is to find the original shiped rom wm 5 swedish rom?! and try if that will flash onto my device.
i hope u dont get the same problem as me.
Only problems, no solutions...
Mine (p3300; Black&Blue v5) got a new Battery, new SD-Card. Did´nt help. I removed the SD, removed SIM, loaded the battery, then turned it on again and from now on it´s sometimes booting, sometimes not. If it´s booted up (after long time lying with removed battery) it doesn´t live long enough to flash it with another (old) rom.
Now it´s lying next to me, with all this expensive accesoires, doesn´t talk to me and say what the problem is. My Provider called me and asked if I want a new one.
Again HTC? I love the functions of WM...
I have the same problem with my Dopod M700 (Love)
But mine doesn't freeze it just auto soft reset itself... i don't know whats going on... somebody please help.
Changing to different ROM doesn't solve the problems... put back the original factory ROM also doesn't help.
Here still the same problem.
I've upgraded the radio to 03.21.90: now WIFI isn't working anymore and the phone still 'crashes'. I'll change it to 03.18.90 and see what happens.
I've emptied the battery several times (until bootloader switches off) and recharged with the original AC adapter. Did a hard reset on battery 100%: problem remains.
There are several threads with the same problem. I didn't find an answer, exept maybe to replace the motherboard.
I really wonder if there's anyone who knows what is causing the problem.
It could be the graphics card (screen fading) or the battery/charge chip...no idea.
I've also noticed that when a crash occurs, it often takes some time until it boots again, as if the Artemis needs to 'cool down'.
System Crash
PeteNewt said:
Hi,
My Artemis is running Meschle's Touch 4.02 WWE for a long time now.
A couple of months ago it started to crash, apparently randomly. It started after I installed auto-hibernate, but this could be a coincidence.
What happens most of the time is that the screen is turning black (fades away), starting from the bottom. Sometimes it just gets stuck on the home or other window or it soft resets automatically. I also got twice a white screen that said: 'reset due to sudden power loss'. Soft resets sometimes work, sometimes it gets stuck on the boot screen. I did several hard-resets with no luck.
I am trying for a long time to figure out a pattern. Maybe it has to do with the radio consuming too much power? Upgraded to 03.21.90: same problem.
Last two crashes happened while trying to start Opera mini.
After a crash the clock is wrong (the time of the crash the clock stopped).
It seems to happen more often while charging.
I've changed the battery: it seemed to be better for a while (two weeks) but then it started again.
I've disabled everything, leaving only the phone (no data, no HTC home, ....) but still the phone crashes from time to time (sometimes every hour, sometimes every 5 mins, .....).
Battery status indicates some weird things too: after charging up to i.e. 35% then soft reset batt status indicated 58%...or batt status is 30% then 2 mins later status is 2%. The OMAP function is turned off, because sometimes while booting the cpu is stuck on a very low frequency (screen flickering, very slow boot, ...).
I've tried to flash with another rom (original HTC) but I get: 'update utility not for this device' or something similar. I've tried several RUU's en always USPL.
Does any of this make sense to anyone? Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
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I'm having exactly the same problem which happened after I upgrade from Artemis love 32 to 33.
I have tried everything mentioned here, changed th Rom 5 times, went back to the Ship Rom, but the system keep on crashing.This is the second time this is happening to my Artemis. The solution at the first time was replacing the motherboard and nothing else, as it has worked fine after that.
I posted my problem in another thread here but no solution yet. Four days back and after I got enough with it, I took my Artemis to the HTC work shop and they told me that they couldn't find the reason for the crash, and the only way to solve the problem is to replace the motherboard which will cost me too much.
Strange it happens to several phones, and more or less in the same way.
I've changed my Rom to B&B 5.0 now. Still same problem.
Wifi isn't working at all anymore: tried several radio versions, none brings back the wifi. Is this the end of my Artemis?
Me 2
Jup it happened to mine too, I returned it to the shop and when they returned it they said that they had replaced something but they couldn't tell me what It worked for a couple of months but now the same problem so it's back at the shop again... (luckily i had 2 years of warranty) So i guess it's not really a software problem.
Maart84 said:
Jup it happened to mine too, I returned it to the shop and when they returned it they said that they had replaced something but they couldn't tell me what It worked for a couple of months but now the same problem so it's back at the shop again... (luckily i had 2 years of warranty) So i guess it's not really a software problem.
