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I just bough my XDAIIs. Live in Sydney Australia.
I'm generally happy with it but the wifi reception is really bad.
I work at a Uni where we have a huge wireless Network with over 150 basestations and I work in the ITS department where we have at least 4 wireless access points. 3 of them a A radio and one is the BG radio.
From what I've seen the XDAIIs used the BG radio and not the A but I have been reasing several posts and it looks like the wifi antenna is very weak.
I too took my XDAIIs right in front of the base station set the reception to FULL and could barely manage a signal and even when it did manage a signal I couldn't connect.
I have
ROM Version 1.12.62
ROM Date 10/04/04
Radio Version: 1.02.00
Protocol: 1337.32
ExtROM Version: 1.12.925WWE
Is it possible to update the ROM on the XDAIIs yet with a later version such as ROM 2.02.t1WWE. I see posts inidcating its possible on XDAII but not XDAIIs
Peter Birkle
Peter,
I haven't bought a Blue Angel yet, primarily for this reason. However, I've been watching these forums closely to see if anyone knows what the problem is with WiFi reception.
So far, no one has posted a solution, and I fear it's not a ROM or software related issue, but a hardware design issue. My guess is that the WiFi antenna design is extremely poor and either:
1. Internals are interfering with the reception of the WiFi signal
2. The case (which I do believe is some metal alloy) might actually be preventing the internal antenna from receiving external signals.
Hope it helps. By the way, the Blue Angel only supports 802.11b, not 11g or 11a.
Some wireless defination
802.11a - almost proprietary wireless network (All PDA based devices are 802.11b, as per other reply)
802.11b - standard 11mb, and what has been mainstay of most wireless devices up until past 6 months
802.11g - standard 54mb wireless.
Sure there are some others in the range afterwards, but next comes configuration.
Most A wireless networks only communicate with other A networks, few were bought out with interopaeratibilty.
B networks will communicate with B Networks
Most G networks are set by default as communicate with G only (The fast setting), and are not changed to support both, as with many wireless networks, slows the entire speed to the lowest connected speed.
Nearly all G wireless networks are backward compatible with B networks and hence why is displayed on box B/G
Hope this clears it up.
For some real run, get wififofum and a bluetooth GPS, and plot out the access points, then hand to your security audit guy, watch those eyes turn red.
I'm not sure it is a hardware issue because mine works absolutely fine and I've spoken to others who have no problems. Anywhere in the house I get a really good signal (about two thirds on the signal quality indicator) and even outside I get a signal. And that is on best battery setting. A friend of mine lives three doors down (i.e. a lot of bricks in the way!) and I JUST get a signal in his house with best wi-fi performance set.
This would suggest the hardware is fine. Certainly it is on a par with my Dell 510m laptop with a centrino chip.
The only thing I've noticed is that the signal indicator drops off VERY quickly as I move away from the house. So it will stay on two thirds for quite some time and then suddenly drop down to almost nothing about 30 meters away.
ROM 1.12.62 WWE
Rom Date 10/04/04
Radio 1.02.00
WiFi fine on Cingular Siemens Sx66
Following these posts led me to have low expectation of the WiFi capability of the SX66, but having received mine on Monday, I am pleased to state, that at least on my unit, the WiFi is working great. On my AP, I run MAC filtering, 128bit WEP and shared authentication. To ease the installation, I turned my AP back to OPEN Authentication, WEP OFF, and MAC filtering OFF. In this config, the SX66 immediately found and connected to my AP. This also gave me an easy way to determine the MAC address of the SX66 for inclusion in my AP and my router tables (ie PPC Wireless LAN Manager MAIN tab). The WiFi signal strength indicated was on par with what my two other WiFi notebooks indicated(ie around 3/4 max). Taking this one step at a time, I then added the SX66's MAC address to my AP and router tables and turned on MAC filtering. That worked okay, so I then set the AP to WEP encryption and entered my 128 HEX (yes HEX) WEP key into the SX66. BINGO, that worked as well. Then I set the AP and the SX66 into Shared Authentication mode and that worked as well. So, I have my SX66 connected my well guarded WiFi AP with full filtering, encryption and authentication active.
As I mentioned, in testing the WiFi capability, I am finding it at least as good as what my Dlink DWL650+ PCCards running in my notebooks and it also seems to have similar range.
