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Working bluetooth headsets for PDA2K?

Hi! Just want to know which bluetooth headsets are compatible with PDA2K. I spent a lot of time in the shop yesterday, but for the life of me, I couldn't get the SE HBH-600 or the Nokia HDW-2 to work with it.
The HBH-600 got paired, but as soon as a call connected, the audio was switched to the handset, with the headset being disconnected. As soon as the call was dropped, the connection to the headset was resumed.
As for the HDW-2, I couldn't get it to connect. I really need a bluetooth headset pronto, because of the incidences of cellphone-snatching here in Karachi, so please could you guys help me out ASAP? Thanks in advance!

Hi There,
I use the Jabra 250 without any problems
Cheers
Pointy

I have tried 4 different headsets with the Blue Angel.
The current winner is the Cardo Scala 500...which is nice because its also the cheapest.

I'm using the older Sony Ericsson HBH-35 with mine and seems to work just fine. My only problems are that the battery on this one is dying a bit lately, but that's hardly the phones fault!

I am using the G2 Bluetrek as sold in O2 shops under the O2 brand.
Works...intemittently...sometimes great - sometimes very noisy - sometimes it looses connection! I also find that it seems to go to the highest volume setting at the start of every call which hurts my ears!
R

Well I have been using a Plantronics M3000 on BT Builds 3500 and then 3900 without any problems

Hallo!
I am using SE HBH 300, works fine with BT Builds 3500.
My older BT-headset Jabra 300 did´not worked, (could not answer 90% of the calls)
/M

Hi.
Im using the HBH 600 with both BT Build 3500 & 3900.
I dont experience any troubles with the 3900 build, only the poor range and sometimes a little crackling sound, but this seems to be the same for all BT headsets with the BA.
You can get the Build 3900 from the ftp in BlueAngel/Cab_files/Bluetooth Upgrades/bt3900.cab

I am using the Nextlink Bluespoon AX. Works fine for me.
R

I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-660 Akono and works great (except for the fact that the headset's display just shows the number and not the name...)
Joao Caldeira

I'm using the Jabra BT800, and it works perfectly, except for the caller ID showing just the number, and an annoying amount of static when going through an solid object (like my head :roll.
This is with bluetooth build 3500, and all the other headsets I've tried with this phone (SE HBH-65, HBH-300) have exhibited exactly the same problems with static through objects... would appear that the phone isn't giving the signal enough juice, or something? :?
Chris

Just took my old G2 to the O2 store and complained about it being so crap. They replaced it with a new O2 (Bluetrek?) one. Inital opinion is that it is a little better but not a lot - still noisy and complaints of it sounding bad from the other end.....

I'm using the Motorola HS810 and it works just great, actually after a soft reset the volume on the headset is too loud !

HBH-65 seems to work ok for me.

bosjo, it's good to hear that you have got the HBH-600 working. I am unable to do so. I had build 3500, but upgraded to 3900 after reading your post. Still no difference. I had noticed before that when I monitored the headset connection using Bluetooth Manager -> Active Connections, the status would be showing me a full signal, and intermittently, it would become red, meaning that the signal would keep going to zero, and coming back to full. This was even when the phone was hardly 6 inches away from the headset, in line of sight. I'm going to return my bluetooth headset tomorrow, and I wonder if I should get my handset replaced as well. I'm worried that since the problem wasn't fixed by the 3900 build, something may be wrong with my bluetooth radio hardware. Anyways, I am open to suggestions.

Look @ this... might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=17536&highlight=

I have a Bluespoon AX that works perfectly!!
Before that I had a Nokia HDW-2, it worked good too!

Hi all,
It seems the Nextlink Bluespoon AX gets a good press here with the XDA2s - so, where did you guys buy yours???
R

I'm using a bluespoon ax but mine definitely has that crackling sound. I'm using 1.0.0.3900. However, it's definitely not the headset because I've tried it with a magician and it works absolutely fine - friends told me it sounded the same as if I was speaking through the phone.

Sounds like the XDA2s bt stack still needs a lot of work - lets hope a rom upgrade comes out soon which mproves it - there realy is no excuse O2!!!
R

Bluetooth Headset - Bad Sound Quality

Hello,
how can I improve the sound quality of my bluetooth headset?
I've tried several headsets of different manufacturers
(I work at a mobile phones distributor so I had some to choose )
and with also different phones.
Nokia, Siemens, Motorola... almost every phone worked well with almost every headset.
But with my MDA-III it's a nightmare
Every headset I've tried has noise and clicking sounds and only works acceptable within about 50cm
I' also updated my Bluetooth Stack to 3900 but it didn't helped.
It there any way to get my Headset (Jabra BT250v) to work?
Thanks in advance,
Dino

hmmm - have to admit I've been attempting to use an I-tech headset (the cheapest one with the "tie-clip" mic and a wired earpiece) and I thought the poor reception (but only with certain phone calls oddly) was the headset being cheap tat - not the phone!

