Related
This thread discusses Linux for HTC Diamond and HTC Raphael
User resources
To get started with android real quick use this site http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelDonut
Further information on progress with Linux and Android and help can be found at the Raphael Linux wiki page.
Developer resources
The wiki of the htc-linux.org project has all the required uptodate research information http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki
If you want to contribute in the kernel porting project, please use this wiki.
The latest kernel code for Raphael, Diamond (and the other msm7xxxA devices) can be found in the htc-msm-2.6.27 branch of the linuxtogo.org git repository.
To view my signature, click my nickname to view the profile and then 'about me'
_______________________________
original post:
Hi,
Would be nice if somebody could try and test if the kaiser linux kernel boots on their diamond. Here's what you need
http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/
It has a small documentation but here's what you need to do again:
Get haret.exe, default.txt, zImage and angstrom-console on your diamond into the same folder, run haret.exe and tap run.
edit: the link above points to a website with kernel builds for the kaiser (msm7200). since diamond has msm7201A, it would be better to build directly from the android-msm-2.6.25 branch which has the halibut machine type. halibut is also an msm7x00A. there are some differences between the A and non-A msms.
google git is at
git.android.com
checkout the branch android-msm-2.6.25 ( it's most uptodate)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have in fact been researching this since yesterday. The vanilla Android is for 7x00A devices, and should work on Diamond without too much fuss. I'm not a Linux developer though, so I'll need some help with that part. (though I am a developer)
The Kaiser boot kit does not work. Once it's done loading the device freezes entirely. Kaiser uses 7200 though, not 7201A, and for all I know it might actually be (partly somewhat) running, but with no frame buffer.
agreed with the freezing part.
From Haret:
WinCE reports memory size 134217728 (phys=118571008 store=115261440)
Where did the rest 64 MByte go?
Ok who's seriously interested in getting this to work?
Whats the progress so far? Lets try to get something packaged and up for diamond.
me
I am definately going to spend some time trying to gets this to work when I get my Diamond.
teddyen66 said:
I am definately going to spend some time trying to gets this to work when I get my Diamond.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I haven't been able to compile the kernel, but it sounds like you'll be able to. Give it a shot and I'll test it.
I'll test it too.
k, can you also try the vogue builds? http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DiamondResearch
the shared memory looks similar to the on on kaiser. So it will probably be easy to make communication with the phone work as soon as it works on kaiser. Of course you need to be able to boot first
Hi guys,
I've been trying to get Android running on my Diamond for a few days to no avail.
I've tried the Kaiser set of files and Vogue set of files. The furthest I've got is to make it display the 'Go Go Go...' message and then it hangs.
Has anyone actually got Android to run on a Diamond before?
Thanks.
Vogue does not work, but might be because of HaRET, don't know.
7201A is different from 7200. I would not expect it to work. However, the vanilla kernel is for Diamond type chips, so if anyone could compile a vanilla kernel it's worth testing. HaRET might need a few modifications though.
Very interesting!
This Android thing, getting it to run, what would the expectations be? Functionality, speed?
Just very curious, having once installed some linux-thingy on my magician.
I don't have a Diamond to test on, but I suspect the dev team for the Advantage could be of help. The build they have is running ok on Advantage, the touchscreen driver even works. No phone yet (last I checked). Maybe it will also run on Diamond?
nopes advantage is a different platform
I believe it'll just be a matter of time before we get a fully functioning Android build for the HTC Diamond because I can foresee it to be a very popular platform for the Android.
If there's any modifications to the default.txt boot file that would potentially make this work I'll be happy to try it out and let you guys know the results.
happyguy82 said:
I believe it'll just be a matter of time before we get a fully functioning Android build for the HTC Diamond because I can foresee it to be a very popular platform for the Android.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hope that too . I can not wait to run Android on my Diamond.
I guess it'd be a matter of setting up a cross compile (toolchains - chroot, binutils, gcc, glibc) environment for the ARM, compiling the kernel with the correct drivers and bootstrapping for the ARM.
Am I right? Or did I miss something?
Would this link be of any help ?
http://nemustech.blogspot.com/2007/12/android-porting-to-real-target-hw.html
I would like to get involved if someone is already working on it
Darn that's running smooth ...
