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Has anyone ever successfully installed a .NetCF on an XDA?
Am i so stupid and the XDA is one of the new .Net-build-in PPC's?
also i tryed for a whole day to connect to my XDA with my VS.Net2003 via activesync, as you may have guessed without any luck.
I dont want to use eVC, when the next generation of Languages(C#) and IDE's is already at hand
OK,
i spend the last 3 days looking for a solution and i think i finally found the reason. As far as i understand Microsoft, the Phone edition of PocketPC 2002 does not support the .NetCF. :x
But, n developer conference 2002 in London i know that i was in a "hands-on-lab", where i had a first look at the .NetCF - with a Phone-PPC (prototype by Compaq, if i remember correctly)
P.S.: Could please anybody say something about that, even if it is: "Yes, Ur right - no .Net for XDA" or (better) "You are just to stupid to install.."
thanks
Now i'm even more confused:
I took a look at my PPC-Version string and it say's:
3.0.11171 Build 11178
witch means, that it's no Phone-Edition (has Version number 3.0),
that means it should be compatible to install .NetCF.
Yet i was not able to install and im getting a little angry (but cannot decide if i should be angry over me or O2 or Microsoft).
I really was looking forward to an opportunity to use C# in a real application and not just that sample-code-then-garbage projects.
Frost_28 said:
Now i'm even more confused:
I took a look at my PPC-Version string and it say's:
3.0.11171 Build 11178
witch means, that it's no Phone-Edition (has Version number 3.0),
that means it should be compatible to install .NetCF.
Yet i was not able to install and im getting a little angry (but cannot decide if i should be angry over me or O2 or Microsoft).
I really was looking forward to an opportunity to use C# in a real application and not just that sample-code-then-garbage projects.
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Shouldn't be a problem to use .Net CF on the XDA. A friend of mine has been doing it for months. Seems like you have a really old ROM though, ever thought about upgrading?
thanks for the reply.
My rom version is 3.14.16 GER, this should be the latest (German) Version.
I did it! Huhu, yeah!
For everyone else having problems:
with Visual Studio.Net 2003(BETA) installed,
take these files:
C:\Programm Files\Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003\CompactFrameworkSDK\v1.0.5000\Windows CE\arm\*.CAB
and copy them to the Temp directory on your device, then simply execute them.
It's as easy as this and i can't imagine, why i had problems in the first place
That's odd - the VS.Net 2003 beta just downloaded the .NetCF CAB direct my XDA the first time I hit deploy with the Pocket PC selected instead of the emulator - no problem, no fuss.
However, note this: I just tried downloading the official .NetCF deployable runtime from the MS site and when I run it, it says that my device (the XDA) isn't supported.
However, I see you've already found the solution - just copy the ARM CAB to the XDA and execute it - it installs in seconds with not so much as a single question.
Good luck with the CF - we've been using it for months and it's brilliant!
MikeS.
Thank you - and you're right: it is great!
I work with it for about 2 weeks now and have already achieved more with it, than i would have with eVC in 1 month. Also is C# a really cool language. It's fun to use it.
However, that VS2003Beta didn't deploy the CF to my XDA automatically is because i (still) can't get the connection over ActiveSync work. That also means, that i can debug only with the emulator - without a radio.
Until now it was no real problem, i just started with the non-phone-part of my App. Right now i started the development of the Phone-part and i have to guess some functionality or just use so many try catch-blocks that it slows my development a bit down.
Any suggestions what i could do to get the connection running?
i just got my self an O2 XDA Orbit and i'm wondering what are the best apps and roms to have. i know it's a lil up to preference - i'm interested in the opinions out there. I already picked myself up copies of opera and cardexport 2 (i used the palm version and was very impressed). My main concerns is that i have previously been told that a firewall and a virus scanner were needed. Is this true?
Also i have read a lil bug the sd card issue. how do i know it has struck me? is the fix i have seen good?
i'd also love to be able to play fps games on the device when i am away. goes anyone know of any good review sites and/or shops? i also love playing GPL (general public license) games on my linux machine (no windows machines in this house. may have to, begrudingly, get a cheap laptop if i get problems with the device) so if there are any good free ones i will take a look.
