Battery Issues - now resolved...I Hope! - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General

Hi,
I recently had a problem with my XDA2s. I though I'd post what happened here so people could a) Perhaps explain to me what the hell happened, b) know what to do if they have a similar problem.
I took my O2 XDA2s out of my pocket and it wouldn't turn on. My immediate reaction was to hard reset it. This also had no effect. I even tried entering boot loader mode out of sheer desperation. It appeared it was D E A D.
I tried putting it on charge and it still would not turn on. Fearing I was in for a trip to my local O2 shop and the usual "umm....ahh....thats strange....replacement time will be 3-4 working years" etc. I started to compose an Email to O2 support. I had left the device on charge.
Low and behold after 5 minutes the device pinged at me. i looked over to see and it had come back on. It had hard reset. It seems something had caused both batterys to *Completely* Discharge. It took 5 mins of charging just to get enough power to come on (is my best guess).
Has anyone had this problem? Can anyone explain why? It's charging now very very slowly. Hopefully when its charged it will be ok.
Lewis

Had the same thing on my XDA2. Thought the thing was knackered but it cam back to life after a few minutes on charge. I've noticed that my XDA2 will not switch off by itself when set to do so ("Turn off device if not used for" and I have it on 2 minutes). The thing just doesn't switch off
The setting to lower the backlight works fine, as does the Alarm in the morning so I think the timer is working.
Any clues anyone?

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Dead P3300 due to battery?

Hi all,
My two year old HTC P3300 has gone dead and I suspect it could be the battery. How could I know for sure? When it was new I upgraded to WM6 and apllied the corrupt SD patch because it was crashing sometimes when I would access the SD.
After that it has been working flawlessly for over a year except for battery life which has been getting shorter and shorter for the past few months. I turned off bluetooth and wifi and still the P3300 was only able to go for about 24H with normal usage (just four or five calls, a few reminders and no GPS).
All of a sudden a couple of weeks ago it started just turning off by itself when using simple things like card games. I could feel the battery was pretty warm and pressing the power button would do nothing. Only a soft reset would work.
Then a few days ago it finally decided to die. I was playing Freecell with the battery at about 80% and it turned off by itself but now even soft reset won't work. When I plug in the charger the orange light wont turn on althoug the battery does get a little warm.
The only thing it will let me do is start a hard reset but nothing much happens. It says to press send if I want to return the P3300 to the original factory settings. I accept and for about one seccond it shows:
Format FAT partition!
Format complete!
Then I get the HTC boot screen and some red letters that say:
IPL 1.36.0001
SPL 1.36.0000
and then nothing else happens. It just stays like that for a couple of minutes until it turns off by itself. After that I can't even do a hard reset unless I put the phone on the charger for a couple of hours.
To me this looks like it could be an exhausted battery but how can I confirm this without buying a new battery? I checked with a tester and I get 3.07V DC but I can't seem to get any amp reading (maybe I'm doing it wrong).
Please any ideas would be welcome. I love my P3300 and I hate the idea of having to change.
lolailo54 said:
Hi all,
My two year old HTC P3300 has gone dead and I suspect it could be the battery. How could I know for sure? When it was new I upgraded to WM6 and apllied the corrupt SD patch because it was crashing sometimes when I would access the SD.
After that it has been working flawlessly for over a year except for battery life which has been getting shorter and shorter for the past few months. I turned off bluetooth and wifi and still the P3300 was only able to go for about 24H with normal usage (just four or five calls, a few reminders and no GPS).
All of a sudden a couple of weeks ago it started just turning off by itself when using simple things like card games. I could feel the battery was pretty warm and pressing the power button would do nothing. Only a soft reset would work.
Please any ideas would be welcome. I love my P3300 and I hate the idea of having to change.
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Hi!
I'm experiencing the same problems...
Tried new rom, sdhc update cab, format sd to fat32, try another sd, etc...
Seems that the phone works more or less well if there's no sd card (maybe because it need more juice from the battery?), and even better, if I can say that for a phone..., without sim card too.
It worked more or less today only with sim card on it, but when there was an sd card it keeps blocking, hanging and turning off with difficult turn on situation.
Can someone help us?
Thanks!
Hello both.
It can be frustrating waiting for help (and you might have found an alternative solution) but I'll say what I can.
If your Artemis can be operated more normally whilst charging but fails quickly under battery power, that certainly suggests a battery problem.
Batteries are consumables but hard to test (although some shops can) - try your local retailer?
My spare battery is a Sanyo ARTE160 rated 3.7V 1,200mAh.
On the reverse, 4.2VDC is printed amongst chinese characters and it actually measures 4.16V off load. I'd think 3V far too low.
There's clever technology behind the management of these LiOn batteries because both over charge and over discharge can damage them. Their life is more determined by battery chemistry and charge/discharge cycles than age.
One caution - measure voltage by all means...
BUT
DO NOT measure current with a test meter to a battery - particularly not a LiOn battery - because it amounts to a short circuit. Current can be so high as to blow the meter fuse and in cases of sustained short circuit or over charging, the battery can swell or even burst dangerously.
I'd think a replacement battery (via e-bay?) far less expensive than paying repairers to confirm the battery was the only problem.
Hope this helps
Hi!
I bought a replacement battery from Ebay.
All seems to be OK yesterday at night until today by noon.
Today, in the middle of a phone call, the phone stalls.
After a reboot and some hours later, the phone keeps crashing and crashing and, sometimes, it doesn´t turn on...
Will try now to upload an original rom and see what it does.
Regards!
This might have happened because difficulties whilst using an impaired battery left a legacy of part-saved data, registry and file corruption problems.
The outcome would be good to know because battery problems can/will affect us all eventually.
Also, a brand new battery can need a few charge/discharge cycles to bring it up to best condition.
I also got a new batery from ebay and unfortunately it still doesn't work. Behaviour is exactly the same as before.
I suppose this means it is hardware related. Do you suggest opening it up to see if there is anything loose or broken that could be resoldered?
Thanks,
My p3300 went blank and I had the take the battery out to switch it on again. Took it to HTC and they had to replace the insides of the phone. When I got is back the batt. Only lasted for a day and it use to work for 4 days.

