Well guys,i am going (me and other guys who have good experience in e-circuits)to try build a USB port to the Himalaya..
Now I understand by the http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors link that only the large connector have the pins for USB..
During this time,any help,new informations about himalaya's USB will be appreciated.
In fact the project "USB port" is actually at level zero. (really busy previous week)
I am trying to make this to connect especially a Mouse to XDA2
So,I really need a help from you,MattM and others..
Can someone build or convert a generic windows mouse driver to pocket pc?
Or maybe is more easy to make a serial connector for mouse?
Then does we need a pointer?
-Is this factible? or just a dream?
(Laucher Prog based on Flash like PocketWin has a Pointer add-on)
Waiting for your replyes!
Regards,Ser
i read something about it in this forum, try searching for home made keyboard or mouse & you might find some answers to the basic questions
Come on guys!
I will use the DC adapter connector and USB female connector.(You can see the photos attached)
-But first explain me closely about UDC- and UDC+ does they are for data transmission or power?
Also USB_VDD is for?
-If I connect a USB device to the XDA2 does it will give power to it?(for mouse,etc..) or do I need to connect an external power alimentation? If yes,6V?
-If I build a Serial port can you explain more about:
RS232_DCD
RS232_CTS
RS232_TXD
RS232_RTS
RS232_RXD
RS232_DTR
Maybe is simply make the serial cable like on the "Connector's Page" (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors) and attach a serial Female-Female to connect Mouses and others?
Please post your comments,suggestions,ideas.
Regards,Ser.
UDC- and UDC+ are data
USB_VDD is for power
I don't think anyone yet knows if the XDAII can work as a USB host anyway.
For rs232 you will normally only need RS232_RXD, RS232_TXD and ground.
I'm sure someone did a serial mouse program before....
Jamie
RS232_RXD, RS232_TXD are for data?
I hope someone did the program but i've searched over i-net and didn't find anything about it!
I've also read about the built-in USB port of Toshiba,some people connected their HDD and all went perfectly.
So,I hope connect a mouse will not be so hard..
Regards
Have a look here for a mouse driver http://www.windowsfordevices.com/articles/AT3401319437.html
Yeah,i've seen it before but don't sure if it will function properly,but let's take it for that moment.
Thanx!
After a short search over i-net I found the prog. that uses Toshiba for its serial devices like mouse,keyboards: Click n'type and Point n'type..let's figure more about.
OK,now I will connect the female usb to the connector like:
RED (USB_VDD +5V) to Pin 13
GREEN (UDC+) to pin 14
GOLD (UDC-) to pin 15
BLUE (GROUND) to pin 16
Correct me if it isn't.
But I can't find a scheme of the connector that I will use,I can't understand which is the pin 1..2..
Can someone give me help about?
Thanx to RUDEGAR that provided me the link,http://www.deje.gmxhome.de/software.html
I have the USB drivers and pointer for Mouse,also support for Mass storage.
i have disambled this connector 2 times
let me look it up for you
[UPSIDE]
[1] [5] [9] [13] [17] [21]
[3] [7] [11] [15] [19]
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[4] [8] [12] [16] [20]
[2] [6] [10] [14] [18] [22]
[DOWNSIDE]
now the upside is when you hold the connector flat and you see the 2 cutout lines in the plastic wich goes into the xda
topleft from that is pin 1
Well,the cable doesn't work! :x
-XDA2 does not give power to the usb device (tryed with a optical mouse)
(N:we verified with a VoltMeter and all cables seems to be ok)
-Also the DeJe Drivers (originally built to Toshiba) don't work. But the driver's are compatible with all WM2003 OS..
-I verified that on my pc(Win XP) when I connect the Optical mouse,it will no give power to the device once it load the drivers,so I guess maybe the same on Pocket Pc?
What do you think about?
-Probably I will build a Serial Cable for the Mouse
Regards, Ser
have you tryed a usb pen yet.. I see you mentioned storage before
yes,in fact I have't installed the Mass storage drivers for a Pen Drive,etc..