I think that will cover it for now. if i get any more questions i will post and thanks for your thought guys and gals
if you feel progressive you'll start by joining the touchflo club using B&B4 rom (-->here<--). that might be a bit ...well, progressive.. if you just got the device, but hey, you got it for playing around like the rest of us, right?
before you flash a non-original rom to your device, make sure you read this thread. i recommend to ALWAYS use USPL before flashing something.
soardiac said:
if you feel progressive you'll start by joining the touchflo club using B&B4 rom (-->here<--). that might be a bit ...well, progressive.. if you just got the device, but hey, you got it for playing around like the rest of us, right?
before you flash a non-original rom to your device, make sure you read this thread. i recommend to ALWAYS use USPL before flashing something.
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whats the difference between B&B4 and the official wm5 and wm6 roms? i do have the o2 wm6 update rom but i haven't installed it (coz i hadn't looked up how yet). so the phone is pretty much stock.
I bought the phone as a work tool but as i'm a techie and techie's get bored and wanna tweak stuff there is room for tweaking
The B&B4 ROM is WM6 but has extra features such as touchflo: like the HTC touch, certain finger movements make access to contacts, messages, music easier and finger scrolling like the iphone. It also has a much cooler look.
For WM6 and thus probably B&B4 there is a reg hack to reduce CPU usage: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=308792
To put a new ROM on your device, It is recommended to flash with USPL unless it is from your manufacturer and for your country. USPL allows other ROMs to be downloaded without disabling your device. I could describe it as a sim-unlock for ROMs, if you use a sim from your carrier, all is good, if not, you cant use the phone. A little more serious than a simlock though, if you flash the wrong ROM without USPL, it could damage the phone/bootloader so as to make it a 'brick'.
To flash a ROM, make sure device has more than 50% battery. Soft-reset it and wait for it to load. Plug into usb port and wait for activesync to recognise. Run USPL and a command prompt will load, wait for it to finish (~5 mins). A new window will open with a picture of the device, tick boxes, click next then update... A progress bar will let you know how far the download has got to. Once complete, the device will reboot to wondows mobile. It is now temporarily CID unlocked with a SuperCID. Now run the exe for the ROM you wish to flash. The same kind of interface will appear as before, tick boxes, next, update... Watch progressbar eagerly (wipe drool off mouth) and let it complete. Your device will reset with new ROM.
If at any point a problem occurs, aslong as you see windows or a multicoloured screen (the bootloader) you can do this (whole) process again to complete installation.
Hope this rather messy post helps you out a bit. As to applications, somewhere on the FTP site I think is pocket doom. BEWARE: Some files on the FTP site are viruses, not detectable by antivirus software.
Pete
wicked and that leads me on to my Anti virus question. is that any anti virus tools for WM5/6? iirc i have seen some pc side ones that scan the phone if it's connected and the app is setup for it. also is a firewall advised? are there any?
There are a few antiviruses for PDAs, but TBH the only viruses I have heard of for them are proof-of-concept so I doubt anyone really bothers.
If you really want an antivirus, I've tried this before and it seems to be ok http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/airscannermobileantivirus.shtml
When I mentioned viruses on the FTP site, I meant for your home PC!
oh right. i run linux so it's pretty much impossible to catch a virus infection. although i spose caution would be needed if i needed to install windows for something. i'm trying to install stuff straight to the device from the net atm using cabs and i have a tool that strips the cabs out of the exe files so all looks good there.
one question that has just crossed my mind (coz i just tried to do it and couldn't). Is there a way to install cabs once they have been save to the eeprom or memory card? i checked out "File explorer" for an option and didn't find one. "remove application's" seems to be remove only so, i'm a lil lost as to what to use. If i hit open in the d/l dialog in opera or PIE it installs them. Any tips?
You should be able to just tap them in flie explorer and they will run... You'll get a notification asking whether you want to run and then the usual installer screen will come up asking where etc...
i have to admit i didn't try that. i was thinking too far outside the box
thanks for all the help so far btw
No probs, I'm not an expert, computers and techy things just seem to come naturally to me!
same here but i'm known to have moments of thinking too abstractly and after using linux for so long i have kinda gotten used to having to think to get most of the things i do done.
i just saw some screen shots of B&B 4 and i do have to say "how good does that look?" i can't seem to find a feature list. i found it the other day. seems to have vanished in to the depths of the board tho. any clues?