TP2 starting to do strange things on standby

I thought it just a one off, but it's now happened a few times, I leave my TP2 over night, it show 80 or 90% battery, then when I get up in the morning and check my phone, it says there is an error to report with Opera.exe then when it's cleared the battery is low.
and now twice I have gone to check my phone and found it's turned off completely, then when I turned it on it says there is 10% battery, when the night before it had been charging in the car and before gong to be had shown at least 90%.
Any ideas ???? have I got a faulty battery?
I have quite a similar problem. Sometimes, my tp2 won't wake up after charging. I have to do a soft reset with the stylus to get it running again. My battary doesn't get drained though... don't know what the problem could be...
ir803 said:
I thought it just a one off, but it's now happened a few times, I leave my TP2 over night, it show 80 or 90% battery, then when I get up in the morning and check my phone, it says there is an error to report with Opera.exe then when it's cleared the battery is low.
and now twice I have gone to check my phone and found it's turned off completely, then when I turned it on it says there is 10% battery, when the night before it had been charging in the car and before gong to be had shown at least 90%.
Any ideas ???? have I got a faulty battery?
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I think the device has a few isssues which we hope the WM 6.5 upgrage will resolve. I have a vodafone TP2 and anytime i slide open the keypad i get an error message "cprog.exe has stopped working". I am sure other users out there are facing similar issues.
interesting. Mt T-Mo version (that I've had since August 14th) hasn't had a single problem like that... yet (fingers crossed)
last night's shutdown happened while the charger was actually plugged in and the charge light was on, this morning I unplugged it and the phone was off, did a reset to start it and found there was only 10% battery life.
VERY ODD.
Sadly I think it's unlikely that HTC and Vodafone will be able to come to any aggreement to let us officially upgrade to WM 6.5. There's an firmware upgrade on the vodafone site but there's confusion over what it does when the version number is out of sequence to what is installed already.
I've seen the touchflo3D 2.5 youtube vids which look good BUT even if we could get an official release Vodafone will probably want to mess up the icons and colour to brand it again, just for us the end user to spend hours trying to undo their screwing around.
I'm not very optamistic about an upgrade amd I don't want to start installing cooked roms yet as the TP2 is still under warranty and it's my business phone.
Same Here
Mine sometimes doesnt charge however its plugged in & it shuts down itself & keeps restarting automatically with some other similar above issues!! HTC has to know that!
no such things in my pro2
Just had the very same thing happen to me this morning, so it's good to know I'm not alone.
Yesterday, I found my phone was dead, though I was sure it had enough battery life. I put it on the charger and turned it back on.
It was on the charger all night; the battery light was green. When I unplugged it from the charger, I tried to turn it on [from stand-by/locked mode], and the battery light kept flashing, but nothing would happen.
I only was able to get it on by plugging it back into the charger. When it came on, it had 60% battery life, even though it supposedly had 100% just two minutes before (and wasn't even on).
So thanks for mentioning it.