But I verified that no led (on pen drive) and no optical light was lightening so is easy to understand that XDA2 don't gives power to the USB devices... :?:
would they light anyway ? do they only light when the correct drivers are used and its told to light. I think it would be a awesome idea to add usb to the xda.. you could then use it for loads of other things..
unapproachable2kx said:
Well,the cable doesn't work! :x
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It cannot work. Never will.
There are two different types of USB devices: hosts and clients. You can only ever connect a client to a host. Connecting client to client does not work. It's a bit like two people picking up the phone, none of them dialing a number, but still hoping they'd get connected. Not going to happen.
All USB mice are USB clients. The XDA II also is a USB client. The USB chip in the XDA II can only handle being a client. It does not support host mode, so no software in the world can change the XDA II to a USB host.
So, connecting a USB client to an XDA II will never work.
For serial communication (RS232), there is no such problem, so it may be possible to connect a serial mouse to the XDA II. The first thing you have to make sure is that the voltage is correct. "Normal" RS232 uses +12V/-12V, whereas most small devices (and quite likely also the XDA II) uses 0V/5V. You may have to add a MAX232 (or compatible) level shifter chip to your cable.
I strongly suggest you search the 'net for RS232 and read as much as you can find. If you just experiment with cables without really understanding the implications, you might damage your XDA II.
Once you sorted that out, make sure you connect all the handshake lines your mouse uses. I would imagine that some mice may need at least the DTR line assigned before they will start doing anything.
After that, the rest is software. Your driver will have to a) pick the correct baud rate, b) drive the handshake lines correctly, and then c) it can start receiving data.
Good luck!
Daniel
well there are CF cards which have usb master support
and with the backpack the xda2 can use CF cards
of cause the driver issue could be troublesome and i'm
not sure about the speed dec going that interface to interface way
but i would not rule out that it could work
with the right drivers mind you
How about connecting a serial to USB convertor to the serial port on the XDA II?, surely that would leave you with a USB host port that you could plug a mouse into?
In this case is more simple to connect serial mouse to the serial port.
Dunno if how u tell the usb will work.. :?:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/product.asp?code=113389
Would this do the trick?
It says host ports, can the XDA2 handle it?
Hey guys...
After reading the last wm6 vanilla thread, i can imagine how annoying i was w/ the wm6 black 2.0 release b*ing and whining about how i coudln't my wireless to work...
anyways, i'll try to cut the stupidity posts to a minimum but in the meantime maybe someone has tried using a usb gps receiver on their phone.
i'm trying to configure ports and stuff via usb, but not too sure what baud rate, which com port etc to set everything at for maximum usage... in fact i don't even know if the darn thing works with my phone either
about to reinstall googlemaps to see if the usb will work....
i know everyone is using bluetooth, but i had this garmin usb 18 laying around for my laptop and bought a usb --> mini usb adapter and thought i'd try it
if anyone has tried, please help me out... thanks
wrong forum
Not a stupid question, a stupid place to ask it. Try here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=307
you can't connect a USB GPS to the phone.
the USB GPSs require a server side USB port, the phone is only a client USB port. Hence, you can't connect peripherals to it such as GPSs, printers etc...
Bluetooth GPS units work very well with the Hermes though!?
ygeller said:
you can't connect a USB GPS to the phone.
the USB GPSs require a server side USB port, the phone is only a client USB port. Hence, you can't connect peripherals to it such as GPSs, printers etc...
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well i guess that ends this thread
dangit, guess i have to go invest in a BT one ... moderator, shut me down
dmenshunzz said:
well i guess that ends this thread
dangit, guess i have to go invest in a BT one ... moderator, shut me down
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yes please close this thread... the if the hermes supported USB Host then it would be a possibility of having it working... but no chance....
Hi,
I bought an used Dash and when I try to sync it through ActiveSync nothing happens. I tried to intiate the sync from the Dash and nothing happens either.
Basically, nothing happens when I connect it to the USB port in the PC. It doesn't try to sync, the PC doesn't see a new unit or anything else that happens when you connect something to the USB. I used to have another Dash sync'd to the same computer and everything was fine.