Every headset I've tried has noise and clicking sounds and only works acceptable within about 50cm Sad
I' also updated my Bluetooth Stack to 3900 but it didn't helped.
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I too run .3900 and radio 1.08 I always had the *VERY SAME* trouble that you describe here..
I tried Ericsson 600 and 660 heatdsets, and I bought an EpoX HS02-BT it works for well over 10 meters with any Nokia or Ericsson phone I tested, It even works 10 meters with "QTEK S100" - but my 9090 sucks in this area.
I wonder if my (and yours) 9090 is somehow defect.

ipzipzap said:
But with my MDA-III it's a nightmare
Every headset I've tried has noise and clicking sounds and only works acceptable within about 50cm
I' also updated my Bluetooth Stack to 3900 but it didn't helped.
It there any way to get my Headset (Jabra BT250v) to work?
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Unfortunely I have the same problem , and I really need Headset for working .
I tried Radio 10 and 3900 stack with some slight improvements then I tried The Jabra 250V with a SonyEriccson of a friend of mine .... everything was perfect sound , 10 meters away , automatic answering and so on .. I guess is an other OS ,
the posts around here state the BT stack from MS is faulty , just wondering if other Smartphone with WM have the some problem
I'm just waiting for a piece of sw that takes all us out of this incredible fiasco !

General BT question.

I do not post a lot but I do read and I love this site. You all have great information.
My question is: Why is the BT such a problem? How come the BT works so well on regular phones but on these divices it is an issue.
I hope this is not a dumb quetion I am just trying to understand.
Thanks.

The general consensus, as I've read here & at HoFo, seems to be that some part of the BA's hardware isn't up to par. ISTR reading that the placement of the BA's antenna is a bit problematic; since both BT & WiFi use the same 2.4 GHz frequency, they could conceivably use the same antenna. Thus a poorly designed 2.4 GHz antenna could explain the BA's substandard WiFi and BT performance.

My BA's WLAN isn't bad at all. I can easily get a fully usable connection to my Netgear WGT 624 accesspoint inside my room on the third floor in a concrete building at a distance of appr. 90 meters.
Also usable inside my car parked on the opposite side of the building!
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BT works well at 10 meters with a GPS receiver.

Thanks for the input guys.

Bluetooth to headset range
Has anyone got to the bottom of the issue with the range for the headset. I have had to keep my radio where it is for T-Mobile BB but have updated to the 3900 build.
No matter what the bluetooth build or the radio version it just seems to me that talking on a headset is dreadful if it is more than 4 feet away from the device. If for example you have the device in your pocket I still get a lot of static and scratchy voice quality.
The headset I use is the SE HBH660. Is it the general consensus that we just have the live with this?
All view comments and opinions welcome even if you think I am totally wrong :lol:

i can not even get my device to find my BT handsfree.
any ideas

My BA's WLAN isn't bad at all. I can easily get a fully usable connection to my Netgear WGT 624 accesspoint inside my room on the third floor in a concrete building at a distance of appr. 90 meters
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:O Mine won't even pick up the network in my conservatory 10 meters away. I can get low signal in my bedroom approx 3meters above the router.

Re: Bluetooth to headset range
Jiggy said:
Has anyone got to the bottom of the issue with the range for the headset. I have had to keep my radio where it is for T-Mobile BB but have updated to the 3900 build.
No matter what the bluetooth build or the radio version it just seems to me that talking on a headset is dreadful if it is more than 4 feet away from the device. If for example you have the device in your pocket I still get a lot of static and scratchy voice quality.
The headset I use is the SE HBH660. Is it the general consensus that we just have the live with this?
All view comments and opinions welcome even if you think I am totally wrong :lol:
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I use a Motorola 850 same thing. I hate this. I am in the car the phone is in the seat next to me. WORKING PERFECT. I get out of the car and put it in the belt holster BAM cracking static etc. Now the distance from the headset to the phone is greater in the car than on my belt.
I mean Jesus tapdancing Christ. I do not get it. I have tried the headset on the same side of the body trick and everything. :x
O well the fun of new technologies.