... hope we can get some linux running on this hardware.
adwinp said:
I guess it'd be a matter of setting up a cross compile (toolchains - chroot, binutils, gcc, glibc) environment for the ARM, compiling the kernel with the correct drivers and bootstrapping for the ARM.
Am I right? Or did I miss something?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, kinda. Where do you intend to get "correct drivers" for Diamond
Its not that easy, since HTC doesnt provide 'em
Hi, is anywhere guide for developing.. i want dev too but i dont know how
What you want to develop? Kernel? System? Both?
on which host (Win/Linux/Mac)?
i want to dev too
i want do dev both kernel and system on windows ... so any advices? and thank you in advance
(EX/OR)
i want to develop both but maybe ony system. because when i wil dev kernel, i will can brake my phone
and im on win exactly win7. but on Notebook i have linux.. so its Win or Lin
And im think it will be better with guide.. Later can be more developers and it is better because updates release frequently
It is possible to put together a build using windows, but for serious development work you will need a Linux system for compiling, building from an already developed base only requires a good text editor, ( not notepad), and 7zip really.
so i need only good text editor? and source data.. its all?
and what sam knowledge of C/+/++/# Java.. nothing?
C for kernel
java for system
linux for both
Develop on windows is quite painful and on mac there are some problem with libs.
The only good system for fast develop is linux. Use a virtual system and setup a simple virtual machine with linux.
Then follow the fresh froyo thread to compile the first time (a lot of time).
Hi Michga,
have you development knowledge in any environment?
Are you for the first time approaching software developing?
Obviously you need programming language knowledge if you want to develop software (every kind of software: applications, utilities, system tools, kernel and so on)
moreafter, if you mind developing operating system's module (kernel, drivers and so on) you need deep understanding of general operating systems mechanisms in addition to specific knowledge about the OS you are developing for.
If this is your first step in software developing, I can suggest you try little application first, then step to system programming...
As a software is made up of simple text, as Zenity said, what you need is AT LEAST a good text editor and this is correct if you plan to write or modify simple pieces of software but if you mind to develop something more, a software developing environment maybe a better choice.
More, have a look at http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html where you can find the SDK toolkit for Android.
Sorry not being more helpful: I'm a software developer but don't develop for Android yet... (Time... Time... Time... )
See you
thanks for answers.. i think it is all i need..thanks
Ok, so...
At first I found a ReactOS offical ARM port.
It is here(delete spaces, forum still prevents me from inserting any link): htt p:/ /ww w. rea cto s.or g/wik i/ARM_ Port
At second I don't understand it at all so if anyone are good in this type of thing, tell us is it possible to have it working UNDER HARET?
And finaly at third If yes, is it will be possible to run any applications excluding a orginals one?
And that's all
P.S. There is already a topic here(ht tp:/ /foru m.xd a-deve lopers.co m/sho wthre ad.php?t =791800 ) but it is quite old and not for our device.
Ew, why would you want React on your phone...?
i'd say ehm.. for the heck of it?
don't really think there is a point tho in rOS, both windows that comes natively and android have a massive userbase and for a 'full OS' there is already someone building linux version of Ubuntu.
beside that, the React OS makes use of 'windows' binaries (from what i read on their website.) which are in x86 format as far as i believe, running them on an ARM processor isn't likely to work.
if i'm incorrect please correct me
Not really, all the binaries were written by ReactOS Team and they are open source... So in practise we can compile it and have it running on ARM processor.
And why? Simply. If all the dll's and files can run exe files we should be able to run normal applications like firefox, flash, etc. Maybe not at maxiumum speed(because of alpha build of ReactOS) but still it can be quite useful.
I didn't managed to build it. As far as I read it is imposible beacause of compiler which doesn't compile it correctly, or at all.
If anyone have any ideas how to do it tell us...
P.S. The full source of ReactOS + additional appliactions included is avaible at ReactOS main page.
Well ReactOS to my knowledge doesn't run that well on x86 machines, so I doubt our tired old phones will run it very well...
Rhodbuntu isn't good enough...? I'd say that's your best hope - in theory it will run FF & flash...
ReactOS of course is not the faster system ever but it it a only(actualy) operation system that is in open source and have a fully rewritten binaries, etc.