Is it possible that the usb port in this Dash is broken? is there any way to verify it? I've tried with two different cables that I know they work and plugging it in different USB ports in the PC.
Thanks.
= J =
PD: the Dash does charge through the usb cable. And after charging for a bit, I can see that the battery is full, led is green.
profitoral said:
Hi,
I bought an used Dash and when I try to sync it through ActiveSync nothing happens. I tried to intiate the sync from the Dash and nothing happens either.
Basically, nothing happens when I connect it to the USB port in the PC. It doesn't try to sync, the PC doesn't see a new unit or anything else that happens when you connect something to the USB. I used to have another Dash sync'd to the same computer and everything was fine.
Is it possible that the usb port in this Dash is broken? is there any way to verify it? I've tried with two different cables that I know they work and plugging it in different USB ports in the PC.
Thanks.
= J =
PD: the Dash does charge through the usb cable. And after charging for a bit, I can see that the battery is full, led is green.
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Check this:
on the dash
Start menu
Settings
Connections
More
USB to PC
remove the check-box in the advanced connection setting
save and try again
also... are you running a firewall? if so, that's quite likely a problem as well. i run comodo and it blocks the connection. i haven't figured out the proper setting yet to allow the phone through so i just shut comodo off when i'm needing to access the phone from my computer.
When you plug your usb cable into your phone, does the light on the top turn either amber or green? If so, usb connection is working. If it is still not syncing, open Activesync on your PC got to tools-connectionsettings and make sure Allow usb connections is checked.
Hello, I have really odd problems with connecting devices to my sgs2. When I connect the cable my phone recognizes it and sometimes recognises also wireless mouse when I connect it. Problems starts when I want to connect pendrive or hard drive (with addictional power cable). The phone doesn't recognise it (already found that i need program to mount from market (doesn't work)) and hard drive shuts itself down after few moments.
Also when I take out cable from micro usb port my phone immidiatelly reboots sometimes it even does it when I just connect and disconnect cable without mouse etc on the second end. I am using rooted 4.0.3 XXLPW. Does anyone has similar problems or just my phone has something wrong with usb port? Looking forward for any helpful responses and sorry for my eng. Thanks.
problem with USB HOST
feaden said:
hello, i have really odd problems with connecting devices to my sgs2. When i connect the cable my phone recognizes it and sometimes recognises also wireless mouse when i connect it. Problems starts when i want to connect pendrive or hard drive (with addictional power cable). The phone doesn't recognise it (already found that i need program to mount from market (doesn't work)) and hard drive shuts itself down after few moments.
Also when i take out cable from micro usb port my phone immidiatelly reboots sometimes it even does it when i just connect and disconnect cable without mouse etc on the second end. I am using rooted 4.0.3 xxlpw. Does anyone has similar problems or just my phone has something wrong with usb port? Looking forward for any helpful responses and sorry for my eng. Thanks.
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yes man,i have had the same problem ,try to check the quality of your cable ,check wether its damaged because if there is shortcut among the wires,this might be the cause of the problem,
Hi everybody, first of all, english is not my main language so sorry if i dont speak it very well.
I got a Nexus 7 2013 wifi 5.1.1 on my car. Actually my configuration is this:
Nexus 7, Y cable, one to an USB charger and the other to a HUB( normal one)
I use ElementalX kernel for OTG + charge, because if not, doesnt work.
I have this problem:
When i connect my car( dont start it, just place the key) the tablet start, i change one command with fastboot, and if we wait until the balls start floating I start my car the tablet charge, if I dont wait, it doesnt.
Now, the tablet doesnt recognize me the USB.
I use stickmount, total commander, usb plugin, es file explorer...and i cant see my USB, so, can you tell me wich is the best option?
I got another cable, normal one, so i can place:
Nexus, cable, HUB and connect one USB between the charger and the HUB( really is connect one USB from the charger to the hub, and the hub to a micro USB - USB female)
Please help!!
Timur