I did note that if you leave the Power Save Mode in the default setting ("Best Battery"),it really dogs down the perfomance of WiFi. I moved mine back to "Best Performance" and the web browsing speed is on par with my notebooks.
All in all, I am very pleased with the WiFi connectivity.
david
wi fi reception
Hi, I don't know about wi fi and all, but could it be an issue where there just isn't a good signal..or the signal you receive depends on where you are as it does if you have a tower close by or not? Sorry if I seem like I don't know what I'm talking about...because I don't. I've just been getting into these devices in the last 6 months and really behind...I'm wanting a blue angel (early next year), but want to make sure it's right for me and weigh the good against the bad
Peoples,
I would like to set up my Orbit to work as a modem for my Laptop whilst on holidays ie use it to connect to the internet etc
Question is how can I do same, and the best method given that my laptop has bluetooth and wifi (or direct cable connection?)?
Many thanks
I assume you're on O2 and don't mind paying for GPRS roaming while aboard, which I assume your holiday is also aboard.
You can follow the below link from O2 (setup for windows) which tells you what username/passowrd, phone number and ips you need to put in the settings.
http://www.o2.co.uk/assets/O2HybridNav/Static-files/PDFs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
as far as the installing the modem goes, turn on bluetooth, discoverable, and your PC should see your phone in the bluetooth browser and you should be able to add it as a modem.
Thanks for the reply humps
...will try here (UK) first, but back in Australia will use a local SIM for data and calls....cheers
It's not that hard..
You simply need to pair up your orbit with the lappy... the blootooth should detect and install various components (modem etc)... but the one you need to use is Bluetooth LAN. On the orbit, go to intenet sharing, make the pc conenction Bluetooth PAN, and hit conenct - I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
Then, just double-click the bluetooth LAN connection on the laptop, and it should piggyback on the back of the orbit's GPRS connection.
USB is easy, start Internet Sharing in the Programs menu, tell it what connection settings to use, select USB, then touch connect. Plug the cable into the laptop and your done.
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I've not tried it on USB, as the bluetooth is perfect...
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Except it runs the battery down very quickly. USB will charge the battery whilst you browse.... But other than that it is fine.
i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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i was wondering is it possible to share ppc's wifi connection through usb to a lappy without wifi capability?
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1315142&postcount=2
It might or might not work though!
This really gets me in the UK... I have hundreds of mins free calls yet get charged sill money for going on line GPRS.... When away its cheeper to plug into a phone line and go on dial up and the same speed.... why hasnt someone come up with a way of using the phone as a 'modem' old skool style. that way i could use the phone call mins and pay for the on line time rather than kbs
Interesting thought GPRS v GSM
Have you tried settings..connections, add a new connection and just specify 'Cellular Line' arather than GPRS...
You'll need an ISP with a dialup number, but it would count as a standard call.
Problem, of course, is that most ISP dialups are 0845 numbers which won't come out of your call allowance, but if you could find one with say an 020 number, you may be getting somewhere (line spped would be v slow, but it would be good enough to download mails and then read them offline)
BT - WIFI interfirence
Try this on your Excalibur:
Establish connection with BT headset
Dial voice number
Activate WIFI at the same time
Did you hear any crackling and noise in your BT headset?
i'll try this a bit later when i get the chance, but isn't it common to have some interference if data is transmitting for both since they're both operating on 2.4ghz? also, what headset are you using? bt 1.2 should be better than 1.1
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i'll try this a bit later when i get the chance, but isn't it common to have some interference if data is transmitting for both since they're both operating on 2.4ghz? also, what headset are you using? bt 1.2 should be better than 1.1
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Well, I don't have this problem with TyTn.
I've tried Nokia BH 900 and Jabra JX10 - both 2.0
I'm glad i saw this thread. I'm having the same issue. I cannot stream music to my motorola ht820 bluetooth stereo headset if i use wifi. It just keeps stopping and freaks out on me. I was having issues streaming videos to my dash via wifi and using the headset also. I could not stream 100kbps videos over wifi! I thought the phone just wasn't powerful enough. (although it's not.. I could stream 300kbps videos on my old hp 3615 via wifi fine.)
I just was able to stream a video at 300kbps fine without bluetooth turned on using wifi and it worked fine. Grr!!