Bluetooth headsets range with universal

I notice there is alot of disussion over BT headsets, and several threads adressing range/crackling/'static' noise .
However, none of them clearly identifies several BT headsets which won't have problems with using range with Universal - as our pet gadget definetly have it's own issues performing considerably worster then other BT phones / PDA-s with headsets.
So I would kindly ask you all to identify me few models of BT headsets you are using and which can normally communicate with universal in most common situations without crackling/static/disconnections.
I have used old Nokia HDW-3 - and it performed excellent, I could walk all arround the room, turn my head in any direction, stand in between phone and headset (even with universal) and it would sound flawlesly. However, I got the new headset X-sport - very tiny (less then 8g) and fitting me comfortably, but alas, when I charged it and tried to use it - it crackles even if my Uni is on the desk infront of me and I turn my head away.
Please advice on models I could mail order without fear of showing this flaw.

Dalm said:
I notice there is alot of disussion over BT headsets, and several threads adressing range/crackling/'static' noise .
However, none of them clearly identifies several BT headsets which won't have problems with using range with Universal - as our pet gadget definetly have it's own issues performing considerably worster then other BT phones / PDA-s with headsets.
So I would kindly ask you all to identify me few models of BT headsets you are using and which can normally communicate with universal in most common situations without crackling/static/disconnections.
I have used old Nokia HDW-3 - and it performed excellent, I could walk all arround the room, turn my head in any direction, stand in between phone and headset (even with universal) and it would sound flawlesly. However, I got the new headset X-sport - very tiny (less then 8g) and fitting me comfortably, but alas, when I charged it and tried to use it - it crackles even if my Uni is on the desk infront of me and I turn my head away.
Please advice on models I could mail order without fear of showing this flaw.
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I am using Sony ericsson Stereo Bluetooth Headset HBH-DS970. The coverage and sound quality are excellent. It offers full A2DP funtionality with Windows media Player as well as pocketmusic. The hardware controls on this headset include Forward and previous track button (which really work with my universal with Darkforce Rom), volume control and an OLED display which displays the caller ID (number only). Voice dialing works perfectly. The earpiece looke like normal earphone (no buldging contraption on the ear like most bluetooth headsets.

Bottom Line:
Any radio freq. is line of sight. So if you turn your head and the two radios (Receiving & Transmitting) are not in LOS, it means that the signal needs to bounce off something else, or go through something, (in this case probably your Head ) which causes the signal to fade, hence the interference.

Laubscherc said:
Bottom Line:
Any radio freq. is line of sight. So if you turn your head and the two radios (Receiving & Transmitting) are not in LOS, it means that the signal needs to bounce off something else, or go through something, (in this case probably your Head ) which causes the signal to fade, hence the interference.
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bluetooth range is also sometimes ROM specific

I'm quite aware that line of sight provides optimal radio connectivity. But in theory as well as in my experience, good bluetooth connection should be able to cope with such an obstacle as my head providing that distance is about 50 - 70 cm.
However, I guess that most of Universal users are well aware that our devices have inferior performance to most 'regular' mobiles on the market. Is it location of the BT module or ROM - I don't know - it would be great if it's ROM as it would make it relatively fixable. I'm using QTEK latest shipped ROM 1.30.77 WWE together with R.13.00 radio ROM - but willing to change if it helps.
However, by what I red in other threads on this forum, inferior performance is more likely caused by location of BT module in the device.
Thus some headsets which have better BT transmission and reception (more radiated power and better reception) due to their construction should provide us with better BT performance). Thus the 'field test' is only good pointer which headset to buy or not to buy. For me, BT headset which can't communicate from my belt to my ear when I break line of sight by my hand swinging while I walk - is unusable - I'll much rather wear a wire
I tried my old Nokia HDW-3 and it performed great. On the other hand I tried that X-sport tiny one - it was disaster. Now I'm waiting new examplar of good old Nokia as well as Jabra BT800 - I'll report about the field tests

I've tried two options with my QTEC 9000 and using Windows Media. I bought Motoroka S9: really nice concept with the BT unit embedded in the back of the headband, and the sound quality is excellent, and switched between music and calls easily, the track forward (but not backward) control worked, buttons easy to manipulate. Several drawbacks however: it becomes uncomfortable on your ears after an hour or so due to the the design and the hard plastic used (may depend on the shape of your head) and the phone mic only works through one earpiece not in stereo (this is stated in the documentation, it was not a problem with my setup). The fatal flaw however was the BT range. It worked fine when I hold the phone behind my head, inches away from the headset BT unit, but this was impractical for extended periods of time When I put the phone in my jacket pocket or shoulder bag, the continual breakup of the signal made it unuseable. The phone signal performed better but for music this has very limited success and certainly doesn't work as a mobile device, which is sort of the point.
I then bought a Sony Ericsson HBH DS200. The range problem is resolved, music streams fine with my device in my pocket, shoulder bag or briefcase. I can walk around a room and listen to music and make calls no problem, although the music signal drops out when blocked by my body and the distance is about 2m or more. The swithching back to music after taking or making a call is a bit flaky, sometimes i need to reset the devise again to reestablish the connection, but sometimes it works OK. No caller ID on the headset, no volume control, no track back/forward, so it's a bit basic, but after the previous experience, I'm just happy it works. The supplied earbuds are good, and you can unplug them and use anything else you want with a 3.5 jack.
Hope this helps.