Well I've got B&B4 and I must say It's probably the best ROM you can use on your Orbit... The black and blue go really well with the black and blue (duh) of the Orbit...
Heres the post for B&B4 with some screenies and the programs list: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321503
It's basically WM6 based, with TouchFlo making it a bit like an iphone where you can use your finger to scroll through stuff. Other finger friendly interfaces like the new today screen interface (with quick contacts access, programs, weather, time, phone profiles etc), htc audio manager, new skin for wmp, some very useful utilities, etc etc
Like WM6, and in the (edited) post I made earlier, you should carry out the reg hack to reduce cpu usage, other than that, and needing a separate cab for live messenger, it is _thebest_
If you decide to flash it, remember to use USPL...
i may do. i think i'm gonna check out my options first. i don;t wanna mess about with it too much because it is spose to be a tool for work. but seeingas realvnc works pretty well i think i'm pretty much covered for my objectives in the software department except for GPS software. money is no object there. i want the best. i heard tomtom was a bit unstable (from a treo 750w user) so if that's true i'm gonna stay away from it
Tomtom seems to work fine on mine so far ...
As a 'working' tool
I've tried all the flavours of roms out there - but didn't like the touchflo stuff on B&B4... I need my today screen to have my calendar and messages on it, so the big clock is no relevance, and the touch stuff is gimicky.
I'm running O2 WM6 on mine, with a few tweaks. It's definitely most stable, and quite fast, although I run batterymeter to overclock to 240-ish mhz for a bit more slickness.
I also use todayagenda to replace the calendar plugin as its far more useful.
I have a synchronisation with my corporate Exchange server for office mail, and route my personal mail throuh an excelllent free imap service at www.axigenmail.com - simple imap servers, no frills, works excellently.
TomTom 6.02 or 6.03 work absolutely fine, no issues whatsoever.
I've just started using SPB PhoneTools on my todayscreen to give me a decent quickdial in the car... I've just replaced my car stereo with a Sony MEX-BT2500 unit (£90 on ebay) that gives full bluetooth handsfree integrationand streaming with minimal fuss.
My Dash can only run one java app at a time. Is there an alternative midlet manager that runs one app in the front and suspends others?
My old i930 (WM2003) is very convenient on this regard: I can switch from gmail to operamini without having to close/restart the other.
I have tried all the midlet manager I could find, but none of them work on Dash.
Currently I am using the trial version of IBM's WebSphere Everyplace Micro Environment without any problems.
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/wireless/weme/
First thank you very much for the info.
However, what a waste of time. Had to download a 45MB file, only to find that 4MB is what I need. It is very inconvenient to install and use. Very buggy too. Cannot even suspend and restore a single app, forget about running one and suspending the other(s).
Much worse than the built-in manager.
Am I missing something?
Even my old wm2003 smartphone can run couple java apps at the same time, why the latest WM6 cannot?
Again, thank you for the info.
See http://www.pxdxa.com/read.php?tid=36130 for a complete list of a lot of other Smartphone-compliant JVM's.
I'll publish a BIG roundup of all these JVM's some time.
Interesting, I had tried all the 6, and many more, but none of them worked on my Dash. I thought it was because of WM6, so I flashed it back to WM5, same thing!
Coretek is a mess, all I get is a tiny window that does not show the apps installed.
Esmertrc, Jeodek and Tao are basically the same thing, like the one in Dash.
JBlendFullScreen is different, but the keys are totally messed up.
hi is it possible ot ssh to the hermes, i do it with my ipot and its so much easier than finding the cable!
i have winscp what else do i need?
whats the user/pass to ssh also
thanks
Windows mobile doesn't have a ssh server built in. So, I'm guessing that if you could install one then you could ssh to it. I have never tried it. ssh seems to be more of a unix/linux thing, wich I am guessing the ipod os would be since it is an apple product.
Good luck. I hope this might give you something to search for.
Let us know how it goes.
bummer oh well thanks for the heads up
twiggy626 said:
hi is it possible ot ssh to the hermes, i do it with my ipot and its so much easier than finding the cable!
i have winscp what else do i need?
whats the user/pass to ssh also
thanks
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I don't use it either, but from a quick Google-Search, it seems there are quite a few alternatives that can be used. For instance, PuTTY has released an open source of PocketPuTTY. I have used PuTTY on a desktop, and if their PPC offering is as good, this must be a nice package. You can read more about it HERE.