BT and wifi both use the same frequency.
I think you shoud try an other channel for the wifi. It may solve your problem.
Wifi how do you set IPs/DNS info?
did i over look something i can't figure out how to set IP, DNS and Subnet for my phone. I've gone to every connection screen did i over look something?
Internet via WiFi - Wireless Access Points Only
I am not subscribing to the data service on my cellular net. I only want to be able to access the net and email when I am in range of my WAP at home/work or at my favorite hot spots. I've got the WiFi settings so that I am connecting to my WAP and can see the SSID when it connects.. I've tried adjusting the settings in the IE options and am at the point where once in a while (1 out of 8 or so ) I can open access one page of a web site.. but can not navigate any further. If I type a different URL in it says locating and loading then times out.... what did I miss???
T-Mobile Dash / Re-ROM-ed to Excaliber.
All other functions seem to be OK.
Thanks, XmP
I've seen this as well. Playing around earlier today, I installed Opera Mini. Opera works fine over wifi or edge. I believe that the issue involves one or more IE bugs involving either the size (fragmentation?) of cache and/or scripts.
Also, Opera Mini isn't a solution (yet) either. It works great once installed and launched from the installer - but has to be uninstaller and reinstalled to work after you exit.
I can't wait for a linux port
I run into this problem all the time at my college and at my home. I turn on my wifi and the phone defaults to the network instead of wifi. I am on cingular with the 8125, I was using I/S PL 1.08 i just updated to cingular rom 2.24.10.1 WWE. I have tried IE, Opera, Mozilla (Minimo) and another i forget the name of. In all I preferred Opera but I feel Mozilla will be the best once the bugs are gone.
Oh yah and when I try and connect to the wifi network at my school they require a redirect to login through bluesocket. That is just too difficult for my little wizard and I rarely get through that system.
External antenna jack on Excaliber/Dash... is it just for GSM? or also WiFi?
Anyone had experience with the external antenna jack on the back of the Dash (under the mirror button)? Just wondering if using this connector would improve performance on WiFi? or is it designed only for GSM reception?
I found a cable which fits the connector perfectly. Thanks for your responses.
Issue solved!
I rebooted my wireless router and everything works great...
Bump!
I'm guessing the absence of answers means that the settings cannot be changed (or may need a reg hack to do so) - I can't find them anywhere either...
so it works for an external wifi as well?
yes, it is possible to change these settings (or at least the IP adress). I have read about it, but can't remeber where. It's possible to chnge it somewhere in the registry, can't be changed directly through settings. If I find it, where I read about it, I will post it here ...
As I remember the external is designed for car holder external antenna, not for WiFi. You may find at most of the GSM mobile back also have this.
This was posted over at howardforums too. What, you didn't search the internet endlessly to find an answer?
Above poster is correct, it's for GSM only. Like I said over at HoFo, unless you're lost in the backwoods, I don't think it's going to help much. Plus, it looks a tad silly!
Thanks for all your responses. Yeah, I posted the question in a couple of forums (the level of expertise varies widely, as you know!).
Reason I asked... we want to be able to access realtime weather conditions while at a remote nature facility on a barrier island here on the West Coast of Florida -- you know, like hurricanes There is a weak WiFi signal from an access point about 1/4 mile away. I simply wanted to establish a stronger link by using an external antenna.
So although it might have looked silly, it was to be a quick fix for instant weather updates (like radar), when needed.
Wifi connection sloooow. For you also?
Hi, with my stock htc s620, establishing a connection to a wifi network that is already saved (home & work), takes around 1 to 2 mins.
What often happens also is that it goes to sleep before even connecting (with me waiting in IE or mail to clic on a favorite or do a send & receive action).
I can't understand this since a nokia n80 will take seconds and it's almost instantaneous on my macbook.
Are there any tricks or software that can accelerate this (unless I'm the only one to have this problem)?
Seems to be a problem of your hardware or a configuration problem. I have energy save mode enabled and usually it takes two or three seconds to connect, sometimes up to ten seconds, if it has extremly low WiFi-Signal.
interesting, I'm going to investigate on the software part first... You really think it could be a hardware issue?
What's sure is that once the connection is established, it's fast and doesn't drop.
BTW, do you mean seconds after the handset is waken up from sleep?