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I hope u really try to get them to awnser what they change this time and then u can tell us? who knows it might help to know that.
So...installed B&B 5.0 (thx Tom ).
I did several complete 'battery charging cycles'.
I formatted my SDHC card.
It seems to me that it crashes less now (only once yesterday, not yet today).
Wifi seems to be definitly gone.
It probably isn't SW-related, but why would it crash less now than before?
I think that the most probable cause would be the chip that handles the battery status.
Let's hope that the chip somehow got resetted with the charging cycles.
No luck....it crashed all the time yesterday.
It seems that it happens more often when it is in my pocket (temperature related?).
When it lies on the cupboard it seems that it stays ok...again very strange.
Also while charging the battery status was 48%. I removed the charger and the status jumped to 100% :s.
Does anyone know how much it costs to have the MB replaced?
MDA Compact III
Hi!
I had the same promlem with my MDA Compact III!
I think it's a hardware problem. I tried so many roms, original, and cooked too... change the battery, clean the motherboard, but didn't help.
I was nervous, take out the battery for 5sec then reinstall it and took it in the refrigerator (NOT IN THE FREEZER!!!) for about 10minutes!
The result: don't crash about 1 hour!
So i took it back for 1day. And now, it works 2weeks continously, with no crash.
But unfortunately the battery (also the new one) holds the charge only 1day.
ElVikin said:
I hope u really try to get them to awnser what they change this time and then u can tell us? who knows it might help to know that.
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Same problem here. I called HTC, they picked up my device, replaced the inside (motherboard) I guess because my device has a different IMEI number now. Very quick service, within one week my device was at my desk again.
I had similar problems.
had my HTC repaired (new MB)
problems remained the same.
after two repairs I received a new device and even that did not solve my problems.
Up till I bought a new battery
now he is working perfect again!
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
Fill said:
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
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just get a new battery and it hopefully will do...it solved my problems...first time i hat the issue....right now i'm having it again...and it seems like the battery
you say it stays like that or 2 days...try running some heavy apps like igo or something other which is memory and battery consuming..it will probably crash..if it does...i'm 95% sure it's the battery
Fill said:
Hi i have the same problem as all of you. But is there really no solution to this problem except for sending it up to HTC and let the **** be replaced?
I also have the exprience that when its in my pocket is crashes also directly. but when it's just lying on the table nothing happens.
It is now lying there for 2 days without crashing.
i flashed it back to the original ROM. but still crashes after i put it in my pocket.
when i reset it (i cannot turn it normal on with the on button) it turns back on and starts normaly. i can use it now aslong as i don't put it in my pocket.
Please will some-one help find a solution for fixen it what causes these problems.
Many thanks in Advanced Fill
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Exactly my case!!!
I am fed up of being consistently taking my battery out or soft reseting. If it stays over the table quiet, it's ok. The moment it goes into my pocket...
Just ordered Hero...
velhote said:
Exactly my case!!!
I am fed up of being consistently taking my battery out or soft reseting. If it stays over the table quiet, it's ok. The moment it goes into my pocket...
Just ordered Hero...
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Thanks for replying, it seems that the problem has fixed itself. i put it in the original charger for about 3 or 4 days. it still crashed a couple times just reset with the charger connected put it back. i now just disconnect it from changer (2 days) (after 3 or 4 days in the charger) without any crash. runned tomtom for couple or houres?
i also turned the phone function off and removed the simcard.
hopefully it will keep running and then i gonna try to put my simcard back in.
Thanks
Fill
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Ok it crashed already again
So, I left my Artemis in my RAM Aqua Box waterproof phone case attached to my motorcycle while I ran into the store.
I came out, started the bike and started the ride home. That was when I noticed the white screen and my tunes had stopped playing. I've seen it happen before (while turning off the phone in camera mode, etc), but a simple soft reset always fixed it. Not this time...
For two days now I've flashed it back to factory, installed my latest ROM (twice), reconfigured all my settings, etc, only to have the phone seize up by fading to the White Screen Of Death. The only fix is to remove the battery and let it sit for a bit. I have found however I can get the phone to run longer if I put it in the freezer for 15 mins, then it runs as it should until it warms up.