TMO TP2 - Phone Powering Off on Own and Not Turning Back On - FYI

I had thought I was one of the many SOD sufferers out there, but I'm not 100% sure now based on the symptoms that are happening with my phone versus others, so I wanted to create a new thread and just let you know what happened to me (and what is occurring right now).
I ordered my TP2 the day it was released through T-Mobile. I'd gone two or three weeks without having any issues. I didn't really install too many CABs on there (with the exception of updating Bing, mobile Netflix, Astraware Solitaire, the battery increment fix, and TouchLockPro).
I put the phone on the charger one night, and the next morning, I clicked the Power button to unlock it. It vibrated, indicating it was powering on (versus just unlocking). I thought, Okay, no big deal. Maybe I shut it off by accident.
The next day, it was off the charger, and I clicked on the Power button to unlock, and it wouldn't turn on at all. (This is where my issue seems to differ from the SOD sufferers... their phones are making noise and actually functioning, but their screens are black, so they can't really do anything with the phone until they reset.)
I panicked, but shoved the phone back on the charger. Thought maybe the battery was dead (though I knew the last I looked at it, it was at 82%). Nothing happened. The light did not light up to indicate it was charging or fully charged.
I took the phone off the charger and pressed the Power button again. The red light flickered off and on, but nothing.
I plugged it back into the charger. Kept pressing the power button. Nothing. Then suddenly it turned on. It worked fine.
This happened maybe one more time before I left for vacation two weeks ago. The phone seemed to work just fine until about two days into my vacation. Then that started happening again.
But this time, it was worse. The phone would turn back on, and as soon as it got to the passcode screen to log into the phone, it would shut off. Sometimes, it'd let me get two numbers in, but most of the time, I couldn't even get one digit in before it shut off.
This would happen about six times in a row, and then the phone would just flat out not turn on for an hour or so.
As the vacation wore on (it was tiring, as our itinerary was on our phone, so there were times we didn't know where we needed to be because I couldn't get the phone on... I had a hard copy in the room, but that would mean having to travel back to the room to get it, losing an hour or two, so it wasn't worth it), it started to get worse. More times of getting to the passcode screen. More times of it shutting off before I could enter the number. Then it got to the point where I couldn't turn it on for four or five hours at a time.
No matter what I tried, the phone continued to "die". Everything that seemed to work turned out to be a coincidence.
What I tried:
1. Reset button.
2. Pulling the battery out.
3. Pulling the SD out.
4. Pulling the SIM out. (Would boot up the phone sans SIM. Then put it back in and boot it up again. I THOUGHT this worked, as I went from last Wednesday to yesterday with it working, but alas, it occurred again, even without the SIM in).
5. There were times I even squeezed the phone a certain way because it seemed like the phone responded more when I held it tighter.
6. I was wary that something I installed (like TouchLockPro) was causing the problem, so I upgraded to latest version, still occurred, then removed.
7. Believe me, there was a ridiculous number of OTHER bizarre things I tried (not including a TP2 voodoo doll), but I'm too embarrassed to mention those!
Outside of formatting the phone, I had exhausted all of the possibilities. I even logged on here while I was away to find out if anything had changed with SOD, and it seemed like nothing new occurred.
I had had it when the problem started again yesterday, so I went to a local T-Mobile retailer. Imagine their surprise! The battery was swapped out, and that didn't change anything. Removed the SIM, removed the SD, it occurred over and over again (which was great! I was actually able to prove the issue).
The man I showed it to called Support, and Support was dumbfounded too, so T-Mobile is replacing the phone. I should have it in a few days.
After all that, the phone came back last night. I know it'll die sooner or later, so it's best I'm getting a new one.
I think I probably would have been fine about this experience except it occurred while I was on vacation. Like I said, it had our itinerary. It was our gateway to the pets at home (texts, emails, pictures). It was really our only connection to the outside world. Granted, when you're on vacation, you don't want that, but I definitely want to know our pets are still alive! I also like to know where I'm supposed to eat! It was definitely a black cloud over our trip. (Thank you, though, to xda-developers, for keeping me sane when I DID have access!)
I am still pretty sure it's hardware, based on everything I've done, read, and seen over the past couple weeks. I was hesitant about setting up the phone the way I have it now, but I need to prove to myself that it's faulty hardware first before blaming applications.
But I wanted to share my story (albeit long) with everyone out there. People may be having the same issue but don't want to post, so if you are, you're not alone!