Hum, after looking in my Remove section on my handset, nothing appears, is there some kind of registry cleaner for smartphone?
I have web and walk unlimited internet with T-Mobile which is about as fast or a bit slower than 56K. It's great though for when I'm out and about.
At home today, I connected it to my pc and activesync fired up. It showed me that I now have a new local area connection 3 specifically for the mda, as well as my local area connection 6 for my broadband. All of a sudden, my mda is as fast as my broadband connection! It loads up pages and threads as fast as my home pc does, which is on a 2MB connection. Fantastic. I didn't realise this would happen so that's pretty cool.
What you say is right but if you're sitting in front of your PC with you're MDA attached to it with around 1m or so of cable why bother using the MDA?
i would do it over bluetooth or better yet wifi
then one dont have to operate the pda right in front of the pc
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What you say is right but if you're sitting in front of your PC with you're MDA attached to it with around 1m or so of cable why bother using the MDA?
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Because I can use my MDA for surfing and stuff while my pc is occupied with say, gaming.
Rudegar said:
i would do it over bluetooth or better yet wifi
then one dont have to operate the pda right in front of the pc
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But my MDA doesn't have wifi, only the xda orbit has that, no?
I'm not sure I can bluetooth, I don't think my pc has it.
Roman5 said:
But my MDA doesn't have wifi, only the xda orbit has that, no?
I'm not sure I can bluetooth, I don't think my pc has it.
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every Artemis has Wi-Fi apart from bloody T-Mobile MDACIIIs... T-Mobile removed the hardware so that you had to pay for Web'n'Walk seemed to work lol
Web and Walk works for me, what do i need WiFi for? Everywhere where there is a usable WiFi Connection i most propably have a notebook or a computer with me ^^
I have the Artemis HTC version and T-Mobile version, I have to say that I have only switched the WiFi on a couple of times in the last 14 months on the P3300, I just use the Web-n-Walk, since getting the Ameo most of my mobile internet use has switched to that device (its noticably faster) - roll on the Touch Cruse (Polaris) as that will be a true step in the right direction - Mike
I have a T-Mobile MDA Compact III and decided to get Onspeed
I pay £7.50pm for the Web 'n' Walk and a smidge over £2pm (£25 pa) for the Onspeed. The end result is effectively unlimited downloads at broadband speed on my MDA for a tenner per month. You can't get streaming downloads but I only ever use it for surfing anyway so that is no great loss.
You'd need to be in a wi-fi hotspot to get that (if the MDA had it) but I can surf wherever there is a phone signal. Including on the train and Tube on the overground section of my commute
You know it makes sense
Save yourself the £25 per year and drop the onspeed, it will not be doing anything at all for a mobile phone GPRS based internet connection, the speed is governed by the network provider and the hardware you are using - Mike
mikealder said:
Save yourself the £25 per year and drop the onspeed, it will not be doing anything at all for a mobile phone GPRS based internet connection, the speed is governed by the network provider and the hardware you are using - Mike
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It is definitely MUCH quicker using the Onspeed browser than straight GPRS with PIE. Reformats the pages a bit but that doesn't bother me in the slightest.
If somebody was able to tell me how to speed up WnW via GPRS on a CompactIII without Onspeed I am all ears
HOW???
Roman5 said:
I have web and walk unlimited internet with T-Mobile which is about as fast or a bit slower than 56K. It's great though for when I'm out and about.
At home today, I connected it to my pc and activesync fired up. It showed me that I now have a new local area connection 3 specifically for the mda, as well as my local area connection 6 for my broadband. All of a sudden, my mda is as fast as my broadband connection! It loads up pages and threads as fast as my home pc does, which is on a 2MB connection. Fantastic. I didn't realise this would happen so that's pretty cool.
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Dear Roman5,
How on earth did you get such a fast connection? I have tried that before but it won't connect to the internet, even though it does recognise a new local area connection. I have to exit activesync and use the MDA's 'internet sharing' software - PAINFULLY SLOW, in fact my old dial-up was faster
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Dear Roman5,
How on earth did you get such a fast connection? I have tried that before but it won't connect to the internet, even though it does recognise a new local area connection. I have to exit activesync and use the MDA's 'internet sharing' software - PAINFULLY SLOW, in fact my old dial-up was faster
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same here mate would really appreciate to know which settings you are using.