Sometimes it will work for half a day, other times it will fade out even before the soft reset boots up again. It really doesn't like being plugged in to charge or sync.
Now for some more background info. It did get deathly hot in the case I have because it has a clear face, is sealed, and it was sunny. Also, I started the bike when the phone was plugged in. I've heard this is bad for the charging circuit, but I'm leaning to the overheating as being the seminal event of the start of my sorrows because I've started the bike/truck many times with the phone plugged in. Did my luck run out?
What have I done, and how do I fix it?
i have had a white screen problem on my phone to it would go like this when just left on or when wanting to flash it in boot mode i have taken both sim card and memory card out and i have found that the memory care is curupted and works fine now will have to formate the memory card in order for it to work properly in the phone again
htc artimis 02 orbit
Yes, you can remove your memory card.
Just had similar problem. Possible reason: ROM update. Possible solution - ROM changed again (different) and hard reset. Hopefully everything will be ok. Until now (9 hours) - it is!
SCREEN
Hello
sorry i speak english a little.My TC P3300 have a problem on screen.I replace the lcd screen because the old make a hole white every 5 s.With the new its the same.What happen
thanks
I have the same Problem I started getting the White screen when i try and access anything it hangs and then goes white screen I removed the sd 2gb and left the sim in and id stil did the same thing but now i put the 4gb out of my laptop and now it seems to work but i still get the power on problem sumtimes
Im running wm 6.5 Arte_WM65_23009_WWE_Fixed_IE_b1
Any sugeustions? help plz
i have same problem
Even I was facing the same problem. I did hard reset couple if times and didn't find a solution. So finally I gave the phone to the service center and it seems now it's been fixed. I will ask the service guys about the actual problem and would post it here.
It may help someone.
Now I am going to try android on my phone, wish me luck.
Regards,
Rajesh
rajeshrr said:
Even I was facing the same problem. I did hard reset couple if times and didn't find a solution. So finally I gave the phone to the service center and it seems now it's been fixed. I will ask the service guys about the actual problem and would post it here.
It may help someone.
Now I am going to try android on my phone, wish me luck.
Regards,
Rajesh
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Did U ask the service guy abt the screen problem
Hi,
can anyone help me plz? My Pda sometimes freezes and sometimes turns off and i need to take of the batery to turn on again.
Sorry but i'm noob in this stuff...
regards
Mine too
Mine too, in various moments (actions). During the phone call, typing SMS, receiving SMS etc just freezes, screen goes off (actually very dark gray) and can't do anything but to take battery out and back in and restart.
It was working fine till couple of weeks ago. Then I have tried S2U2 and some keyboard prog.
I have tried with hard reset but no luck.
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
P.S. just found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543194
Seems to me that replacing the battery could be the answer!!!
good luck rui_gaia
Edit on Okt 30, 2009
Seems to me that new battery doesn't help. Same thing again. Ugh!
Hi
I had similar pproblems on mine and it really turned out to be the battery.
Xtremerer said:
Hi
I had similar pproblems on mine and it really turned out to be the battery.
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Thanks Xtremerer,
Today news:
I just got my Artemis from the service and the guy told me that I had two problems:
1. Software - he just did some kind of "repair" tool for services (not flashing)
2. Hardware - problem with mini USB connector on the bottom of the phone - he said - inspect your cables, one might be bad.
(3). Battery - I gave him the phone with the original battery although i have both the new one. He told me to change the battery, this one is bad, screen flickers because of it.
I was happy for couple of hours, but, it turned out that my WiFi doesn't work anymore
Any idea?
Hi iv been searching the forums for the last week or so trying to find if anyone has fixed the white screen crash. tryed everything i can think of.
New battery still dont work
Changed rom and radio over 100 times with different cooked and original roms
the phone seems to overheat and the crashing gets worse.
Has anyone got any more knowledge of this problem please help.
Many thanks Russ
Just looked at the post bellow my new post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=599000
Seems to have the same problem, i have had the phone in the fridge for 10 - 20 min and it seems to work.
Could it be the battery being shorted by something
just dismantled my orbit, took out the internal clock battery and turned the phone on, white screen instanly no boot or anything, put it back in and the phone works for x amount of time. anyone know where i can get a new battery or whatever this cell is