Jabra BT800 Jabra BT250V Plantronics A510
The Jabra BT800 (or 810, whatever it was with the LCD) would not get very loud with my Universal. It also wasn't very secure. The LCD would have been cool though...
The Jabra BT250v was very secure, could get plenty loud (most times), but had crappy reception, and worse reception when/if an SD card was inserted. When I say crappy reception, i mean bad. At arms length the headset started having static. As far as I could tell it was only I who heard it, but when I started hearing static, the person on the other side couldn't really hear me.
Plantronics A510 is the bomb!! (in a good way). I have only had it for a few days, but it is super lightweight, gets plaenty loud enough, and I can walk almost 30 feet form the Universal and keep a connection. AND thats while I have an SD card in! It's less than $50 on amazon and is their #1 selling product! It has 1700+ reviews on the site, which I found impressive.

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The Jabra BT800 (or 810, whatever it was with the LCD) would not get very loud with my Universal. It also wasn't very secure. The LCD would have been cool though...
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I can confirm the issues with the volume for noisy conditions. In that case I have to manually raise the volume on the headset.
In my silent office the volume's just fine, but yes, it could be higher by default.
I never experienced problems with the range or any disturbances.
With the Universal on my desk I can even wander around on my balcony, which means being about 4 meters away and having no direct line of sight.
With a direct line of sight static gets noticable at about 8 meters, which is living room couch to kitchen sink
I got the BT800 from a good friend who felt uncomfortable wearing it and he told me, that he experienced range problems if the phone was in his left pocket and HS on his right ear. He was using a, mmh, i believe a wizard at that time and the behaviour didn't change after switching to a btv 500 or 250.
This brought me to the theory that range problems in case of small distances are closely related to the belly size of the user.

EvilJogga said:
This brought me to the theory that range problems in case of small distances are closely related to the belly size of the user.
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PRICELESS!!!!

BT stereo headset

Anyone got a BT stereo headset they can recommend?
I was wondering perhaps if there was such a one that could be used as a good stereo multimedia headset, and converted to mono earpiece for use in gps navigation?

Have the Moto S9-HDs and they work great.

thanks kareem.
I was looking at the Plantronics Voyager 855. In a review I read the S9 sounds better. So I may now change my mind! Does the S9 work ok as a standard BT for answering phone?

I use this ones since some time ago and they sound quite well (Not new model of course)
Sony HBH-DS970

Moto S9-HD
Ok, I bought a Moto S9-HD (£10 on eBay).
WOW! I had been using HFP on my blade (obviously for navigation, not music!! I had to use wired for music.)
But this A2DP is great.
I can now cut my lawn without precarious wires dangling! (as long as I do it within 6 hours..!)
The S9 has great volume - for once I can switch it up 'too' loud; with my blade and jabra BT2020 (<- very disappointing) I always had them on 'full blast' and then had to switch the Uni up.
The S9 is two sided - it can do phone calls and it can also play music (and 3rd dimension can also remote control the music).
I expect I'm only ranting on what A2DP can do, rather than the S9... and am sure the DS970 and Voyager 855 has the same properties. [NB, a difference between the S9 and 855 is how they sit in your ears... unsure about DS970 (orb?)].
Ok, bottom line. If you have an HTC Uni, get an A2DP headset.
No-one knows what's hidden in your pocket as you can totally control it from your headset (AVRCP). I can skip tracks, go back, pause, change volume and also answer calls (HSP)
And then of course you can totally blow people away by taking you Uni out your pocket and letting them know what it can do . Doesn't matter it's big, as long as you can carry it... and us blokes (hrmm, and capable ladies, excuse me enigma1nz ) are able to put it in a pocket (hrmm, handbag) etc. [nb, not to tell a funny story, but I have found that handbags/ ladies/ men/ pockets are all interchangeable these days.. yes, men have handbags!.. but I digress and wish to stop digging this bit hole I've found myself in ]
I'm unsure under UK law if I can use my S9 in my car (just for phone / navi), even though it's better than my other BT earpieces... anyone know? (Because under UK law you're not allowed to obscure your hearing by wearing headphones whilst driving... yet you are advised to use a handsfree kit otherwise you will be prosecuted)
Thanks kareeem & orb3000.

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[NB, a difference between the S9 and 855 is how they sit in your ears... unsure about DS970 (orb?)].
Thanks kareeem & orb3000.
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DS970 are quite confortable and very very light.