He isn't saying that he is getting ultra fast speeds on the PC when connected with his phone. What he is saying is that when his Artemis is connected, it uses the PC's internet connection as its own. So instead of using GPRS or Wi-Fi, it uses the computer as like a broadband USB modem
I do it with mine when its activesync. Especially when I have just flashed a new ROM and I'm using Resco Update
ah right. you mean using the pc as the modem?
but why would you want to do that? lol just use the PC.
i guess you are right tho no matter how fast t mobile provide their internet, if the phone as a 56k modem then you can only get 56k down the pc if using phone as the modem.
maybe the next model up might have a faster modem?
Yes that's right, it uses my pc's broadband connection instead of it's own gprs. I only noticed it because I connect the MDA to my pc every day to charge the phone. It's handy when I'm gaming on my pc or using some other application. If I want to surf the net at the same time, I can use the MDA at broadband speed.
Hello, I am a rookie, let us a lot of attention
You can share a 3G network to a laptop via an HTC Touch Pro2 but, near as I can tell, you can't share a Wi-Fi connection? ie. if my laptop doesn't, itself, have a Wi-Fi connection, can I use my cellphone's Wi-Fi connectivity to connect to a Wi-Fi network?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630337
Posts 4 and 7
Searching is the key
orb3000 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630337
Posts 4 and 7
Searching is the key
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I think that he's wanting to use the phone as a wifi adapter (i.e. wireless NIC) for his laptop, rather than using the phone as a wifi router. In other words...his laptop does't have built-in wifi at all, so he wants to use his phone to accomplish that rather than an external USB stick, card, etc. I've been curious for a while if that's even possible, but haven't come across any methods yet...
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I think that he's wanting to use the phone as a wifi adapter (i.e. wireless NIC) for his laptop, rather than using the phone as a wifi router. In other words...his laptop does't have built-in wifi at all, so he wants to use his phone to accomplish that rather than an external USB stick, card, etc. I've been curious for a while if that's even possible, but haven't come across any methods yet...
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That's exactly it. Most places I go to have ethernet cables I can plug into but, from time to time, I find myself at a place that just has 802.11b/g access points. Rather than carry a PCMCIA wireless adapter around with me so that I might use it once every blue moon, I'd just assume use something I already have on me - my cellphone - as a wireless adapter.
Alternatively, if I, at a future date, got a laptop with a built in wireless adapter, it'd still be nice to be able to have two wireless adapters. ie. maybe the 802.11g network I'm connecting to uses WPA and I'm trying to connect with a Nintendo DS that only supports WEP networks. I could, in theory, use my cell phone as an adapter to the WPA network and turn my laptop into a WEP access point.
I'd say there are several use cases for being able to use a cellphone as an adapter to an 802.11g network, although I will grant that they're probably fairly niche use cases.
I am also interested in this as it would allow me to use my laptop for free internet at places like starbucks where my Tilt 2 gets to connect for free.
Internet>>> ATT Wifi >>> Tilt 2 >>>> Laptop
I too would love this functionality. If anyone knows of an app/registry hack/whatever that enables this, please post the details here.
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I too would love this functionality. If anyone knows of an app/registry hack/whatever that enables this, please post the details here.
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WMWifiRouter (not free) has this functionality. Along with the standard features like cellular to WiFi and cellular to USB, WMWifiRouter also does more exotic connections like WiFi to USB. It's €15, but it's an application with a lot of functionality and the developer who created it is a very highly respected XDA member, who provides many of his other products for free.
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WMWifiRouter (not free) has this functionality. Along with the standard features like cellular to WiFi and cellular to USB, WMWifiRouter also does more exotic connections like WiFi to USB. It's €15, but it's an application with a lot of functionality and the developer who created it is a very highly respected XDA member, who provides many of his other products for free.
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Awesome, thanks Dave. I'd been thinking about buying it anyway in place of the (very basic) free wifi router app I found on here too, and now it sounds like a no-brainer
Just did it
I just did this very setup earlier with my HTC Tilt 2. I had the phone connected to my Wi-Fi network, and turned off my Wi-Fi on my laptop. Connected the phone to the laptop using the USB cable, and selected "Use as modem" and it was an automatic process...i'm running Windows 7 on my laptop..if that helps..it just worked.