And BTW you still can't have a flash and Java(SE) running on armel(rhodbuntu)
mafiu95 said:
ReactOS of course is not the faster system ever but it it a only(actualy) operation system that is in open source and have a fully rewritten binaries, etc.
And BTW you still can't have a flash and Java(SE) running on armel(rhodbuntu)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah didn't realize. What makes you think it'll work on React? lol
Theres a possibility. But as I test the recent version out, there are problems with it, so I dont think its a good idea to port. There are issues from clicking to how things are displayed to windows sticking & not listening to me when I click close or minimize/maximize.
Greetings all,
I would like to know something that seems to be so simple it hasn't been documented here anywhere.
My question is: How do I build the source provided by Google for my Desire HD?
Yes, there are tutorials, don't point me to them. They either provide you with the AOKP way or the CM way.
I want to build my stuff from scratch.
Is there a generator that will create the necessary file structures for me (in the devices folder)?
Is there a complete list that my rom needs to include in order to make it run on my device (preferably a list of folders I need)?
I know about the vendor files, these are created by a third party. How do I know what vendor files I need to create? How do I know how to name them?
Don't get me wrong, I've used C, C++ and C# for YEARS (I think about 8 now) and I know how to code. I just don't know how to compile android!
It doesn't seem that hard though, I've seen threads where people provide ROMs for the Desire HD without even having the device!
Also, how would I test this and debug it? I don't think it's safe to just flash my rom once I get it compiled to my actual device and possibly brick it.. Can I use an emulator?
I hope you will read this post before answering something alike "Plenty tutorials" or "This can be found everywhere", because it can not. I can only find AOKP or CM ways, I want neither.
Greetings Ultimate-Tester
The only time I know of that this has been achieved for this device is aospX, an ICS ROM on the Inspire 4G forums. It is much harder than you would think. Google does not support this hardware, HTC does. So there was never AOSP source for this device.
Yes, I can imagine how hard it is. As I said I have programming experience, it's just that I don't have it with Android ROMS.
I have built mainly for Windows, also on Ring0 level (which is the lowest level you can get) so I think making drivers is a task I can handle. I am definitely not underestimating it.
Could anyone give me an answer to this line:
Code:
Is there a generator that will create the necessary file structures for me (in the devices folder)?
Is there a complete list that my rom needs to include in order to make it run on my device (preferably a list of folders I need)?
I am very interested in how other people knew what folders to create and what files to put in them. How would the Google Source (envsetup) know which device files to use and what not? Again, can I generate the file structure somehow?
Greetings,,
My suggestion is to use device trees from AOSP-based ROMs that already exist for this device. For example, look in the cfX manifest.xml for Ace-specific stuff (kernel, device, etc.). I personally haven't seriously tried this before, so that's all I can offer.
Okidoki, will do. Then for the last item: Testing.
What will be a safe way to test out my brew?
What will actually happen if I flash a ROM with missing files? I hope there's an underlying catcher that will send something I can see in logcat and fix it that way.. Is this the case, or will I immediately brick my phone once I do something wrong? Do I need to make sure something is 100% there in order to reach my recovery again?
Greetz,,
I'm nor aware of any safety nets. If you're developing, you probably have to be willing to take the risks.
With the release of Xiaomi's Windows 10 rom, is there a possibility that this could be ported over to phones such as the LG G3 with the same chipsets, chips and ram??
Would definitely breath new life into the device and something i would be willing to donate for.
It would definitely be a possibility, but devs would have to be willing to put a lot of time and work into learning the structure of the new os and adapting it to the dissimilar hardware between the g3 and the mi4
I was guessing the same thing but the first emerging problem is the following (please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm here to learn):
when you extract this specific rom, you find out about 20 partitions (unlike other lumias)..and it's almost the same number of partitions that an android rom for xiaomi has.
So my guessing is: xiaomi's bootloader hasn't changed, it's the same for windows 10 mobile and for android. They build a rom (probably working on the NT kernel of windows) suitable for this specific device. Of course lg's devices manage the memory with a different partition scheme..so, if I haven't written wrong things (otherwise correct me), to make a port is necessary to have an in dept knowledge of window's kernel (a not so simple task since it's closed source) in order to change *at least* the partition scheme and to make it suitable with lg's bootloader. People who can manage with this task, as far as I know, are not too much..