Also, in February last year, ZaTelnet released a free SSH tunneling and port-forwarding program for Windows Mobile devices that supports the .NET Compact Framework 2.0. "ZaTunnel" boasts facilities for secure remote administration of Unix and other servers via Telnet, FTP, or VNC using mobile devices, according to the company. See more HERE
So it certainly looks like it CAN be done. This is what turned up on the first page of hits returned by Google. I'm quite sure there are MANY other applications available for SSH by now ... one just needs to do a quick search (and a lengthy read) to learn what options exist, and which one suits them the best.
Hope this helps,
-pvs
pvs said:
I don't use it either, but from a quick Google-Search, it seems there are quite a few alternatives that can be used.
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He is asking for a way to ssh to the Hermes,
the solutions you mention are to ssh from the phone...
He needs a ssh server to be run on the phone, the only thing i have found is the OpenSSH for Windows CE
Unfortunately for me it doesn't work... :-(
Mr_Gee said:
He is asking for a way to ssh to the Hermes,
the solutions you mention are to ssh from the phone...
He needs a ssh server to be run on the phone, the only thing i have found is the OpenSSH for Windows CE
Unfortunately for me it doesn't work... :-(
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Once you have a usable sshd server running in your Hermes, what then? AFAIK there is no CLI (i.e. "DOS prompt") available in Windows Mobile. Maybe there's a port of Cygwin to WM.
Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam
SamJolly said:
Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528880
Works and tastes great! I just posted the Logmein fix on my other thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524676
It's free, it's effective even on EDGE and it just works with Mac, Windows, or Ubuntu.
SamJolly said:
Hi Folks,
How realistic is this? Ie to remotely log in to a server and do something sensible like restart a web instance on IIS or whatever or am I being too ambitious? Some colleagues think I should stick with netbooks/laptops.
If realistic what would you recommend ie RDP, LogMeIn etc...?
Thanks,
Sam
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I frequently use RDP on my TP2 to access servers (and LogMeIn for workstations). RDP is a joy to use with the high resolution on the TP2. When I first started using it, I tried impressing my girlfriend with its capabilities, but she didn't give a ****. So, it's nice to finally tell someone who does!
I always though RDP was a little anemic. Is it still that way? One of the best things about logmein was the ability to set it and forget it even with dynamic IP addressing. Also it's easy to install for people that need help on their desktops or servers. The other applications I have tried are PCAnywhere which is nice but a pain if dynamic IP is present, also RealVNC which worked great but had issues with performance as well as interoperability between OSs. Any others out there that might be nice? I need to connect with OSX, Windows XP/Vista, and also Ubuntu.
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I always though RDP was a little anemic. Is it still that way? One of the best things about logmein was the ability to set it and forget it even with dynamic IP addressing. Also it's easy to install for people that need help on their desktops or servers. The other applications I have tried are PCAnywhere which is nice but a pain if dynamic IP is present, also RealVNC which worked great but had issues with performance as well as interoperability between OSs. Any others out there that might be nice? I need to connect with OSX, Windows XP/Vista, and also Ubuntu.
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Possibly getting a bit OT? but RDP is certainly excellent for any server administration task, and it works well on the TP2, which was the original question.
Folks,
Thanks for this. Very reassuring......
Brynweb, I loved your comment about your girl friend. I had the same issue with my wife...!! It is just a mobile.... ! No it is much more....
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I frequently use RDP on my TP2 to access servers (and LogMeIn for workstations). RDP is a joy to use with the high resolution on the TP2. When I first started using it, I tried impressing my girlfriend with its capabilities, but she didn't give a ****. So, it's nice to finally tell someone who does!
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Thanks,
Sam
Its friggen convenient when I'm out somewhere and realise OMG I forgot to tell Media Center to record XYZ. I can remote into home and schedule it.
Kinda impressive to see the Vista orb 5mm high!
I've been using RDP since my I got my Universal. Its great. Love it! Just make sure you have your stylus handy!
I use SSH to connect to linux and windows machines. In addition I tunnel VNC if I want to have the full desktop instead of a command line.