[Q] Defy randomly dying

My defy is barely 2 months old, i am running CM7.1 since it was released and its quite smooth with no problems till now.
But recently i went to a remote place (i made another post somewhere) and switched SIM cards, i switched back SIM again now. Since then, my defy randomly dies sometimes while holding it and most times while in my pocket. My battery percent looks fine (i wiped it just in case).
This happened to me several times, i suspected the battery was loose, so at the beginning i reinserted my battery 2-3 times and it would start again. But now even after reinserting the battery it refuses to turn on, i usually need to connect it to a charger (or USB) and after the LED light turns on, i can switch it back on, disconnect it and use it again.. until it dies again randomly.
I tried inserting a piece of paper as padding to prevent the battery from moving, but didnt help much. When i shake it a bit, it dies too, so it might be a loose battery or some hardware problem, but the reason im baffled is why i cant turn it on again without connecting it to a charger, and also why it dies randomly when i leave it alone and didnt even touch it. Also, i never dropped it even once or mishandle it at all to make the battery be loose, when i insert tha battery, it still snaps/click into place just like when it was new.
ANy help suggestions will be appreciated. Sorry for the long post, just wanted to provide a detailed account.
I found an almost similar problem but no answer here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109429
Firstly, check if your setVsel settings is all ok and not too low down specially the voltages settings. If you're not using SetVsel, then check your 2nd-ini in system - overclock settings, see if it enable and check those individual settings which might be too low that caused the phone under power/voltage and triggered self shut down.
Another option to narrow down your issue is trying another battery. Buy or borrow from a friend. If the case of random shut down still occur, then it might be hardware issue in your Defy mainboard. BUT.. I would flash it to another rom to make 100% sure before sending it back to the shop.
Thanks a lot for the reply, im not sure if its an overclock or vsel issue because it even dies sometime while booting up if i move it around, so im guessing battery or mainboard issue?? Ill have to check with another battery first then... hoping its not a mainboard issue coz the nearest service centre is miles away from where i live

TA-1043 dead over night

Hey everyone,
has anyone experienced something similar and was able to fix it?
My TA-1043 has previously turned off overnight, or simply didn't charge occasionally. This behavior was reported by others as well, and wasn't really that much of a problem for me.
However today not only did it turn off, it also does not turn on or accept a charge anymore at all. I tried several different cables and cleaned out the charging port, but it just will not charge at all from either a power bank or a wall plug.
I ordered a replacement charging board, but if that doesn't work and no one else has had this problem i'm gonna have to get a new phone i reckon... (warranty only covers one year and the place i got it from charged extra for extended warranty)
And yes i also tried holding the power button for 30 seconds, does nothing as expected...
So, has anyone had this problem and knows what causes it?
replaced the charging board and now it works again, let's see if that was the root cause... interestingly, the battery was at 50% charge when it started working again, so i actually believe it's something to do with the mainboard
It's a Software Problem
The same thing happened to my phone recently. What I did was to to click on the power, volume up, and volume down for 40 seconds. It was one of the longest 40 seconds in my life. It turned on and the battery was at 49%. It worked fine after that. I don't know why it happened but the problem was a software one not hardware even though it didn't want to charge anywhere and was always seemingly off.

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